Poly DVC expansion coming 2024!

When Copper Creek came out, they called it "Copper Creek." They didn't call it "Wilderness Lodge."

I think VWL to BRV and carving out WL rooms to CCV is a different scenario from whatever Poly might end up being. I can see it going either way-new association for the new DVC only tower or adding it into the existing fold. The tower doesn't look to be that big, so including it with the existing association makes the most sense for me. But who knows
 
I don't think anyone misses the 8 years. The vast majority of people don't have the kids or the income to do DVC until their 30s, and I don't think any of them care very much that DVC won't last them into their 80s.

In my 30s now and just joined DVC last year, definitely adding on here direct and want a full 50 years. I can't wait to roll with the scooter crew in my 80s! But by then the tech will probably have evolved into the hoverchairs like in Wall-E haha
 
It's concept art, likely prepared by an architect from rough elevation renderings. It has no theming or architectural detail, and I wouldn't expect any. it is just intended to represent the general massing and relationship to siting. The level of theming detail that will eventually be incorporated into the final product will be added much later on.
Plus, it's a tower, designed to conform to 2022 building codes, so I wouldn't be expecting wildly thematic exterior elevations or details even in the finished structure. It will, by necessity, be somewhat subdued at least in it's exterior. That would be my guess.
 

I became a convert when I had a last minute nothing-available-but-Gran-Destino-Tower trip over Labor Day weekend. Yeah, the outside is boring but the lobby in that building is GORGEOUS.

Poly already has a remarkable lobby, one of my favorite places in all of Disney. I guess it's possible they put in some kind of fancy lobby? They sure didn't at RIV, or at VGF2, it appears. VGF1's lobby is strange to me, I guess I can imagine something like that. I mean it's nice, but I wouldn't call it GORGEOUS, like I would the Poly lobby.
 
It's concept art, likely prepared by an architect from rough elevation renderings. It has no theming or architectural detail, and I wouldn't expect any. it is just intended to represent the general massing and relationship to siting. The level of theming detail that will eventually be incorporated into the final product will be added much later on.

It sounds like you agree that the concept art looks bland, and I would agree with that as well.

My counter to your argument would be that the most recent new-build that we received, Riviera Resort, ended up looking spot-on like the concept art. I haven't found it to be true that Disney releases a bland concept only to 'plus' it in practice. I've actually found the opposite to be true in some more notable recent cases.
 
So now the naysayer talking points will transition from "They're absolutely NOT going to build anything new, just do cheap cash-grab flips and DLT will be the last new construction for YEARS!" to "Yeah, well, so maybe they ARE going to build new, but it will look like junk".

Got it.
People are right to suggest the artists' rendering of the exterior is not particularly inspiring. Fingers crossed that it looks better after construction is complete.

We recently stayed at the Swan, and the drawing kinda reminds me of the Swan Reserve but with balconies.

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My counter to your argument would be that the most recent new-build that we received, Riviera Resort, ended up looking spot-on like the concept art. I haven't found it to be true that Disney releases a bland concept only to 'plus' it in practice. I've actually found the opposite to be true in some more notable recent cases.

The VGF2 rug looked exactly like the art! I was shocked! That's clearly custom work, and it's beautiful.
 
People are right to suggest the artists' rendering of the exterior is not particularly inspiring. Fingers crossed that it looks better after construction is complete.

We recently stayed at the Swan, and the drawing kinda reminds me of the Swan Reserve but with balconies.

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I'm not saying the rendering is breathtaking or anything, but it doesn't look very similar to Swan Reserve to my eye. I wish it looked more like Aulani, but they seem to be out of the business of building elaborate unique exteriors..
 
Would you remind me pls how VGF2 was managed for current VGF owners? Like only giving them priority to purchase or like they are also owners already of it?
VGF2 is part of the original VGF condo association. Members who already owned at VGF are able to book resort studios in the new building and new VGF2 owners can use their points to book any studio or villa in the original building.
 
I'm not saying the rendering is breathtaking or anything, but it doesn't look very similar to Swan Reserve to my eye. I wish it looked more like Aulani, but they seem to be out of the business of building elaborate unique exteriors..

To be fair, the existing Poly resort is neither elaborate or particularly unique. It's just nostalgic and a GREAT example of the place-making Disney is capable of. As long as it doesn't end up being ugly, I won't be unhappy with it in the end.

Unique architecture is not what makes the Poly the Poly.
 
To be fair, the existing Poly resort is neither elaborate or particularly unique. It's just nostalgic and a GREAT example of the place-making Disney is capable of. As long as it doesn't end up being ugly, I won't be unhappy with it in the end.

Unique architecture is not what makes the Poly the Poly.

Agree 100%, I'm definitely not that hung up on what the exterior looks like. And I would say that it's not that elaborate or unique by today's standards, but I'm guessing there weren't many comparable in theming, etc 50 years ago.
 
It sounds like you agree that the concept art looks bland, and I would agree with that as well.

My counter to your argument would be that the most recent new-build that we received, Riviera Resort, ended up looking spot-on like the concept art. I haven't found it to be true that Disney releases a bland concept only to 'plus' it in practice. I've actually found the opposite to be true in some more notable recent cases.
It's one thing to build a simple grey tower, slap on a mansard roof and some Italianate arches here and there and call it a day. It mimics literally thousands of existing buildings around the globe today (RR actually reminds me of any number of buildings sitting on the Champs-Élysées). I can do a concept drawing for a mid-century ranch house and hit the final aesthetic with my eyes closed. In other words, a Second Empire or Italianate aesthetic is relatively easy to hit pretty early on, based on the vast volume of existing architecture to copy.

It's something entirely different to try and anticipate what a final design aesthetic will be when your goal is to blend in primitive art and construction techniques with contemporary engineering and architectural design requirements.

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There is Riviera's finish art work, with the roof line eliminated. Not really a barn-burner if you ask me. Take away the superficial blue and orange awnings, and it's a grey blob. I think I'd rather have a more practical design treatment up front, than have some wildly themed and wholly impractical to build concept that builds unreasonable expectations. Especially given the DVC crowd.
 
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To be fair, the existing Poly resort is neither elaborate or particularly unique.

The Poly lobby is certainly unique and beautiful, even more so after renovation. It's a special building, second to Contemporary IMO. I'd even rank it over WL or AKL as a unique and beautiful space. And the Poly longhouses are unique as well, maybe that's not a good thing in new construction projects.

Sure, the Poly tower still can see the lobby and go to the lobby. That's good enough for me. I'm thrilled with Poly tower. Everything doesn't have to be as special as the Poly lobby, like the VGF1 vs the Grand Floridian lobby.
 
I'm very happy about this. I actually called this almost a year ago in another thread but I think others have said it as well. It will give poly an opportunity for a true signature dining and not just the family style Ohana. As for the artist renderings, if you want to see ugly...go check out what the original Polynesian tower that never got built was supposed to look like. I don't know about you, but I've never been sitting in a resort pool or in my nicely appointed room and thought, "Damn they really dropped the ball on adding more theming to the outside of this building." Oddly enough I think the building looks like a resort hotel you might find in a warm vacation destination...like say Hawaii.
 
To be fair, the existing Poly resort is neither elaborate or particularly unique. It's just nostalgic and a GREAT example of the place-making Disney is capable of. As long as it doesn't end up being ugly, I won't be unhappy with it in the end.

Unique architecture is not what makes the Poly the Poly.
Amen.
 
The Poly lobby is certainly unique and beautiful, even more so after renovation. It's a special building, second to Contemporary IMO. I'd even rank it over WL or AKL as a unique and beautiful space. And the Poly longhouses are unique as well, maybe that's not a good thing in new construction projects.

Sure, the Poly tower still can see the lobby and go to the lobby. That's good enough for me. I'm thrilled with Poly tower. Everything doesn't have to be as special as the Poly lobby, like the VGF1 vs the Grand Floridian lobby.

Agree. I would argue Poly, WL, AKL, VGC, Boardwalk, Beach Club, Contemporary, Reflections, even VGF look like they were designed by Imagineers. Riviera (at least the exterior), DLT, and this rendering, not so much. I don't hate the look of the new Poly building, but there's no denying the trend is toward more standard looking exteriors on hotel buildings.
 



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