POT (Proof of Time) Race Equivalency Cutoff Confirmed Times

[Isabelle12345]

What is the usual accepted POT date range for a race?
We are looking to get into SS 2026 ans wondering if a June 2023 POT race would qualify…
(The information is probably somewhere but I may be too lazy to read the whole thread!) sorry!

 

[DopeyBadger]

What is the usual accepted POT date range for a race?
We are looking to get into SS 2026 ans wondering if a June 2023 POT race would qualify…
(The information is probably somewhere but I may be too lazy to read the whole thread!) sorry!

2025 SS ranges



So presumed 1/1/23-10/1/25 (subject to change).

 

[Isabelle12345]

2025 SS ranges

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So presumed 1/1/23-10/1/25 (subject to change).

You always have all the answers
Thank you so much for your reply!
Looks like we (most likely) won’t need to run another race just for POT!

 

[The Expert]

Confirming POT cutoff for Wine & Dine half is 2:30 and the deadline is May 1.






Also, in an interesting twist, there appears to be a new option for time estimate in the 5K/10K drop-down. Everyone is pretty certain the fastest option used to be "under 8 minutes".

 

[camaker]

Confirming POT cutoff for Wine & Dine half is 2:30 and the deadline is May 1.

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Also, in an interesting twist, there appears to be a new option for time estimate in the 5K/10K drop-down. Everyone is pretty certain the fastest option used to be "under 8 minutes".

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Oh, great, another mechanism to push honest participants further back in the 5k/10k corrals!

 

[fatmanatee]

Reposting from the W&D thread, my theory on what might be happening:

This new estimate seems to be meant for elite runners, and if they're listing a pace estimate for <7 min in the 10k they might do something similar for POTs in the half. Not sure how they would designate them but you'd basically be peeling away a few dozen elite runners here, rather than bucketing them with the rest of A. From what I understand they sort of do this already? But it would be clearer in this case and more open to competitors. Maybe make this corral A and then 7-8 min pace B.

Of course, again, if they leave things open with the 10k (no POT) they're going to get a lot more than the elite runners! So I would strongly suggest that they use POT for at least this group.

 

[prncssjas]

Of course, again, if they leave things open with the 10k (no POT) they're going to get a lot more than the elite runners! So I would strongly suggest that they use POT for at least this group.

Yes, exactly! I was thinking the same thing. But I didn't see anything in Kim's post that indicates that you submit PoT race results for the 10k right? Which means if I select "sub 7" pace -- RunDisney would/should verify that with some type of race result. This is an interesting twist!

 

[fatmanatee]

Yes, exactly! I was thinking the same thing. But I didn't see anything in Kim's post that indicates that you submit PoT race results for the 10k right? Which means if I select "sub 7" pace -- RunDisney would/should verify that with some type of race result. This is an interesting twist!

It's probably going to be very vague until October but what I would suggest is that they just use the POTs from longer races (which can be a 10k) for the 5k/10k. Then after that's done, you can assign the estimates.

 

[The Expert]

Yes, exactly! I was thinking the same thing. But I didn't see anything in Kim's post that indicates that you submit PoT race results for the 10k right? Which means if I select "sub 7" pace -- RunDisney would/should verify that with some type of race result. This is an interesting twist!

Correct. There is no mention of or space to submit a POT for the 5K/10K. Just the new range in the drop-down.

 

[DopeyBadger]

Based on the OP screenshots from 2018, it appears a sub-7 min/mile 5k/10k estimate used to exist. Interested to see if it changes anything, or if we see the normal % of runners shift to choosing the fastest available time. We don't get stats on these like we do the HM/Ms, so it's harder for me to say one weekend to the next. But for the HMs, I've previously calculated that about 10% of the field chooses the fastest available non-POT.

 

[MinnesotaDisneyFan]

I’ve never not submitted a marathon POT when registering for the marathon. But am I correct that I have a better chance at corral A for the full marathon if I submit a 1:47:33 half marathon POT than a 4:01:42 marathon POT?

 

[PeppercornElvis]

I’ve never not submitted a marathon POT when registering for the marathon. But am I correct that I have a better chance at corral A for the full marathon if I submit a 1:47:33 half marathon POT than a 4:01:42 marathon POT?

That 1:47:33 should easily be A corral. Congrats on a great POT!

 

[KCO5988]

I’ve never not submitted a marathon POT when registering for the marathon. But am I correct that I have a better chance at corral A for the full marathon if I submit a 1:47:33 half marathon POT than a 4:01:42 marathon POT?

Yes. A 4:01:42 marathon would likely land you in B unless things change. 1:47:33 half should be solidly good enough for A.

 

[DopeyBadger]

I’ve never not submitted a marathon POT when registering for the marathon. But am I correct that I have a better chance at corral A for the full marathon if I submit a 1:47:33 half marathon POT than a 4:01:42 marathon POT?

The 1:47:33 HM is a 3:47 M using the conversion rundisney appears to have used in the past. So the 1:47 is the better of the two submittable times even if rundisney changes their corral system.

 

[The Expert]

Screen grabs from the selections for Disneyland Half Marathon Weekend 2026!

5K/10K options:


HM/Challenge (POT is still 2:30 or less):

 

[DopeyBadger]

Screen grabs from the selections for Disneyland Half Marathon Weekend 2026!

5K/10K options:
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HM/Challenge (POT is still 2:30 or less):
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Interesting on the 10 min ranges. I've added it to the OP.

 

[GollyGadget]

I don't remember if this has been mentioned here but I found out recently that the USATF requirement has been removed from the POT guidelines. Below is a screenshot from the race policies page for marathon weekend. It now only states "officially timed race."



In reality this is how it's been done anyway, they've just finally updated the guidance. Probably to reduce the number of questions they received about it

 

[Fe Kitty]

I don't remember if this has been mentioned here but I found out recently that the USATF requirement has been removed from the POT guidelines. Below is a screenshot from the race policies page for marathon weekend. It now only states "officially timed race."

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In reality this is how it's been done anyway, they've just finally updated the guidance. Probably to reduce the number of questions they received about it

Long Time disboard rD lurker who finally made a profile. Hi everyone, hope to meet up at a race with you all sometime soon!

Completely agree on the probability of this, I noticed that a 10k that I've run for years no longer shows up as a USATF certified race. Which would explain where I was placed last race. I imagine the number of people who don't have a local or close USATF race in the upcoming months to get a POT.

 

[The Expert]

Long Time disboard rD lurker who finally made a profile. Hi everyone, hope to meet up at a race with you all sometime soon!

Welcome! Don't worry, we don't bite (much).

 

[col1]

When asked regards non US races they said accurately measured so I guess any properly organised race with a website and searchable results would suffice.