Rejected Offers Thread

[CourtneyAshley]

I also think there are a lot of hybrid owners out there - we have 1470 points and 870 are either direct or grandfathered resale contracts. Our 2 most recent resale purchases have been BLT because they were such a discount over direct (like 275$ vs 110$). Our most recent direct purchase was VGC because the guide had the right points and would be our UY and the price delta is much smaller. Buy some direct for whatever reason and then also get more points with resale.

I defiantly see this too. I bought AKL Resale because it was $120 difference per point. I would have been more willing to buy direct if it were $40-$50 difference instead. In time i might look at direct and yes VGC i would 100% buy direct but without some great incentives all but like VGC and PVB are quite a difference in price per point.

 

[CourtneyAshley]

I also think there are a lot of hybrid owners out there - we have 1470 points and 870 are either direct or grandfathered resale contracts. Our 2 most recent resale purchases have been BLT because they were such a discount over direct (like 275$ vs 110$). Our most recent direct purchase was VGC because the guide had the right points and would be our UY and the price delta is much smaller. Buy some direct for whatever reason and then also get more points with resale.

I wish I was old enough to have been established enough to have grandfathered in contract or contracts from when the prices were not as absurd as they are now (I am 30 so when DVC was more affordable I was still in high school/college.

 

[Jack Kerouac]

Just my opinion, based on my specific experience. This is not a judgment or directed at anyone specific.

As someone who has serious ADHD in their family and has passed it down to his kids, I don’t believe that it’s a superpower.

My sister just visited with my 8yr old nephew and he has such a bad version of ADHD that it made my kids (who also have ADHD!) not want to spend as much time with him or give him some distance.

I had a conversation with my sister about understanding the difficulties in giving your kids medicine everyday (especially if they don’t like taking it) but reminded her how much extra stress/guilt/social anxiety/always feeling that you are underachieving your potential/etc that she and I lived through and continue to process because we didn’t have the medication and tools we needed as kids because of lack of science and societal shame (“just tough it out/concentrate more/work harder/stop talking and just chill out”).

I used the analogy of Kanye West off his meds and on his meds.

She talked with her son and they came up with a solution of how she will put his medicine in marshmallows and that he would then agree to take it!

What a difference it made! He still had his sparkling personality and off the charts intellect, but his brain wasn’t constantly misfiring with over or under stimulation and the entire family had a much better second half of the trip.

I absolutely can empathize with this!

When he has his meds, it's better (and I mean better, not good, as we are still searching for that magical dose that makes things click). He finished up third grade and was getting detentions without fully understanding why. His ADHD wrecked the possibility of him going to a private school in his preschool years despite our desperate attempts to find out what he was experiencing. The medication is still a huge stressor on the family since its a controlled medication so we can't really get the refill before we are already out of it and that's if the pharmacy even has it in stock (there have been a lot of shortages since COVID).

As his dad, I just hope somehow his ADHD comes to be a positive for him some way. Any way. He's already asking why he has to have it.

 

[Jack Kerouac]

I wish I was old enough to have been established enough to have grandfathered in contract or contracts from when the prices were not as absurd as they are now (I am 30 so when DVC was more affordable I was still in high school/college.

Why didn't you buy then? You probably had nice subsidized/free housing via your parents, free food, etc.

Then again, I was in HS back in the very early aughts and I should have bought AMZN and NVDA on the cheap instead of video games.

 

[CourtneyAshley]

Why didn't you buy then? You probably had nice subsidized/free housing via your parents, free food, etc.

Then again, I was in HS back in the very early aughts and I should have bought AMZN and NVDA on the cheap instead of video games.

I was living on my own away at college and making $7.25 an hour lol My paychecks were about $450 every 2 weeks after tax. So I had almost no spending money. Luckily scholarships covered the majority of my tuition but i still had to pay housing and food. I also had no car so i had to walk to class and to work so everything had to be close. I did not get a car until i graduated college and was working as a server where i could afford the carnote and insurance (where i live insurance is easily $300+ a month for a younger driver even 10 years ago) I had no help from my family except that after college i moved back in for 2 years then rented with a friend for a year so that i could afford my house which was more important than a DVC contract. So i bought my house at 25. It took me over a year after college to find a job with my degree too otherwise i probably would have been out of the home sooner. I also had to pay for my own wedding (budgeted as best as i could while still doing the catholic wedding i was being forced to have by my inlaws)

 

[VGCgroupie]

My oldest has ADHD and it’s often a struggle and a strain. But I remember watching The Amazing Race and Penn Holderness won a stage solely because of his ADHD (his words). So I do my best to tell my oldest, ADHD can be a superpower if he learns to use it the right way and it’s not necessarily as bad as he thinks (his past history through third grade is a lot rockier than I could have handled at his age; the private school was a disaster and now the second public school seems, if not more equipped, at least more patient).

Makes everyday tasks much harder especially if you choose to not be medicated. But when I go into hyper focusing mode it can be very beneficial.

 

[Jack Kerouac]

I was living on my own away at college and making $7.25 an hour lol My paychecks were about $450 every 2 weeks after tax. So I had almost no spending money. Luckily scholarships covered the majority of my tuition but i still had to pay housing and food. I also had no car so i had to walk to class and to work so everything had to be close. I did not get a car until i graduated college and was working as a server where i could afford the carnote and insurance (where i live insurance is easily $300+ a month for a younger driver even 10 years ago) I had no help from my family except that after college i moved back in for 2 years then rented with a friend for a year so that i could afford my house which was more important than a DVC contract. So i bought my house at 25. It took me over a year after college to find a job with my degree too otherwise i probably would have been out of the home sooner. I also had to pay for my own wedding (budgeted as best as i could while still doing the catholic wedding i was being forced to have by my inlaws)

I get it. And sorry, I was mainly being sarcastic since I was foolish with money when I was younger. Now, as an adult, I buy DVC points like an addict.

 

[Jack Kerouac]

Makes everyday tasks much harder especially if you choose to not be medicated. But when I go into hyper focusing mode it can be very beneficial.

There are a lot of difficult days, which is one reason I'm always appreciative to WDW for DAS. It's such a huge help for our trips and for those around us in line.

But we do have times where we can't find something and our oldest can tell us where it is immediately because of his ability to hyper-focus on things.

 

[AstroBlasters]

I absolutely can empathize with this!

When he has his meds, it's better (and I mean better, not good, as we are still searching for that magical dose that makes things click). He finished up third grade and was getting detentions without fully understanding why. His ADHD wrecked the possibility of him going to a private school in his preschool years despite our desperate attempts to find out what he was experiencing. The medication is still a huge stressor on the family since its a controlled medication so we can't really get the refill before we are already out of it and that's if the pharmacy even has it in stock (there have been a lot of shortages since COVID).

As his dad, I just hope somehow his ADHD comes to be a positive for him some way. Any way. He's already asking why he has to have it.

I think the fact that you are a parent who cares and is doing their best is the most any kiddo could ask for.

You are not alone and your kid is not “broken”. Our particular brains just weren’t wired for our current society and so we do the best we can with what we have available. It’s unfortunate that people who do not need the medicine choose to abuse it…. but that is not unique to us.

It is helpful if we get lucky and the hyper-focus coincides with a skill set that is able to be monetized.

It is less helpful when it leads us to hyper focus on getting dopamine hits from buying things we want but don’t need….like DVC contracts .

 

[CourtneyAshley]

I get it. And sorry, I was mainly being sarcastic since I was foolish with money when I was younger. Now, as an adult, I buy DVC points like an addict.

Its no biggie, I know some kids do really have it made while in college and high school. One of my roommates in college for example had her parents paying for EVERYTHING brand new car, insurance, latest gadgets, and she did not work because everything was handed to her. If she was working imagine what she could have afforded lol

 

[VGCgroupie]

It is less helpful when it leads us to hyper focus on getting dopamine hits from buying things we want but don’t need….like DVC contracts .

ouch. hahaha joking. This is why even though we are equals I still get "permission" to buy expensive things.

 

[CourtneyAshley]

I get it. And sorry, I was mainly being sarcastic since I was foolish with money when I was younger. Now, as an adult, I buy DVC points like an addict.

My manager when I was working in high school used to tease me that she was going to give her money to me to manage because of the way i squirrelled money away. My family did not have the money to help me up in the way some families do but my mom taught me early on about sales and coupons and when i tell you i can walk away with $200 in groceries for $100 some weeks I mean it. My husband used to tease me because on saturdays i go shopping at Dollar General and i would come home with the backseat full for maybe $30.

 

[Jack Kerouac]

I think the fact that you are a parent who cares and is doing their best is the most any kiddo could ask for.

You are not alone and your kid is not “broken”. Our particular brains just weren’t wired for our current society and so we do the best we can with what we have available. It’s unfortunate that people who do not need the medicine choose to abuse it…. but that is not unique to us.

It is helpful if we get lucky and the hyper-focus coincides with a skill set that is able to be monetized.

It is less helpful when it leads us to hyper focus on getting dopamine hits from buying things we want but don’t need….like DVC contracts .

I laugh because my dad has ADHD and he bought a VB contract at an SSR bus stop because he was bored.

 

[CourtneyAshley]

ouch. hahaha joking. This is why even though we are equals I still get "permission" to buy expensive things.

At least its only expensive things my husband for some reason thinks he needs to ask for permission for EVERYTHING. The last time he did my response was "do you work?, Are you an adult?, Will this purchase affect us paying our bills?. If the answers are yes, yes, and no dont ask permission"

 

[AstroBlasters]

ouch. hahaha joking. This is why even though we are equals I still get "permission" to buy expensive things.

Absolutely! And we are a sole income household, so my wife feels like she shouldn’t really “put her foot down” unless it’s important…. even though I have told her that everything is “our money and not my money” and she should always just give me candid feedback on anything.

But… after nearly 1700 points…. I have received the stern “I am not signing another contract… until after our next Walt Disney World trip….”

 

[atthebeachclub]

I think the fact that you are a parent who cares and is doing their best is the most any kiddo could ask for.

You are not alone and your kid is not “broken”. Our particular brains just weren’t wired for our current society and so we do the best we can with what we have available. It’s unfortunate that people who do not need the medicine choose to abuse it…. but that is not unique to us.

It is helpful if we get lucky and the hyper-focus coincides with a skill set that is able to be monetized.

It is less helpful when it leads us to hyper focus on getting dopamine hits from buying things we want but don’t need….like DVC contracts .

I empathize with you all…and now I am starting to worry maybe I have ADHD too. lol. Honestly has been something I have wondered for a long time but I am over forty and likely unwilling to do anything about it now other than use my normal somewhat ineffective coping mechanisms…

 

[VGCgroupie]

I empathize with you all…and now I am starting to worry maybe I have ADHD too. lol. Honestly has been something I have wondered for a long time but I am over forty and likely unwilling to do anything about it now other than use my normal somewhat ineffective coping mechanisms…

Getting diagnosed as an adult is surreal. There is a stigma around getting help for it though which makes things difficult. I have chosen to go w/o meds so the diagnoses is really only helpful in that I can feel less crappy about myself and some of my huge short comings.

 

[atthebeachclub]

Getting diagnosed as an adult is surreal. There is a stigma around getting help for it though which makes things difficult. I have chosen to go w/o meds so the diagnoses is really only helpful in that I can feel less crappy about myself and some of my huge short comings.

Oh god. I don’t think I would want to deal with it. I would stay unmedicated too because I think that would be best for me personally and possibly professionally. So getting an official diagnosis probably has few benefits for me…I just know I have some random talents and some major shortcomings I try to work around.

 

[Kailunkat]

For PVB? I haven’t been following but I thought it got down to a dozen or so (in May?) and then has been on an upward trend since then, as sellers are looking to get nearly $200/pt.

This listings that are priced this high are the ones that are NOT selling.

I put in 2 bids this week on PVB contracts (both were rejected) at $170. One is still available. The other sold for $178. So it seems the market is actually in the $175-$180 range based on the sales. Ultimately (just like in the housing market) the listing price means nothing - it’s totally arbitrary, the sold price is what matters.

Re: ADHD - pretty sure my 8yo has it but my DH is so against getting her tested or having meds because of the stigma of it. She’s an incredibly smart kid so she is able to compensate but I can’t help but think of how much easier and less stressful life would be if we could agree to address it more directly.

 

[Jack Kerouac]

Absolutely! And we are a sole income household, so my wife feels like she shouldn’t really “put her foot down” unless it’s important…. even though I have told her that everything is “our money and not my money” and she should always just give me candid feedback on anything.

But… after nearly 1700 points…. I have received the stern “I am not signing another contract… until after our next Walt Disney World trip….”

There's an early Curb Your Enthusiasm where Larry will only thank a husband but not the wife for dinner since he works and she doesn't. It's pretty funny. My wife works but I make about 20x what she does. But her income pays for Disney, so we call it even.