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Doesn’t mean he should be discriminated against. No one should be discriminated against.
I agree with this. But as a former hiring manager, VERY rarely are "all things equal" except for race and gender. Has it happened where a more qualified candidate has gotten passed over because of thoughts of "filling a quota"? I have no doubts. But that's also been true in reverse, I'm sure, where a more qualified female, or minority, has been passed over for a white male.
 
This reminds me of an exercise I once participated in. They had everyone line up shoulder to shoulder. Then they said, "OK. I'm going to read off a list of life circumstances. If one applies to you, take a step back. If more than one applies, take a step back for each one." Obviously I don't remember them all, but they included "Person of Color," "Cis female," "Transgender," as well as things like "Raised by a single parent," "Did not graduate from high school," and "Diagnosed with a disability." By the end of the exercise, a handful of men were still standing at the starting line, while most people were 1 to 4 steps back or more. Then the leader pointed to the opposite wall and said, "That's where you're trying to get to. That's success in life." We all looked around and realized just how much further some people had to go than others. It was a very profound moment.

I've participated in this exercise as well. It's eye-opening for sure. I don't know if my husband has participated in such an exercise, but he'd be at the starting line. To our parents' credit....neither set graduated from college, and my siblings all have and we're all successful. My husband's parents got one out of two through college and successful. And so that part....our parents understood....the kids will all have a better go in life with an education. My sisters and I...as females, maybe had to work a tiny bit harder, and of course had to avoid being assaulted/harmed as females. But all of us...my siblings their S/Os and us....we all know how fortunate we are just to have been born white, able and American. It's a huge leap forward in the game of life. So this whole new crybaby movement against diversity is *rich*. The movement is led, quite literally, by the people who rule most of the world and are holding on with all their might to keep it.
 
As far as Disney merch, the price difference is likely that it isn't a "brand name" pack, like Dooney or Loungefly, it's just a backpack. I don't like backpacks, i grew up before they were popular, but I know they sure are popular these days. I prefer a messenger bag type thing.
Yes, that's probably it. I, also, agree about cross-body, messenger bags. That's my preference, too. The backpack is also bigger than I imagined. (I looked at it on the Disney Store online.)
 

I agree with this. But as a former hiring manager, VERY rarely are "all things equal" except for race and gender. Has it happened where a more qualified candidate has gotten passed over because of thoughts of "filling a quota"? I have no doubts. But that's also been true in reverse, I'm sure, where a more qualified female, or minority, has been passed over for a white male.
There are many real world examples of people with “ethnic” or traditionally female names getting passed over for interviews. It’s something we unfortunately had to think about when picking out a name for our daughter.

https://fortune.com/2016/06/08/name-bias-in-hiring/amp/
 
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No, do you? Such an ugly and nasty comment.

It's just amazing to me how much love and acceptance isn't being exhibited here when you are all in support of pride month which is supposed to be about those very things. It seems that this thread is full of posters that speak out of both sides of their mouths. On one side you want us all to be loving and accepting of all people but on the other side you show a great lack of both when someone has a different point of view. Hypocrites come to mind.
You are the person who literally said that you refuse to use "new age terms" for gender identity and will stick to the "established terms." I'm very glad to hear that you've evolved on which terms you consider acceptable for race. But my question is, why are you willing to use modern language to describe race, but unwilling to use it to describe gender identity? What, in your mind, is the difference?
 
So, in your assumption, the more talented cis male white heterosexual heart surgeon has been turned away at the hospital's gates to allow for a less qualified/taleneted black woman heart surgeon? Do they report these things on the news....that these things are happening? Are children dying en masse on the operating table at the hands of under qualified black female heart surgeons?

And to answer your question.....no one should ever experience discrimination. White cis male heterosexual Americans are the absolute last group to encounter it in their lifetimes....if they ever in fact do. Most....don't.
I’m not sure what you mean my cis white heterosexual male. Those terms are strange to me so I stopped reading at that. I never brought any classification up. To me all are equal. I only care about job ability when it comes to work. By the way. My best supervisor is now a women, was born a male. My next is is young black guy with a masters. And a woman with a PHD in chemistry. Followed by dozens of Cubans and Bosnians. They get the work done and are mostly good people. That’s all I care about. They were the best. I hired them.
 
No, do you? Such an ugly and nasty comment.

It's just amazing to me how much love and acceptance isn't being exhibited here when you are all in support of pride month which is supposed to be about those very things. It seems that this thread is full of posters that speak out of both sides of their mouths. On one side you want us all to be loving and accepting of all people but on the other side you show a great lack of both when someone has a different point of view. Hypocrites come to mind.
It’s the intolerant tolerant. They are only tolerant when it benefits them.
 
This reminds me of an exercise I once participated in. They had everyone line up shoulder to shoulder. Then they said, "OK. I'm going to read off a list of life circumstances. If one applies to you, take a step back. If more than one applies, take a step back for each one." Obviously I don't remember them all, but they included "Person of Color," "Cis female," "Transgender," as well as things like "Raised by a single parent," "Did not graduate from high school," and "Diagnosed with a disability." By the end of the exercise, a handful of men were still standing at the starting line, while most people were 1 to 4 steps back or more. Then the leader pointed to the opposite wall and said, "That's where you're trying to get to. That's success in life." We all looked around and realized just how much further some people had to go than others. It was a very profound moment.
Life isn’t fair. You can’t penalize people to make it fair for others. If someone is cleaver enough and willing to spend the time to figure things out and take some chances they can have a nice enough life. If they spend time hanging out smoking dope, having babies at a young age and quitting school not so much.
 
Uh oh. Chick Fil A has gone woke. They have a DEI officer!!! Where on earth will we eat now?

https://www.axios.com/2023/05/31/chick-fil-a-dei-boycott-anti-lgtbq

Say it aint so!!!

Well maybe fewer people will be telling us how a mediocre even by fast food standards chicken sandwich has magical unicorn dust in it. Now if we can just get the In and out folks (myself included) to admit it's a good burger at a good price instead of the best thing since sliced bread, I believe we'll be on to something. :)
 
No, do you? Such an ugly and nasty comment.

It's just amazing to me how much love and acceptance isn't being exhibited here when you are all in support of pride month which is supposed to be about those very things. It seems that this thread is full of posters that speak out of both sides of their mouths. On one side you want us all to be loving and accepting of all people but on the other side you show a great lack of both when someone has a different point of view. Hypocrites come to mind.

As you mentioned being transgender, I'm wondering what about pride month bothers you so much?

I know a couple of people who don't like their birthdays celebrated or even acknowledged, so maybe it's like that.
 
Life isn’t fair. You can’t penalize people to make it fair for others. If someone is cleaver enough and willing to spend the time to figure things out and take some chances they can have a nice enough life. If they spend time hanging out smoking dope, having babies at a young age and quitting school not so much.
Every time I think I can no longer be shocked by your comments, you manage to say something even worse. I'm not quite sure how we got from "some people have WAY more to overcome due to life circumstances that are not their fault" to "smoking dope and having babies." Does it make your head hurt to constantly conjure up such incredibly twisted leaps in logic?

And who said anything about penalizing anyone? This thread is literally about celebrating a group of people. Are you somehow being penalized by the fact that Pride exists?
 
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I am the mother of two cis heterosexual men and wife to one as well. They all agree that life is just fine for them and has been for eons for the same. Giving people equal rights doesn’t take away yours, guys. This isn’t a pie.
Same! My sons and husband acknowledge just how privileged they are, based solely on the gender and skin tone they were born with...
No, do you? Such an ugly and nasty comment.

It's just amazing to me how much love and acceptance isn't being exhibited here when you are all in support of pride month which is supposed to be about those very things. It seems that this thread is full of posters that speak out of both sides of their mouths. On one side you want us all to be loving and accepting of all people but on the other side you show a great lack of both when someone has a different point of view. Hypocrites come to mind.
When one "side" is hateful, hell no will I accept it. You (generally) are either a bigot or woefully slow at understanding that "the good old days" where you didn't "have to adapt your language" were only "good old days" for one very small sector of humans.

Adapt and learn and grow or get called out for the hateful, small minded way you (in general) continue to live.

Hateful bigots get NO tolerance.
 
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Life isn’t fair. You can’t penalize people to make it fair for others. If someone is cleaver enough and willing to spend the time to figure things out and take some chances they can have a nice enough life. If they spend time hanging out smoking dope, having babies at a young age and quitting school not so much.
I love how you jump here from “some people have advantages based on circumstances of birth” to “those who are not successful is due to bad life choices.” Seems like deep down you realize how true the post you were replying to is and you have developed a coping mechanism to allow yourself to believe your success was self made.

(And that is before we talk about the dog whistle racism in that post)
 
On one side you want us all to be loving and accepting of all people but on the other side you show a great lack of both when someone has a different point of view. Hypocrites come to mind.
A different point of view is like the debate on when you say a Dole Whip is delicious, and I counter with, "I think they're overrated."

The view that gay people don't belong in mainstream life or don't get to be called by their preferred terms, or that Pride month is not needed because...? is not a mere difference of opinion. It's bigotry, and sorry, not going to accept that without speaking up.

And now we're on race and white men having two strikes against them when looking for a job? Fine. My four-year-old Godson is Black. Strike 1. He has an ethnic name that features an apostrophe, like many Black people. Strike 2. Should he conform to white standards to succeed? Or maybe he should just do drugs and get a girl pregnant, right?
 
I love how you jump here from “some people have advantages based on circumstances of birth” to “those who are not successful is due to bad life choices.” Seems like deep down you realize how true the post you were replying to is and you have developed a coping mechanism to allow yourself to believe your success was self made.

(And that is before we talk about the dog whistle racism in that post)
I kept deleting my reply because I am just disturbed. I want to think missing the whole point of the exercise is not deliberate but these days who can tell.
Life sure isn't fair, and those who benefit most from it being unfair are happy to keep it that way.
Life isn’t fair. You can’t penalize people to make it fair for others. If someone is cleaver enough and willing to spend the time to figure things out and take some chances they can have a nice enough life. If they spend time hanging out smoking dope, having babies at a young age and quitting school not so much.
 
Doesn’t mean he should be discriminated against. No one should be discriminated against.

If your child needed open heart surgery would you want the best surgeon, or would you accept the one the hospital had to hire to fill a quota. I would want the best no matter their colour or sexual orientation.
My cousin is a very nice guy, wealthy family, struggled in high school and college, took forever to get through med school (Caribbean). Fortunately his dad was a hospital president, so he’s an ED doctor. There is no way he’d end up where he is without his wealthy white privilege. My nephew got into one college with a 35 act, my sister blames affirmative action, and not his low grades. They can afford any college.
 
No, do you? Such an ugly and nasty comment.

It's just amazing to me how much love and acceptance isn't being exhibited here when you are all in support of pride month which is supposed to be about those very things. It seems that this thread is full of posters that speak out of both sides of their mouths. On one side you want us all to be loving and accepting of all people but on the other side you show a great lack of both when someone has a different point of view. Hypocrites come to mind.
Being a tolerant person does not mean one has to tolerate bigotry or hatred such as is happening today against those that participate in pride month any more than one tolerates other bad behaviors. Being a tolerant person doesn't mean one must resign themselves to be a doormat. Nor does speaking out against such make one a hypocrite. Nor is bigotry and ill treatment against LBGTQ just another legit point of view to be debated.
 
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