Presidential Election

Who do you think will win this years presidential election?

  • McCain

  • Obama


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I have a question what is Obama's "Change"...he still hasn't told us yet. Because if his change is that he is black than that is a stupid change. We need a President who will be fair and the public needs to stop putting blame on others.
 
I have a question what is Obama's "Change"...he still hasn't told us yet. Because if his change is that he is black than that is a stupid change. We need a President who will be fair and the public needs to stop putting blame on others.

1.tax cuts to 95% of america
2. no war
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRmey2WvWnw

I don't want a crazy in the office, thank you very much.
Besides, I simply can't stand Palin. She'll let her religion guide everything she does, which is BAD. Obama seems religious but it seems like he won't let his religious views get in the way of him being president.
 

But I dont think you realize Democrats are known for taxing people.

And there was a reason for a war. Bush got a hint about Nuclear Weapons and he was trying to keep us safe and when we found out there were none we were asked to stay there and help rehabilitate the country
 
But I dont think you realize Democrats are known for taxing people.

And there was a reason for a war. Bush got a hint about Nuclear Weapons and he was trying to keep us safe and when we found out there were none we were asked to stay there and help rehabilitate the country

I think taxes are a small price to pay with standardized healthcare. So what you have to pay more taxes, at least you can rest easy knowing that God Forbid, something happens to you, you're safe.

Bull excrement to your last paragraph. We stuck our nose where it didn't belong. I can tell you that, foreigners can tell you that, everyone can tell you that.
 
I think taxes are a small price to pay with standardized healthcare. So what you have to pay more taxes, at least you can rest easy knowing that God Forbid, something happens to you, you're safe.

Bull excrement to your last paragraph. We stuck our nose where it didn't belong. I can tell you that, foreigners can tell you that, everyone can tell you that.

And we all benefit from having a healthy society. So if you are of the mentality "Oh I can afford health care, I shouldn't have to pay for other people's health care, it's their problem!". Nope, because I'm sure you would hate to have your kid get sick over and over again at school because one person can't afford medical treatment for their child, so that kid's at school spreading around flu or strep or whatever.

And it's true that democrats tax people a lot, but they have much better reasons for taxing people. They tax people and the money those people pay in taxes goes back to them (in health care, etc). The money reps tax goes to stupid things like war and themselves.

And as a footnote, all other industralized countries have socialized health care. The idea that if you're over 18, you get cancer, then go to the hospital and have them deny you treatment because you have no health care is just ridiculous to them. And I know this because I read international message boards.
 
But I dont think you realize Democrats are known for taxing people.

And there was a reason for a war. Bush got a hint about Nuclear Weapons and he was trying to keep us safe and when we found out there were none we were asked to stay there and help rehabilitate the country

Taxes, to me, are a small price to pay to fix up our economic state. What I hate is people who complain about how there's no cash flow in the government, or that the govt. isn't do anything to improve the quality of life here in the US. Well, we don't exactly have a bottomless money bag. The money's got to come from somewhere.

And Bush and the government had ulterior motives coming out the wazoo for going into Iraq. They lied and personally, I think you're a fool to believe what they said.

The estimated National Debt of the US is $10,528,746,506,618.24.
The estimated population of the United States is 304,992,782.
Each citizen's share of this debt is $34,521.30.

That's a fact. That's our share whether we like it or not. We should be working towards paying that off and getting ourselves out of this hole. That means getting out of Iraq. That means no more tax breaks for people who can afford higher taxes and no more outsourcing jobs (or giving tax breaks to companies that do like McCain has voted for in the past). If we stopped outsourcing our jobs to places like India and China, we'd have more opportunities for employment here at home and thus, a better quality of life because then more people could become government independent.

The sad part is, it's not even a debt to ourselves. $2.4 trillion is debt to China and Japan. What happens when the T-Bills we sold them come due and we don't have the money to pay them back because people want to keep their money to themselves.

Will we end up like Germany post WWII where their money was so worthless after they printed off enough to pay off their foreign debts that people started carting it around in wheelbarrows?

Also, completely unrelated, I just realized I mis-authored a book I recommended a while back. Nickel and Dimed is by Barbara Ehrenreich.
 
From what i've been reading, the USA is the only industrialised nation that doesn't have a universal health care system.
 
I have a question what is Obama's "Change"...he still hasn't told us yet. Because if his change is that he is black than that is a stupid change. We need a President who will be fair and the public needs to stop putting blame on others.

ITA.
 
From what i've been reading, the USA is the only industrialised nation that doesn't have a universal health care system.

It's true. We also seem to be struggling the most, too. Wonder if there's a connection? That'd be an awesome college thesis paper.
 
It's true. We also seem to be struggling the most, too. Wonder if there's a connection? That'd be an awesome college thesis paper.

From what i've been reading, the USA is the only industrialised nation that doesn't have a universal health care system.

Ahem. I said that first.

And we all benefit from having a healthy society. So if you are of the mentality "Oh I can afford health care, I shouldn't have to pay for other people's health care, it's their problem!". Nope, because I'm sure you would hate to have your kid get sick over and over again at school because one person can't afford medical treatment for their child, so that kid's at school spreading around flu or strep or whatever.

And it's true that democrats tax people a lot, but they have much better reasons for taxing people. They tax people and the money those people pay in taxes goes back to them (in health care, etc). The money reps tax goes to stupid things like war and themselves.

And as a footnote, all other industralized countries have socialized health care. The idea that if you're over 18, you get cancer, then go to the hospital and have them deny you treatment because you have no health care is just ridiculous to them. And I know this because I read international message boards.
 
I really hate this country is turning less into a democracy and more into a monarchy. I think we are giving way too much power to the president and the people dont have enough power anymore.
 
Honestly Obama kinda scares me. But I chose McCain, only because I love Palen. I would loooove to see her in the White House. She's great, in every way. :cutie:
 
Honestly Obama kinda scares me. But I chose McCain, only because I love Palen. I would loooove to see her in the White House. She's great, in every way. :cutie:

I honestly dont think somebody that has been brought up on charges of being unethical, abusing her power, and who knows what else is great. Neither is somebody that spends more money on clothes than you could buy a house with. $150k on clothes? Ridiculous. That isn't great way to connect with the people. Not answering questions? Also not a great social skill. Going to New Hampshire (my current state of residence) and saying "It's great to be here in the great Northwest of America..." = not that great. As well as using state funds to have your children travel with you around said state doesn't inspire the idea of responsibility in my mind.

It's also not great that you don't know how to spell her name. I'll take that as a simple typo, but you might want to double check you spelling in the future. It makes you look bad if you can't spell the name of the person you love.

And I really don't mean to sound mean to you personally. I just can't stand Sarah Palin and your post gave me a basis to rant about her.
 
I honestly dont think somebody that has been brought up on charges of being unethical, abusing her power, and who knows what else is great. Neither is somebody that spends more money on clothes than you could buy a house with. $150k on clothes? Ridiculous. That isn't great way to connect with the people. Not answering questions? Also not a great social skill. Going to New Hampshire (my current state of residence) and saying "It's great to be here in the great Northwest of America..." = not that great. As well as using state funds to have your children travel with you around said state doesn't inspire the idea of responsibility in my mind.

It's also not great that you don't know how to spell her name. I'll take that as a simple typo, but you might want to double check you spelling in the future. It makes you look bad if you can't spell the name of the person you love.

And I really don't mean to sound mean to you personally. I just can't stand Sarah Palin and your post gave me a basis to rant about her.

I agree with you on most of the stuff, but 150k dollars is really not a lot for a woman politician (or anyone on the media for that matter) for clothing. Obama's wife's closet is probably worth 5 times more than that. Also...where can you buy a house for 150,000 dollars? Around here houses start in the low 800k.
 
I honestly dont think somebody that has been brought up on charges of being unethical, abusing her power, and who knows what else is great. Neither is somebody that spends more money on clothes than you could buy a house with. $150k on clothes? Ridiculous. That isn't great way to connect with the people. Not answering questions? Also not a great social skill. Going to New Hampshire (my current state of residence) and saying "It's great to be here in the great Northwest of America..." = not that great. As well as using state funds to have your children travel with you around said state doesn't inspire the idea of responsibility in my mind.

It's also not great that you don't know how to spell her name. I'll take that as a simple typo, but you might want to double check you spelling in the future. It makes you look bad if you can't spell the name of the person you love.

And I really don't mean to sound mean to you personally. I just can't stand Sarah Palin and your post gave me a basis to rant about her.
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