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[Pea-n-Me]

My day has started off very sad. Once again, another rescue dog I’d applied for two weeks ago has fallen through. I thought this was going to be the one, with them checking all of my references right away, and setting up an interview, etc. Dropped it on me rather callously this morning, only after I’d asked how he was doing, that “He was adopted Sunday“. I am trying very hard to keep in mind that when it’s meant to be, it will be. But this is hard. That is all.

 

[easyas123]

Greetings everyone - I'm going to try to catch up, but I only had the patience to go back 4 or 5 pages . I've taken to really stepping away from the computer & phone as much as possible over the weekends.

I am enjoying my birthday

Good! Pictures look very relaxing!

I was always amazed at the 40 year olds with grandkids.

That was my biggest fear in life ha ha!

DD lent me a box with 4 - 500 piece Kinkaid Disney jigsaw puzzle. I have finished 3 and working on the last. I think I'm addicted.

I've attempted to start a puzzle a few times in the last year. I WANT to get into them...I would think it would be a wonderful way to turn off my head and concentrate on something as a form of relaxation. But no matter what puzzle I try I can't get into them. I'd love to learn to knit/crochet, I think that would accomplish the same thing for me.

I haven't been sleeping well for quite a while so maybe I will do some meditation after supper and try to get some sleep.

Just before the you-know-what hit the fan I had been considering taking a TM course, it's something I'm very interested in but I find it hard to figure out how to start, if I'm doing it correctly? I can not for the life of me get my brain to turn off, so I thought some instruction would be beneficial. I'm still thinking about it if I could do the instruction in person.

we all went to see Frankie Valli in concert. He was someone I’d never seen before and I thought it would be fun when I booked it many months ago. Believe it or not, he’s 87 but he put on a good show!

Wow! I didn't realize he was that old! Sounds like a good concert. We are huge Glenn Miller Band fans, the live concerts are great. Of course, the general audience has us by about 20-30 years. They actually are doing a transatlantic cruise on the Queen Mary 2 next May that we gave a few minutes thought to...but we already have a big trip overseas planned next year so we decided against going.

Casually baking cookies on a saturday night for my mother since THATS WHAT SHE WANTED.

Cookies sound pretty good right now, I made the mistake of not taking the time to have breakfast.

Sister in law just stopped by with 1/2 dozen ears of farm fresh corn, and a cantaloupe. She also picked me up a bag of bird seed, since Walmart has nothing but the $$$ bags of it. And what is going on with cat food again? She sent me a pic of Walmart shelves..nothing but 6 cans of Friskies shredded whitefish and sardines in the entire row? I tried to place an order on Chewy last nite and almost everything was 'temporarily out of stock'. Our local Martins (Giant) has had hardly any cat food for the last 6 months at least.

The only cats we have are barn cats, which we buy giant bags of dry food from the feed store. However a co worker & my SIL are cat people, both with a few indoor cats and they've been saying for a long time about how hard it can sometimes be playing the 'which store has it, which one doesn't' game with the canned cat food they both like to get. I think they have both gone to Chewy for it. We use Chewy for our dog food delivery as well, the convenience (for me) is hard to beat. One less thing I need to worry about running out of and forgetting to pick up!

Going to be another hot day, followed by at least 2 more even warmer , and no rain in sight. That means watering has to be done by me again, but no yardwork as nothing else is growing.

That's pretty much our situation, too.

We had a lot of tomatoes ready in the garden

We are swimming in tomatoes. I'm roasting (I'll add to stews or chili later in the winter) and stewing (with peppers, to use as a base for cooking down large roasts & fish this winter) but I'm about done with them! I've lost count of how many BLT's we've been eating...we had them for breakfast the other day!

We are estranged from MIL now but when DH ever talked to her, she never asked about DD or anything.

We have same situation w/ my husbands mother.

But definitely yummy!

Lil Joe is home!!!!! It is so good to have him back around the house.

I'm sure your daughter is relieved to have him home, and he's glad to be back to his own stomping grounds!

Mexican street corn (again) for lunch

I'd love to hear your recipe as well. I've put some fresh corn in the freezer for future use. I usually sauté it with a bit of butter and some bell peppers, but I wouldn't mind jazzing it up!

and it's almost all healed and nothing needs to be done.

That's great news! Glad for him, what a long 5 weeks he's had!

he heat was definitely turned on here today and will be again tomorrow.

Here, too. hothothot

I am just so tired. I go to bed tired, and wake up tired. And it doesn't help that he wakes up at 11, 1 and 3 most nites and needs help with something.

Have you considered having a night nurse come in, if only for a week or so? You are going to run yourself ragged, and you'll be more susceptible to falling ill yourself if you can't get some proper sleep. Or perhaps have one of your SIL's or DIL's come and stay for a few nights? Just to give you a bit of a break?

Not sleeping properly is the worst!

So - what's been happening with me? Not a whole lot, just the usual day-to-day stuff. We've got a bit of work travel coming up 2 weeks from today, and in 4 weeks we are flying down to Florida for a few days to touch base w/ my folks. My husbands 50th b'day is approaching later this fall and I'm having trouble figuring out anything fun to do for it. That time of year he is fairly busy so going away for a week + is hard, plus we've already got some travel dedicated to pure relaxation on the books for this coming winter, and the big hunting trip he was going to take w/ the kids has been postponed to sometime next year when everyone's schedules can jive up. Yeah we could go out for dinner (boring ) or have a small party (he could truly care less about that). I'm thinking a just whisking him away for a low-key weekend somewhere....I can't just let 50 come & go with no attempt at something beyond the ordinary.
Saturday we may finally venture out to start shopping for the furniture we need to replace. Sunday we have our annual HOA meeting in the morning, and the foster pup gets picked up by her new family that afternoon.

Not sure what dinner will be this evening? Maybe grilled chicken.

 

[easyas123]

My day has started off very sad. Once again, another rescue dog I’d applied for two weeks ago has fallen through. I thought this was going to be the one, with them checking all of my references right away, and setting up an interview, etc. Dropped it on me rather callously this morning, only after I’d asked how he was doing, that “He was adopted Sunday“. I am trying very hard to keep in mind that when it’s meant to be, it will be. But this is hard. That is all.

Wow - that sucks. That's not a very good way for a rescue to be run...I can't believe the trouble you've been having! Are you going thru the same rescue each time, or a breed specific rescue? Did they already do the home inspection? That isn't right - the lack of communication.

The rescue I volunteer for (as a foster, I don't do any of the admin stuff) does it like this:

Foster dog is placed in a foster family, a initial vet visit is scheduled to determine the dogs overall health. Presuming there are no health issues, dog - if not already fixed - is scheduled for neutering/spaying. Once that has happened, a detailed bio about the dog's quirks, needs, habits, who they do / don't get along with, if they are good with kids or other dogs or not....all that is put together. The dog is then put up for adoption. They then sift thru the applications and choose 3 -5 of the applications they think best meets the dogs needs. Those applications are then sent to the foster family, who looks at them and selects - again according to what they think best meets the dogs needs - the adoptive home they feel is best, as well as a 'runner up' in case the first choice falls thru. The applicate is then informed, and the foster will call them and have a conversation with them about the dog and give the final ok to proceed. At that time their references are checked and a home visit is scheduled. Presuming all goes well there, then the adoption goes thru and the adoptive family travels to pick up the dog.
If - at the initial vet appt. - it is found that the dog has some medical issues (known or unknown) they are addressed first before they can be spayed/neutered. No dog goes up for adoption until any medical issues are addressed (including undergoing needed surgeries) and they've been fixed and recovered from that procedure. On average the healthy mill mamas we have had as fosters have been with us for about 2 months as this process takes place. The rescue I work with fosters/adopts dogs from VA/WV/MD/De/NJ/PA/NY/MA/Connecticut & Maine.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

The rescue I volunteer for (as a foster, I don't do any of the admin stuff) does it like this:

Foster dog is placed in a foster family, a initial vet visit is scheduled to determine the dogs overall health. Presuming there are no health issues, dog - if not already fixed - is scheduled for neutering/spaying. Once that has happened, a detailed bio about the dog's quirks, needs, habits, who they do / don't get along with, if they are good with kids or other dogs or not....all that is put together. The dog is then put up for adoption. They then sift thru the applications and choose 3 -5 of the applications they think best meets the dogs needs. Those applications are then sent to the foster family, who looks at them and selects - again according to what they think best meets the dogs needs - the adoptive home they feel is best, as well as a 'runner up' in case the first choice falls thru. The applicate is then informed, and the foster will call them and have a conversation with them about the dog and give the final ok to proceed. At that time their references are checked and a home visit is scheduled. Presuming all goes well there, then the adoption goes thru and the adoptive family travels to pick up the dog.
If - at the initial vet appt. - it is found that the dog has some medical issues (known or unknown) they are addressed first before they can be spayed/neutered. No dog goes up for adoption until any medical issues are addressed (including undergoing needed surgeries) and they've been fixed and recovered from that procedure. On average the healthy mill mamas we have had as fosters have been with us for about 2 months as this process takes place. The rescue I work with fosters/adopts dogs from VA/WV/MD/De/NJ/PA/NY/MA/Connecticut & Maine.

To the bolded - I remember you saying that before, and I think that’s the best way to do it. Yours sounds like a good rescue. She specifically told me this morning they “take applications in order”. So I guess it’s first come, first serve, regardless of best home (cause God knows we have a really great home and situation). I’ve applied for many rescues in various places. My home has been inspected by both GSD and Cairn rescue groups, but no, I don’t apply to the same one every time, necessarily. (I think they do keep applications on file, though.) I follow Petfinder, local listings, social media, I’m on a lot of email lists, etc. I am looking for a certain temperament, and I prefer a female, since we already have a male. (Though this one was a male but with what seemed like the temperament I was looking for.) Ugh. Going to give it a break for a while, I think. I really do believe that when it’s meant to be, it will happen.

 

[easyas123]

I really do believe that when it’s meant to be, it will happen.

I follow a similar philosophy, so far it's served me right! We only take females, as our one ****** lovebug is a roost ruler and will tolerate no other male alpha dog. We've had a strong willed female a time or two (one we have now is super alpha) and it's not been easy swimming. Fingers crossed for you!

 

[Pea-n-Me]

I follow a similar philosophy, so far it's served me right! We only take females, as our one ****** lovebug is a roost ruler and will tolerate no other male alpha dog. We've had a strong willed female a time or two (one we have now is super alpha) and it's not been easy swimming. Fingers crossed for you!

Thank you

 

[flyingdumbo127]

Good Morning Quackers from me, too,

ITA with what PollyannaMom said, Lynn and also second Easyas' suggestion of a possible night nurse. We are concerned about YOU because we care so much

Big hug to you as well, dear Pea. A rescue will indeed come into your home when he is meant to do so. I do understand the disappointment! Thank you and Easyas so much for giving a loving and safe home to furry friends!

Frog, stay cool, friend! So glad to see you posting more often

Quiet Tuesday here that already feels as though it is MUCH later in the day than not even 9am! Time really is so strange right now yet how extra precious as well

to all of you.

 

[lynxstch]

Night nurse not necessary..and Medicare won't pay for one anyhow. It's just that he still can't walk good enough to get to the commode by himself..and with all the lasix he takes, he has to go a LOT,,lol

. I am a little ticked right now. His PCP is the one who set up a virtual visit for 10 this morning upon his discharge. Noone called. At 10:30 he called and he gets an 'uhhh let me see'..girl takes his vitals over the phone..doesn't mention meds at all..noone goes over med list..then she says Dr will call you in a few min. At 11:10 the phone rings..not a virtual visit..just a 5 minute phone call asking him why he needs the appt? They are the one who set it up so she could follow up on the leg that had cellulitis in it! She says she went over the discharge papers, asks how his leg is..doesn't ask him to show it to her with his phone..nothing..all she did was ask if he needed any scrips..which he did, as she said she would take over the synthroid since he no longer goes to the other Dr. He tells her to have it put on file at CVS as we don't need it right now. Instead she calls it in to be filled? And she doesn't even set up another visit, nor schedule him for his yearly physical , which has to be done before Oct..and you always have to wait like 3 months for an appt. I am already thoroughly fed up with this PCP and he's only seen her 2x. I try calling CVS to tell them not to fill it,,and after being on hold for 20 min with noone answering, I gave up. We have now wasted the whole morning on this stuff. At least the respiratory therapist called and is coming tomorrow..only 1 visit for that, and only because he uses oxygen. It's already almost 90 outside and very warm. I am so over this Summer heat already..I want some rain and Fall weather!

 

[Pea-n-Me]

(Posted before Lynn’s post above.)

I think a goal for Mr L will be getting him back into his own bed and getting him to sleep through the night, too, isn’t It, @lynxstch? What are the barriers to that right now? If you identify those and work to change them, hopefully the goal can be achievable. Ovenight I always enter rooms and talk the same way I would for a sleeping baby, ie keeping lights low, minimal interaction, soft voice, out as soon as possible. Don’t make it too comfortable for him. Or friendly, lol. He has to recognize that your sleep and well being is incredibly important to both of you. Make sure everything he could possibly need is there with him before bedtime. If he needs a urinal emptied, give him two - and dump in the morning. If he drops the TV remote, oh well! He shouldn’t have you getting up for things that can wait. He should also be trying to turn off that Stage 2 area as much as possible so it doesn’t break down again. What will it take to get him back into bed so both of you can get a good night’s sleep? Not sure I would get into getting an overnight aide as he’ll be awake all night dreaming up things for her to do! Lol (Kidding, but you get my drift.)

 

[Snowysmom]

Sending thoughts and prayers to all who need some support.

Busy week again this week. With everything we have been through the past month I am so looking forward to our condo vacation in NH the last week of the month. I need to get away and maybe chill out a bit. It will be busy with the kids and grandkids staying for a few days but fun too. I am looking forward to Canobie tomorrow. Plus younger DS asked DH if he could watch the 3 grandkids Friday afternoon while DDIL goes away with friends for the weekend and DS works upstairs in the house. I decided to take a couple of hours off from work and go too. With 3 little ones, the more adults the better. Plus DH gets a bit flustered with dealing with 3 kiddos as the older DGD is very demanding of his time. She is the one in charge! LOL! I usually play with the youngest DGD and we have fun together. She is my mini me.

Pea N Me Sorry to hear your issues with adopting a dog. When it happens it will be the right time and the right dog.

Lynn, It sounds like you are very busy since Mr. L came home. I hope things settle down a bit and you can get some rest. It is hard to care for others if you don't have time to care for yourself.

 

[lynxstch]

(Posted before Lynn’s post above.)

I think a goal for Mr L will be getting him back into his own bed and getting him to sleep through the night, too, isn’t It, @lynxstch? What are the barriers to that right now? If you identify those and work to change them, hopefully the goal can be achievable. Ovenight I always enter rooms and talk the same way I would for a sleeping baby, ie keeping lights low, minimal interaction, soft voice, out as soon as possible. Don’t make it too comfortable for him. Or friendly, lol. He has to recognize that your sleep and well being is incredibly important to both of you. Make sure everything he could possibly need is there with him before bedtime. If he needs a urinal emptied, give him two - and dump in the morning. If he drops the TV remote, oh well! He shouldn’t have you getting up for things that can wait. He should also be trying to turn off that Stage 2 area as much as possible so it doesn’t break down again. What will it take to get him back into bed so both of you can get a good night’s sleep? Not sure I would get into getting an overnight aide as he’ll be awake all night dreaming up things for her to do! Lol (Kidding, but you get my drift.)

Yes that is the goal. Right now the barriers are that he still can't walk that far..and his legs aren't strong enough to let him get into and out of bed. I did get a guardrail for his side,,it's still in the box. PT is going to make that his first goal. He always liked to go to bed later than I do..because I get up hours before he does (normally), so his schedule is going to have to change to match mine a little more, lol. I get your drift..and I thank you again for your response and your advice..which I always take fully to heart!

 

[Bianca and Bernard]

@lynxstch When DH came home from his nephrectomy and adrenalectomy, and again when he came home from his transplant, we got him moving on his own as much as possible. He spent 2 weeks in for the removals, simply because he couldn't move his bowels; and came home on the 4th day after the transplant. Mayo had him up and moving right away, as soon as he was out of the anesthesia, where as with the removals, he was flat on his back for 5 days before they would let him sit up. I told him I'd help him, but that he had to keep putting the effort in to get better. I still put his meds together in his daily pill boxes, and handle his refills and such.

@Snowysmom Have fun with the grandbabies!

@easyas123 Thanks for volunteering at a shelter! Those babies need people like you looking out for them.

@Pea-n-Me I'm storry you're having a rough go finding a dog. I've always looked at getting pets like this: The right one will come along, and you'll realize that you've been waiting for them all along. That they were the ones you were meant to find. So you'll go by a few (or many) just to get that one. Doesn't make it hurt less, I know, but it's my way to look at things.

Well, sad day; I cancelled our anniversary dinner. I don't think things are going to get better in 11 days. Instead, we're going to do cheese and chocolate fondues, watch a good movie, and snuggle on the couch. Our anniversary and our birthdays seem to be magnets for things...work functions (including holiday dinners or picnics); moving; illnesses; etc. Ah well, it's only our...um...22nd (I seriously had to look at the date and do math there...). Hopefully the world gets fixed, so in 3 years, we can have a proper celebration on our 25th.

However, we do order in, lol. And tonight, there is a food truck coming to our complex. So Arroz con Pollo, Columbian Arapas, Colombian and Dominican Empanadas,Tostones and Maduros for dinner. I bought an apple pie for dessert. (Because I suck at making pie crusts. Fillings, no worries...but I fail miserably at crusts....)

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Yes that is the goal. Right now the barriers are that he still can't walk that far..and his legs aren't strong enough to let him get into and out of bed. I did get a guardrail for his side,,it's still in the box. PT is going to make that his first goal. He always liked to go to bed later than I do..because I get up hours before he does (normally), so his schedule is going to have to change to match mine a little more, lol. I get your drift..and I thank you again for your response and your advice..which I always take fully to heart!

What kind of chair is he in now?

 

[easyas123]

Well, sad day; I cancelled our anniversary dinner. I don't think things are going to get better in 11 days. Instead, we're going to do cheese and chocolate fondues, watch a good movie, and snuggle on the couch. Our anniversary and our birthdays seem to be magnets for things...work functions (including holiday dinners or picnics); moving; illnesses; etc. Ah well, it's only our...um...22nd (I seriously had to look at the date and do math there...). Hopefully the world gets fixed, so in 3 years, we can have a proper celebration on our 25th.

Ah no, that's to bad. Our - and I need a minute to figure it out myself! - 28th anniversary is this weekend and we have no plans. Maybe we will come up with something between now and then I, well we, should make more of an effort that consists of more than rum punches in the hot tub listening to the LOTR soundtrack... but that is looking like the top contender!!!

I'm glad to say I actually got around to putting the chicken in some marinade when I went home for lunch, so there will be a honest to god proper meal served at our house today for the first time in several days.

 

[Bianca and Bernard]

Ah no, that's to bad. Our - and I need a minute to figure it out myself! - 28th anniversary is this weekend and we have no plans. Maybe we will come up with something between now and then I, well we, should make more of an effort that consists of more than rum punches in the hot tub listening to the LOTR soundtrack... but that is looking like the top contender!!!

I'm glad to say I actually got around to putting the chicken in some marinade when I went home for lunch, so there will be a honest to god proper meal served at our house today for the first time in several days.

Honestly, rum punches in the hot tub sounds like a perfect date! Happy (early) anniversary!!!

 

[lynxstch]

What kind of chair is he in now?

He has a power lift recliner..I got a 4" pad for it to bring it to a good height so he doesn't have to use the lift function unless he really needs to. Before this, he was becoming way too reliant on it,and I know the exercise of getting up from it to the walker and slowly back down onto the chair after walking a short distance is good for him

 

[flyingdumbo127]

Happy upcoming Anniversaries to B&B and Easyas However you celebrate, I pray you will enjoy the day

Lynn.

Thank you always for your caring posts, Pea.

Have fun at Canobie, Snowysmom! I had to Google to see what that was. Enjoy every minute of your vacation.

 

[PollyannaMom]

@Kirby, I just saw this posted on another thread (show-me-photos-an-avg-tourist-may-not-take) and thought it was yours for a second because of the names! But it says it's by goopysolelady. I'm guessing it's really related to animals at AK (or maybe the Living Seas at Epcot) but thought the grandkids would get a kick out of it. -

 

[Pea-n-Me]

He has a power lift recliner..I got a 4" pad for it to bring it to a good height so he doesn't have to use the lift function unless he really needs to. Before this, he was becoming way too reliant on it,and I know the exercise of getting up from it to the walker and slowly back down onto the chair after walking a short distance is good for him

Thanks, that’s what I thought.



We used this type of Geri chair when I worked in nursing homes (in HS and college). It wasn’t really to sit in all day (especially the old style, though some people did, often tiny ladies), but to transfer into at night, where it could be wheeled next to the bed, then made to be flat (note: not all Geri chairs have that capability), so the patient could then scoot over into the bed, with the reverse process in the morning. If someone was incapable of scooting over, two people could transfer them on a sheet or slide board. If you think Mr L might be able to scoot over with your help, it might be something to consider. The visiting nurses can order it. (Just make sure it goes flat or this won’t work, and remember to lock the wheels before transfer.) I got one for my mother (which did not have the capability to go flat, unfortunately), but it was helpful to be able to take her into different rooms in the house with the wheels. (I remember on Halloween she was able to still enjoy seeing the kids coming to the door trick or treating, for instance.) She also had the liftable recliner, and used both. DH has that recliner now and it drives me crazy, too, when he uses the lift feature to get up! (I think he does it just to tease me knowing it annoys me, lol.) Theoretically even if Mr L couldn’t scoot over to bed, perhaps that Geri chair could be a pseudo bed for him in the bedroom where all bedtime routines could still be observed, to help get him back into that routine? If unable to order via VNA, you can rent them through private companies, as well. You probably won’t need it for more than a month or two. Something to consider.

I also wanted to add that we had many months of VNA visits with PT, pastoral, social service, wound care and nurses, too, and the scheduling but was indeed tough, I remember. There were a few days in winter where I waited to go out until after they came, and by the time they came and left, it was dark out and the day was gone. Definitely a challenging part of home care. Others have said it, too, but please try to eek some time out of every day for yourself, to just chill a bit. I had to do it, too. Often a hot coffee in the dog park became my happy place and where I could get my head together. Caregiving is hard.

 

[lynxstch]

Thanks, that’s what I thought.

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We used this type of Geri chair when I worked in nursing homes (in HS and college). It wasn’t really to sit in all day (especially the old style, though some people did, often tiny ladies), but to transfer into at night, where it could be wheeled next to the bed, then made to be flat (note: not all Geri chairs have that capability), so the patient could then scoot over into the bed, with the reverse process in the morning. If someone was incapable of scooting over, two people could transfer them on a sheet or slide board. If you think Mr L might be able to scoot over with your help, it might be something to consider. The visiting nurses can order it. (Just make sure it goes flat or this won’t work, and remember to lock the wheels before transfer.) I got one for my mother (which did not have the capability to go flat, unfortunately), but it was helpful to be able to take her into different rooms in the house with the wheels. (I remember on Halloween she was able to still enjoy seeing the kids coming to the door trick or treating, for instance.) She also had the liftable recliner, and used both. DH has that recliner now and it drives me crazy, too, when he uses the lift feature to get up! (I think he does it just to tease me knowing it annoys me, lol.) Theoretically even if Mr L couldn’t scoot over to bed, perhaps that Geri chair could be a pseudo bed for him in the bedroom where all bedtime routines could still be observed, to help get him back into that routine? If unable to order via VNA, you can rent them through private companies, as well. You probably won’t need it for more than a month or two. Something to consider.

I also wanted to add that we had many months of VNA visits with PT, pastoral, social service, wound care and nurses, too, and the scheduling but was indeed tough, I remember. There were a few days in winter where I waited to go out until after they came, and by the time they came and left, it was dark out and the day was gone. Definitely a challenging part of home care. Others have said it, too, but please try to eek some time out of every day for yourself, to just chill a bit. I had to do it, too. Often a hot coffee in the dog park became my happy place and where I could get my head together. Caregiving is hard.

They used those chairs in his room on high level care,,they were very uncomfortable for him (not to mention noone knew how to work them, and the one they gave him , didn't work right). They used them in PT for him a couple of times,,but the chair itself was too low and too hard for him to sit in very long. Stepdaughter is taking me grocery shopping Thursday around noon, and the 14 year old granddaughter is going to stay with Mr L while we are gone to keep him company. She loves to play cards and board games, so I figure she can keep him entertained for an hour or so.
I am taking time for me right now,,I am cleaning our bedroom, lol. He is watching old Andy Griffith reruns,so I am cleaning and then I will fix dinner. I will feel better when all the dust is gone out of the bedroom..Thanks again @Pea-n-Me. I do not remember care giving being 'this' hard when he had his cardiac episodes 5 years ago..but then again, I am also 5 years older..lol!