I thought that there were 400,000 for japan and the us together, quite a few people have been robbed or beat up while waiting for a ps3. Just because the ps1 and ps2 were popular doesnt mean to say the ps3 will be, it will more than likely be very popular, but sony are loosing around $200 a console, when the hd dvd is released for the 360 it will be the cheapest hi def player.