Problem at VB Pool - Tresspassers

[PamOKW]

he told me that he had just finished speaking to a woman

I think Vero has a pretty good grasp on who belongs and who doesn't. The pool area is small enough that I think they do catch a majority of the folks sneaking in. I agree that bringing something you see to the attention of management will help keep things under control but I would not be overly concerned that we are being overrun by trespassers. Using a wristband system seems like a better step than having to go the "Ft. Knox" route. It will only be aggravating for us as guests to have to go through clearance every time we leave the pool area to head to the beach or back to the villa/room and return to the pool. You could be checked several times a day. This is also why I think the lifeguards, etc. develop a 6th sense about who doesn't look right and are pretty good at shagging them.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

They might have a good grasp, but I don't think they are acting on it. It is a problem that needs to be better addressed than it is currently. Wristbands is probably the best approach.

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by Maistre Gracey
Oh my!!! That is a HOOT!!!
ncligs, any smileys for that???

 

[jmminarik]

Originally posted by PamOKW
This is also why I think the lifeguards, etc. develop a 6th sense about who doesn't look right and are pretty good at shagging them.

*Gasp* No wonder people are crashing the place!

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by PamOKW
. This is also why I think the lifeguards, etc. develop a 6th sense about who doesn't look right and are pretty good at shagging them.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

 

[madcoco]

Let the lifeguards do their job. I will gladly sit by the gate and check for resort IDs when in the area and make them walk the plank. All for a bottle of rum. Then you have another problem on your hands. a drunken pirate wannabe singing Yo Ho Yo Ho over and over. At least it would be a new change of music.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Originally posted by madcoco
Let the lifeguards do their job. I will gladly sit by the gate and check for resort IDs when in the area and make them walk the plank. All for a bottle of rum. Then you have another problem on your hands. a drunken pirate wannabe singing Yo Ho Yo Ho over and over. At least it would be a new change of music.

I'll buy the rum! This I gotta see!

 

[CaptainMidnight]

Let the lifeguards do their job.

Unfortunately, this isn't working, or the problem wouldn't currently exist.

Encourage the lifeguards to do thier job? It is problably the most unpleasant aspect of ther job, being pool bouncers to thieves stealing resources they didn't pay for. And those pool crashers making a scene when confronted causes unpleasantess for those around.

It would probably be best for everyone to assist the lifeguards in doing their job by providing lifeguards with an appropriate tool like wristbands to make it easy to spot and an obvious deterant to repeat offenders, and members peacefully accomodating the change.

 

[JimC]

Wristbands work well at all-inclusive resorts. You get them at check-in and wear them for the entire trip. No problems getting children to keep them on. It is their "ticket" to enjoy the resort. It is simple, cheap and effective.

 

[dvcmomdeh]

We were at VB the first week of June.

My "newly 12 yo" daughter was walking to the pool from our Beach Cottage at about 7:00 p.m.. She was approached by an older man that was seated on the balcony of the Green Cabin Room to come to his room for a drink. She came running back to the house scared to death. She didn't want to tell me what was wrong. After finally getting it out of her I went to the front desk and demanded to speak to a manager. After speaking with the manager and explaining to her that I do not expect nor will tolerate this type of behavior from guests at a Disney Resort she went upstairs to see what was going on. She spoke with the bartender and other guests and found that he was also distrubing other guests. She asked the person to return to his room only to find out he was a local.

I returned to the house after taking my daughter to the pool to meet with others in our party and received a phone call from the manager that the man had left and that he was not a guest at the resort. She said that the bar is open to the public but that I need not worry about this type of behavior again.

I will think twice about reserving a beach cottage north of the inn again if I have young teens with me. We have been going to very since it opened and owned points there since 2001. We have never had a problem with too many people in the pool.

 

[floridafam]

DawnHaan,

Sorry to hear about your daughter's experience.

Yes, the restaurants and bar at VB are open to the public. I think they do quite a bit of business-at least for brunch on Sunday-with the locals.

I'm glad they asked him to leave the premises-they had every right to do so and I'm glad they followed through on your conversation.

I hope your next experience at VB is much better.

 

[madcoco]

DawnHaan again sorry for your experience. That shouldn't have to be tolerated anywhere let alone a Disney Resort. Were the police called?

Let the lifeguards do their job.

Captain Midnight I should have added, "that they are trained for". Sorry for the misunderstanding. A lifeguard should be there for safety in the pool. Not getting sidetracked to check on who is sneaking in through the gate, misuse of tables and chairs etc.

 

[dvcmomdeh]

No police this time that I am aware of. This question makes me curious as to whether or not this has been a problem.

Wristbands... I won't wear them. Even at SAB I put the bandon the strap of my suit and change it daily. I don't even wear watches due to the fact I can't stand anything tight on my wrists.

 

[RJake1]

Disney prides/markets itself as a family destination. Asking a child molester to simply leave the premises is NOT enough. They should have detained him, or gotten ID, and phoned police ASAP.
I cannot believe, and we should not accept, such cavalier response from DIsney. Where can we complain? Does anyone have a phone number or address? Can the lady provide details (Dates) of her stay?

 

[dvcmomdeh]

I posted my story only to remind other DVCrs to not take advantage of what we EXPECT from Disney.

There are people who do things that we have no control over. Yes, I should have probably insisted that we make the police aware of the situation. Plan and simple. I could say we only had a few more days; the guy said he was only kidding...... But there is no excuse. Scarring my daughter and bringing me back to reality that there arr wacko's out there was enough for us. I am pleased that she reacted the way she did. I least I know that for now I can trust her to come to me and hopefully it is the beginning of a confidence between our family members that we won't let anyone hurt each other if we are open. My 15 year old son from this point on kept track of his preteen sister, instead of wishing that she weren't around. He was afraid of something happening to her also.

 

[RJake1]

I certainly understand your reaction and feelings. It shouldn't have been up to you to insist the police were called. Disney personnel should be trained to respond appropriately. I do not believe they did. This pervert is now free to go out and accost some other child, whether its on Disney property or not. I think I am justified in expecting more from a company that touts its family orientation. Is safety and security too much to ask??

 

[ClarabelleCow]

Was your daughter actually approached by this person, or did he yell down to her. My concern is we let our 11 year old walk back and forth by herself on several occasions and now I'm wondering if we should have let her do that!

 

[ducklite]

Originally posted by RJake1
Disney prides/markets itself as a family destination. Asking a child molester to simply leave the premises is NOT enough. They should have detained him, or gotten ID, and phoned police ASAP.
I cannot believe, and we should not accept, such cavalier response from DIsney. Where can we complain? Does anyone have a phone number or address? Can the lady provide details (Dates) of her stay?

First let me say that I certainly feel empathy for the poster and her daughter.

But they had NO LEGAL GROUNDS to detain or arrest this man. He asked a question of the girl, which was not worded in an illegal manner. He said "a drink". That could mean a soda or an iced tea. He did not give her alcohol. He did not touch her or forcibly detain her. He did not make lewd comments to her. Even if she had gone to his room and he had given her a soda and then she ahd left, he STILL did nothing illegal. Morally wrong, absolutely, but NOT illegal.

If Disney detained him, asked for his ID or called the police they first of all would have probably been sued (and he would have won!) and second of all, the police would not have been able to do ANYTHING more than telling him he had to leave.

I am NOT condoning his behaviour, even if he was nothing more than a nice old man looking for some small talk with a young lady who reminded him of his grand daughter, his conduct was still improper. But improper and illegal are two VERY different things. Don't like it? Write to your congressmen. But leave Disney out of it, they did everything they LEGALLY could do.

Anne

 

[RJake1]

I do not practice law in FL, so I can't say what statutes they have on the books. However, in other States conduct that is otherwise appropriate toward adults is illegal when it comes to minor children. I would expect that there is some statute that criminalizes the conduct described.

I also disagree with the logic that Disney acted appropriately out of concern for being sued. So what? Let the pervert sue. How much money is a jury going to award a child pervert? Do you think he would be a sympathetic figure in front of a jury? I would try that case any day of the week. Child Pervert vs Disney. I couldn't ask for a more compelling set of circumstances. In addition, Disney would benefit tremendously from the positive publicity that they acted aggressively against a pervert (a non-guest mind you) and favored protecting a minor child over their own economic interests.