Requesting nonhandicapped rooms?

lenshanem

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I saw on another thread that soemne ahd requested not to get a handicapped studio, but it the end they ended up with one cause they checked in so late on a Sunday night/. Curious...I've never thought to even request that. He mentione dit had no tub. I woudl be very disapponted if I got that room as I woudl want the tub to bathe the kids. Anyone with thsi past experience?
 
No requests are guaranteed. If a resort is filled and the HC rooms are not all needed for challenged guests, someone will be assigned to the room.

It's fine to make the request, but it can't always be honored.

There are only a few HC rooms at each resort, but they are counted in the room totals and are available for all guests.

Good Luck!
 
I would think it would be helpful to explain why you would need a no-handicap room due to your kids Shan. Since I understand they work real hard to satsify first request it then might come down to Non-Smoking versus Non-Hadicapped like it did for the OP on the thread you referenced.

WebmasterDoc, are there HC 1BR units as well or is this just a Studios issue?

Thanks
jaysue
 

There are handicapped rooms of all types, I recently saw a post where someone got a handicapped GV and they did not need it.

In the studio, the HC room has no tub, just a roll in shower. It's been reported that water ends up all over the bathroom floor. That's the main reason I would not want it. In the 1 bedroom and higher, the shower is roll in, you still have the water on floor issues, but you still have the jacuzzi tub for the kids. I also heard there are differences in the bathroom & kitchen sinks, they are open underneath to fit a wheelchair, less storage space.
 
Jaysue, I think all HA 1BR have the whirlpool tub as well as a shower. The lack of a tub would only be an issue in a studio.
 
Thanks BCV23, you read my mind - that is what I was thinking that it was only an issue within the studios layout

Thanks
jaysue
 
Originally posted by DebbieB
There are handicapped rooms of all types, I recently saw a post where someone got a handicapped GV and they did not need it.

I was told by MS that there are no dedicated 2 bedroom units at OKW that are HC. All HC rooms are either studio/1-bedroom/2-bedroom lockoffs or GVs... Just an interesting bit of trivia.
 
No 2br "HC" dedicated at VWL either -- just the non-HC sort. It has been my one assurance as I book vacations that we won't get one -- we ALWAYS opt for the nice big 2 br dedicateds!

As for why you wouldn't want a HC with kids... think low. THink stove knobs, door knobs, locks, light switches, water knobs, all low, all within the reach of someone in a wheelchair. Or anyone else only a few feet tall... a very curious hmm what does this do sort of little person...

I have 3 of those very little people and while I diligently watch them, it's just too great a liability. I even find BWV a bit daunitng and have yet to stay there (it's our home, even!) because all the door handles / switches in all the rooms are low and there is no such thing as a 2 br dedicated -- they all have that 2nd exit door with lock well within reach of my kids. Mickey, pools, all that is too tempting for them. No thanks -- gimme that 2br dedicated.

I think the most interesting post re: HC rooms are those from someone technically handicapped. SOme complain that the beds are too low -- they can't get in/out of them. Some complain of the ultra-slick shower floors (wheelchairs represent only a portion of what is considered "HC"). Others have complained of lack of storage area, too. Makes you wonder if anyone is truly satisfied with them.

Cindy
 
It was me with the handicapped room (I'm a "she", BTW :)) at BCV. One of the reasons I didn't want a h/c room was because there was no tub for my 3 year old DD. That turned out not to be a problem at all because she swam all the time and never even had enough time for a bath. *blush* We usually allowed her to change out of her swimsuit without a shower anyway.

FWIW, the floor at BCV in the bathroom was not slippery at all. My DH even commented on how non-slippery it was compared to our year old tile floor at home. Our tile was prettier, but much slippier too :).
 
I read these discussions and wonder how they be in future years. As the DVC population ages, will the complaints be about NOT being able to get a HC room?
 
Originally posted by CK1
I think the most interesting post re: HC rooms are those from someone technically handicapped. Cindy

I am really curious as to how you define "technically handicapped."
 
My kids could reach the knobs on the non-handicapped stove at home at 18 months. We took the knobs off. My son could also open every door in the house by the same age, flip ever light switch, and pull a chair over to climb onto the counter and from there to the top of the fridge. I'm not sure that a handicapped room would be any more dangerous (at least to my little monkey) than a non-handicapped room. (My daughter is a little less physically ambitious. She was three before she could open every door in the house, but she could do every light switch before two).

The lack of a tub would be a problem, but if the kids swim, I probably could skip bathing them for a week as well.

The wet floor has been reported by some, others have said they didn't have a problem with it.

I guess I fail to see what the big deal is.
 
Originally posted by crisi
I guess I fail to see what the big deal is.

I really wish I had taken pictures or my BWV studio! The room itself is smaller for the bigger bathroom, so you have less "living" space. The bathroom is huge, but there is no storage. Zero. There is a tiny shelf around the sink and the little ledges on the sink itself and the top of the toilet (ick). There is no vanity because a wheelchair needs access under the sink and around the bath. I don't carry much with me since I don't wear make-up, but there was barely enough room for our deodorant, 3 toothbrushes, 2 tubes of toothpaste and one glass. I ended up putting things like my zip-lock of hair accessories on the floor. My hanging toiletries bag remained packed. If you're the type to bring your own hair dryer, curling iron, make-up, enough toiletries for 4 adults, etc you would be sunk.

Wait! I found a pictures on the DIS!

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There is also less storage around the wet bar area for the same reason above. The ledge that normally holds the microwave was gone and the microwave was on the bottom counter. We ran out of room fast there too, but it was less of a problem than the bathroom.

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Now, I want to say that I love it that Disney and DVC provide (by law) rooms that can accommodate disabled guests. I used to work for the Wisconsin Department of Vocational Rehabilitation and it was a real eye-opening experience for me. Any and all accommodations that can be done to help those with disabilities is fine with me since it makes WDW a great vacation destination to everybody and not just the able :). However ... I don't have to like being in a room that is inconvenient for me.
 
What I don't understand is why the DVC cannot guarantee smoking/non-smoking and HC/regular rooms... I can appreciate the need for HC rooms. I agree with Robinb.. It is great to have these for people who need or want them. However other hotel chains show you the inventory of these special rooms and allow you to book what you want. You can use their websites and they show ADA rooms and/or Smoking rooms as a choice when you book. If the DVC did this the member could be told at the time of the reservation that all we have available on such and such day is a HC room or a smoking room or whatever and then you could make the choice as to whether it was a problem or not and whether or not you would accept it or change your vacation plans.
 
Because of DVC planned capacity. DVC needs to be booked pretty full all the time. They sold enough points to keep the rooms pretty full all the time. DVC cannot have everyone use their points and have rooms sit empty.

If we want this sort of flexibility, it comes at a cost - more rooms that sit empty (or need to be rented via CRO) so that the rooms that smokers require are available, while non smoking rooms can sit empty. So that non-smoking rooms are available while smoking rooms sit empty, etc.

In some ways this is the disadvantage of DVC over a traditional timeshare. If DVC were a traditional timeshare you would know that you got room 4234 at BWV every year the second week in November and it was non-smoking, non-handicapped 1 BR with a view of the quiet pool. But the advantage is that you don't need to go the second week in November, can book a 2 BR over at VWL and book a smoking room for your mother in law if you need to and know that if anything happened and someone in your family became wheelchair bound, a handicapped room would be available.
 
Originally posted by sgtdisney
I was told by MS that there are no dedicated 2 bedroom units at OKW that are HC. All HC rooms are either studio/1-bedroom/2-bedroom lockoffs or GVs... Just an interesting bit of trivia.
i just wanted to mention that I emailed MS about the number of wheelchair accessible rooms at OKW a few years ago (because some people were posting that ALL the first floor rooms were wheelchair accessible, which is not true). At OKW, there are 19 one bedrooms and 19 studios, which can be combined to make 19 two bedrooms. I don't remember the number of GVs, but it was either one or 2.

Because there are so many types/levels of disabilities, the only way to get an accessible room that is really accessible is to build it for that person's abilities. The perfect room for one person might mean having grab bars on the right at a fairly low height, but for someone else, the other side might be better. For someone using a wheelchair who is very self-sufficient, a low bed at the height of their wheelchair seat might be ideal. For someone else, a higher bed might be better if they need someone to assist them.
I'm just happy to find at least a minimal level of accessiblity. At other places, we've been told a room is accesible and then find several steps to get in and a bathroom that is too small for a wheelchair to fit in the doorway.
 
Hi,

This is interesting!!! I need a h/c room @ hotels. I have cerebral palsy & use a wheelchair to get around. I was told during my open house that 20% of all Disney resorts are HC. Which I find wonderful. At other places (non-disney) if we ask for an HC room it not even close to being workable or its not one @ all. I have been very happy with Disney accommendations!!! That's partly the reason for becoming members of DVC. Just my thoughts! PS: the beds can be low in some places.

Allison
 
What bothers me the most is that DVC, at least in our case, assigned us a HC room without telling us. Then they told us, when we called a few minutes after getting to our room, that it would cost us $25 to move. I certainly hope they've discontinued this practice of assigning without saying anything. We've gotten HC rooms twice before, at POR and ASMu. Both times we were asked politely at check-in if a HC room would be acceptable. Both times we agreed and were relatively happy. I certainly hope DVC is at least telling people at check-in if they've been assigned a HC room now.
And robinb, I certainly agree with you about the problems, especially lack of counter space in the Bathroom. By the end of the week with our HC DVC studio, we were really cursing our not paying the $25, even though we didn't agree we should have to. Has anyone gotten a HC room lately without being told?
 
Originally posted by JudithM
I am really curious as to how you define "technically handicapped."

Hope I'm not putting words into Cindy's mouth, but the way I read that paragraph of her post is that there are interesting posts from people who have disabilities that do not require them to use a wheelchair for whom the accessible features of these rooms creates more of a hinderance than a help (such as someone with a back injury that allows them to walk but makes getting in and out of a lower bed VERY difficult). I don't think she meant offense or to imply that anyone who doesn't use a wheelchair is only handicapped by some "technicality" or anything like that.

As an architect, I deal with accessibility issues all the time. In fact, some of the best "training" I've had was when in school we did an exercise that attempted to simulate a number of possibile disabilities that would need to be accommodated. We got to go around campus in wheelchairs, on crutches, simulate varying degrees of visual impairment, difficulty in grasping etc. I think now we refer to accessible design as either "universally accessible" or "barrier free" which implies that good design works for EVERYONE, not JUST someone who has a particular disability or for people who don't have a disability at all. Things like the type of door handles that you find on hotel rooms would fall under that category because they are comfortable for everyone to use, including someone who has a disablity that makes it difficult for them to grasp and turn regular doorknobs.

In response to whether "HC" rooms work for "anybody," yes, they are primarily designed for people in wheelchairs. The thing about wheelchairs is that comfortable height for furniture and bathroom fixtures and toilet accessories is pretty different for someone who is in a wheelchair than for someone who isn't, so there isn't really anything that can be "universal" about it. I think everyone should have to spend a half hour getting around in a wheelchair sometime if for no other reason than to have some kind of an inkling about the barriers created by things that we never even notice.

I know these rooms can be a pain for people who have little kids as it brings things that are dangerous within reach of little hands. For people without little kids who don't have the childproofing problem or the "lack of place to bathe the kids" problem, my guess is that any inconvenience you might have by having a roll in shower or lack of vanity space to store your stuff is nothing compared to the inconveniences that people in wheelchairs face every day, dozens of times a day. I'd rather DVC have too many wheelchair accessible rooms and "inconvenience" someone who doesn't need it than not have enough and basically make it impossible for someone in a wheelchair to stay there.

Still, it seems that if they can make a 2 bedroom with 2 queens at BCV an actual reservation type instead of a request, you'd think they'd be able to make an accessible room a reservation type as well. I'm sure they'd be the last to book up unless someone specifically asked for one, but I would take one if it meant getting a last minute reservation at BWV rather than having to go to OKW. We have stayed in an accessible room on occasion (we always request king rooms and at many resorts, rooms with king sized beds are more likely to be accessible because they have more clear floor space than rooms with two beds in them) and it honestly was never a big deal.

Lisa
 

















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