Ready to "Thaw Out"

Not a Frozen fan, but I don't mind the topiaries at the flower show or the merchandise, I don't even mind adding it to the holiday stuff. What I think is too far, or maybe poor taste, is shoving the ride in Norway. Add a meet and greet there like other princesses have, but devoting a princess ride to any movie in WS isn't fitting with the purpose of that section. Does WS need another ride? Yep. They should have kept Maelstrom or made it some sort of viking raid thrill ride and then added a global Soarin ride not this. Making it a ride for a make believe place because it is so loosely based on a Norwegian story that it would fall off it was a pair of pants is just poor planning.

By all means, add a Frozen ride to the World (A thrill ride in sleds dangling over mountains in HS would be great, as would a gentler ride in MK), there are enough Elsa costumes walking around that you could get alcohol poisoning playing a drinking game every time you saw one, but stick it elsewhere. They didn't turn Chefs into BOG so I fail to see the logic here. The rush to have one is what boggles my mind as it took 22 years to get a Little Mermaid ride and it was better scripted, better honored by Hollywood and has proven staying power since 25 years later it still resonates. In 2-5 years will frozen still be a draw for new generations or even its current fans who are largely part of the cell phone over it in ten seconds crowd?

On my April 2014 visit Frozen was lacking in the parks in every way and people were demanding more. The movie was then only a few months old. So the sudden onslaught is understandable as is the fan demand because it is new, not quite a year old. But to make permanent changes so soon when they are typically slow to get rid of failing attractions is a mistake. See if Elsa is still everywhere next year, then commit to a ride.
 
I agree. When the change was announced, it was interesting to hear many people say, "I had not bothered riding Maelstrom in years but how dare they replace it with Frozen!". Maybe that is why they made the change? I liked Maelstrom. It was a fun, quirky ride but I was very meh about it being replaced.

Finally, someone said it. If people really felt the way they did about Maelstrom before they announced changing it, they wouldn't be changing it. And there would be "I Braved The MAELSTROM!" T-Shirts next to all the Frozen merch in Norway. And I wouldn't have been able to walk on it twice in a row when I went in July.
 
I'm actually really excited about all of the Frozen stuff for our upcoming trip. DS2 saw snow outside this morning and said, "OOOOH SNOOOOW! Maybe it was Olaf!... we should Bee-old Hee-yum! (build him)" It was precious. I can't wait to see the look on his face when he sees all of the Frozen related activities.
 
I'm actually really excited about all of the Frozen stuff for our upcoming trip. DS2 saw snow outside this morning and said, "OOOOH SNOOOOW! Maybe it was Olaf!... we should Bee-old Hee-yum! (build him)" It was precious. I can't wait to see the look on his face when he sees all of the Frozen related activities.

Ooh! Fun! Are you going soon? I recommend the Frozen HS package :-) it's a little costly, but it sounds like your son will really appreciate it :)
 

During the summer I was as Anti-Frozen as anyone on here due to the fact the pre-show ruined RD at DHS. They made it a complete running of the bulls again by forcing everyone to watch that stupid morning show. Then I had a really bad day at DHS because rain cancelled Fantasmic! but not the Frozen Fireworks. So at 8pm the entire park was shut down for firework safety. Literally nothing a person under '40 could do in the entire park. I was so mad I took pics of me holding my cardboard Olaf hand fan they handed out to everyone entering the park over the stove that night.

Then I got home and fast forward 3 months and my kid comes home from school one day and is suddenly in love with Frozen. Insists on watching every weekend, sings the songs daily, and loves everything about it. Now that it won't ruin my DHS days, I have gone from hating Frozen to loving the joy it brings my kid.

That being said, Frozen can not be compared to anything Disney (Not Pixar) has produced in 20 years. Merida, Pocahontas, Rapunzel, Lilo & Stitch, etc. all combined don't equal the Frozen craze. This is the movie that resonates with this generation of kids. Parents of toddlers to tweens, of either gender, will flock to do Frozen related things in the park, so why shouldn't Disney capitalize on that? Expect at least 2-3 more Frozen related rides/attractions to be announced in the next year. And Disney should do it. They are a company trying to make a profit, Frozen does that.
 
Unfortunately it appears Disney is going to run their own product into the ground. Yes it was a good movie. No it was no where near as good as Tangled or Princess and the Frog, regardless of it's popularity. Disney seem content to throw it into everyone faces and put the Frozen group everywhere they can possible fit them. The worst thing is they are doing it in cheap and not great ways. Theming the Christmas Parade to Frozen, kicking Cinderella out of her own Castle Lighting Ceremony, let them take over stores, the cruise line (Elsa makes it snow in the lobby now) They have taken over the show Once Upon A Time. The show used to be so good and now, they've kicked a great cast to the kerb to keep cashing in. We've even stopped watching that.

It's so over the top, it's made our family absolutely hate Frozen and we loved it at first. We literally saw it at the cinema 10 times, the CD was in the car. Now the DVD never gets played, the CD is long gone. Disney has killed their own product. And sadly all these changes for a movie that in another year will have become just another Princess Movie.
 
A few thoughts on this thread:

1) I think some of you should give the Disney princess classics greater scrutiny if you think Frozen is so inferior to them. Take away the nostalgia and the older stories really don't hold up that well, right up to the great homage to Stockholm Syndrome Beauty and the Beast. I love all these movies but I don't understand why anyone would consider some of them greater stories than the newer ones.

2) It's not a flavor of the month. It's not going anywhere. Any more than Star Wars started to fade away around 1981, despite the fact that it's not hard to identify "better" sci fi stories around that time. The Frozen characters (especially Elsa) resonate with the children it's aimed at better than most other movies. Little girls relate to a story about sisters more than they do one about a princess and a prince, who could have guessed.

3) That being said, Disney is definitely creating some Frozen fatigue among long time fans by their approach at WDW because instead of investing in new, long term attractions they are throwing a cheap Frozen veil over existing stuff in the parks. The one capital investment in Epcot is ill conceived (a water ride? Do they know what the word frozen means?) and both Norway and Frozen deserve better.

4) How many people complaining of this have been to the parks? I've noticed that most people complaining about it are reacting to the frequent news about it rather than what they experience in the parks and it's probably not as overwhelming at WDW as people think.

5) Someone disagreeing with you and offering rebuttal on the internet is not "flaming" you. Your opinions stand stronger when you don't end with "go ahead and flame me" as if you expect to be martyred for your bold statements.
 
Finally, someone said it. If people really felt the way they did about Maelstrom before they announced changing it, they wouldn't be changing it. And there would be "I Braved The MAELSTROM!" T-Shirts next to all the Frozen merch in Norway. And I wouldn't have been able to walk on it twice in a row when I went in July.

Totally agree....I get that people are connected to past but Maelstrom was tired to say the least. It will be nice to have something more at Epcot of interest to kids
 
Epcot -- Nothing until at least the end of 2015, if not 2016 (except for a couple of topiaries at the Flower and Garden Festival)

I triple guarantee you there are no Frozen characters in Norway.
 
I triple guarantee you there are no Frozen characters in Norway.

If you're talking about the topiaries, you're right, there won't be Frozen characters in Norway. Disney has already announced the Frozen vignette will be the centerpiece at the entrance to the World Showcase.

If you're talking about no Frozen character M&G at all in Norway, you're wrong. Disney has already announced Anna and Elsa will meet there once their M&G space is finished being constructed.
 
When I was there in September. I was ready to be inundated by Frozen crap. I hate the movie. I hate the characters. I hate all the Frozen crap shoe horned into the parks. However I was pleasantly surprised at how little I actually saw in the park and his easy it was to avoid.
 
Yes, the adults may be feeling all the Frozen fatigue but you have to think to the majority of kids, it's amazing. Our little one LOVED the fireworks, the parade, and wandering oaken's at HS. She was able to stand in line for 2.5 hours to meets Anna and Elsa. Patiently too! Like someone said, this movie defines this generation now and I'm okay with that!
 
Disney is crazy like a fox - $$$'s are 'all' they are interested in - the bottom line. Making guests happy - only a means to the end. I could go on and on about their building more and more, taking over every available bit of 'green' both in the parks and surrounding, DVC's, etc. - not for letting guests have greater views, etc. but for the 'dollar'.

They are a business, and their visionaries have to push for ever greater returns. When they get a really 'live' one, they naturally will 'milk' it as long as they can.
 
I really liked the movie, but it's not in my Top 10 favorite Disney movies. I'm not happy about what's going on in Norway, but I haven't heard how Norway feels about it (only reports from some of their CMs). I'm ok with this years Christmas lightning and parade, I'm just waiting to see what they do next year.
 
I love the movie. I just do not understand the insanity that surrounds it. MK now has to walk people down Main Street because of grown adults trying to get their kids to A&E in the morning. Really? Last December when they were @ Epcot there was a 5 hour wait. Seriously?! You would pay $89 to get into a park to spend 1/2 of your day waiting to meet a character. To each their own...I just do not get it.
 
If you're talking about the topiaries, you're right, there won't be Frozen characters in Norway. Disney has already announced the Frozen vignette will be the centerpiece at the entrance to the World Showcase.

If you're talking about no Frozen character M&G at all in Norway, you're wrong. Disney has already announced Anna and Elsa will meet there once their M&G space is finished being constructed.

Not what I was going for.
 
I'm currently in my local big box store. You guys are really going to hate Christmas shopping this year.
 





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