Poly Bus Problems

[kaysmommie]

i agree we yanks can be very polite...to polite people.

I agree with you 100 % . From my experience living in NJ and then TN northerners actually have better manners overall, JMHO.

Finally08, sorry about your experience but me or my DH would certainly have given our seat to you. Terrible that you had to stand holding your sleeping child. But please don't generalize that southerners are more polite because it's not true at all.

ANyway I would not take someones seat just because I'm a woman, I'm capable of standing. But I always give me seat to anyone who needs it more. Like someone who is elderly or holding a baby or any child. It's safer for children to sit on the buses because of sudden stops. To me that is just being courteous to others.

 

[jeffbear]

FWIW, my bunch was there a week before the OP and really didn't experience any problems with bus service from the Poly. We did have a long wait for an AK bus one morning, ut other than that we didn't have any issues whatsoever.

I have been led to believe that Disney is trying to cut back ont he number of busses runnig due to higher fuel costs ... but this is always the balancing act associated with mass transit. I'm sure some weeks will be worse than others ... and thus some weeks are better than others.

 

[Marty Joe]

It's just a courtesy kinda thing. I would offer. Take it or don't take it - its up to you, but there is NO WAY I'm sitting on my butt while while anyone elderly, or with young kids, or special needs, etc. is standing! I was not too clear in my post (I just had a Nyquil smoothie).

The bus situation was made worse for me because we spent 3 days at Pop Century - dedicated bus service and very timely. My issue is not that I expect better servise from a deluxe because I paid more (snob facter). My issue is why the CR, Poly, and GF have to share busses. That is too many people during a peak (or near peak) time. These busses were so packed, there were several times that I was afraid the bus would tip over when the driver took a corner too quickly. All I could hear was "keep moving back"!

 

[bluwater]

This is interesting. I never knew that the Deluxe resorts shared busses. There's a trade-off at every turn.

 

[andymattmom]

If there is someone who has a small child or an older person I will have my sons (11,12) offer their seats. I would never expect someone to give me a seat because I was female or if I had daughters expect someone to give up their seat. If a 2-3 year old is in a seat and people are standing I can see it being proper for the parent to hold the child so someone can sit. My boys hold open doors for older people, offer to help with bags, etc. I will teach them respect and they usually know when it is appropriate to offer seats on a bus. If they are standing and others come on who aren't able to stand or have smaller kids I will stand - as will my husband. I would never expect anyone to give up a seat for me when I am able to stand and have no physical disability - just because I am a female.

I am seriously thinking of renting a car after reading the posts about the bus system here and on the transportation forum!

Thanks for the heads up OP...sorry about the cold.

We also walk to the TTC from the POLY...love Tahiti also!

 

[mickeyluv'r]

Never stayed at Poly, but here's my two cents:

Most folks I've seen do have their little kids sit in their laps. If you are leaving a park at a peak time, you should do it automatically, as the bus is pretty much automatically going to get full.

I don't think able bodied women should expect a seat, but mostly, people ARE kind enough to offer them for small children, and they should. Certainly, as a female adult, if I see a small child without a seat, I will stand. I am not from the south. I DO think able bodied folks who won't give up their seat for a small child, elderly person, or infant/mom combo are extrememly rude. (Curiously though, men are more likely to act as 'gentlemen' if the lady in question is attractive.) ::cop:

Generally, getting a seat is luck of the draw. It's not like the person who gets a seat was in line ahead of folks who were made to stand on the bus before them. I really don't understand folks who get all possessive.

Last September at Pop, I found the buses frequent and dedicated. The buses were better from Pop than from most mods, and some deluxes. Yes, the lines get long, but they move frequently. I also really like that the bus stops there have queues. I hate the free-for-all that happens at the big mods. Now if only they could add some cover...

Oh, and while we're at it, why is there no seating at the park bus stops?

I think it's a crime that GF doesn't have dedicated bus service. I'm sorry, but if you are paying $800 a night, you should get better transportation than the values - not worse. Add to that, the parking at GF is lousy too. The parking lot is really quite far away.

Even at the All Stars, though there are three resorts - there are only three bus stops. The real distance between the resorts is small, so from some room locations, it's actually FASTER to pick the bus up at a different stop. If I ever stay there again, I'd probably walk to the first stop to pick up all buses. We also found several times at mods, the fastest thing to do was to get off at the first (main) stop and walk.

I think if AKL buses do make two stops in the future, it will seriously detract from AKL.

 

[TDC Nala]

This is interesting. I never knew that the Deluxe resorts shared busses. There's a trade-off at every turn.

Almost all resorts either share buses or have multiple bus stops within the same resort. The only resorts that don't are Animal Kingdom Lodge and Pop Century. The All Stars sometimes have dedicated buses for each resort at peak ridership times (park openings/closings).

As has been pointed out, when Kidani Village opens at AKL you will be able to take AKL off that list.

 

[kapoof]

also cbr and crs each have their own bus as well.

 

[huntconn]

Here's my 2 cents (although no one asked!): Any healthy grown man who does not offer up his seat to a standing woman, child, or elderly person has no class and is not a gentleman. I don't care whether or not the standing individual "expects it" or not. I don't care if you've been walking in the parks all day. I don't care if it was really hot all day and your feet hurt. It's the right thing to do. If not, you were not raised properly. End of story....jumping off soap box now
Oh BTW to stay on topic: the Poly buses absolutely suck! Last year on our first day in concierge we actually heard a guy screaming at one of the staff members because of his negative experiences with the bus system. We thought the guy was a bit of a loon for acting the way he was (and still do) but he was right. We waited forever for every bus and when one finally arrived it was unbearabley crowded. I did not realize the TTC was the way to go from the Poly so thanks to the folks who have posted that tip!

 

[TDC Nala]

also cbr and crs each have their own bus as well.

Yes, but CBR has seven of its own bus stops. Coronado Springs (I am guessing that's the resort you mean) has four.

Only two resorts have one and only one bus stop - Pop Century and AKL.

 

[EnnEss]

Here's my 2 cents (although no one asked!): Any healthy grown man who does not offer up his seat to a standing woman, child, or elderly person has no class and is not a gentleman. I don't care whether or not the standing individual "expects it" or not. I don't care if you've been walking in the parks all day. I don't care if it was really hot all day and your feet hurt. It's the right thing to do. If not, you were not raised properly.

Why? Elderly people, thats fine. Women are people, they aren't more fragile nor do they get tired faster than men. Opening doors and such is common courtesy, most people do it for people of either sex. I'm from the north and thats common even among strangers of the same sex, any sex. I was a kid not so long ago I don't remember. At age 6, 7, 8, I was able to stand all the time. Its different if you see kids dead tired, obviously you get up for them.

I take offence to comments about it being southern courtesy. Such stereo types bring more than a few thoughts to mind that are stereotypical that dont warrant being uttered, nor do such comments about north or south being more polite deserve to be voiced.

I think younger people overall will be less likely to give up their seats for women, particularly of their age group, not due to lack of manners and upbringing, but because of improved upbringing. I'm sure most people will still give seats to tired kids who can't stand anymore, elderly, and pregnant women, but equality to all is far more the norm now. Courtesy still exists where I was brought up, doors being held as previously mentioned, please and thanks yous, etc. But some things change and I think women being awarded seats on shared public transit for no reason is one of them, also young people realize women and men are equal, and as such don't expect one sex to defer to the other in any situation, be it on the bus, workplace or in the home. Overall a definite turn for the better. Such improvements are a result of logic and consistent thinking, giving seats to those whose need it.

Talk of the good ole days for my generation brings up stereotypes that go far beyond giving up a seat on the bus, to much more negative things, some involving buses actually. So please, don't preach about lost courtesies lest you choose to look at all the other things that have changed, and many for the better. Some of the same cultures that taught that women should be given seats also taught they should stay in the home and termed marriage as a form of ownership. Not all traditions are worth hanging onto, particularly if the only justification rests in personal opinion that treats people inequally.

 

[SnowWitch]

Why? Elderly people, thats fine. Women are people, they aren't more fragile nor do they get tired faster than men. Opening doors and such is common courtesy, most people do it for people of either sex. I'm from the north and thats common even among strangers of the same sex, any sex. I was a kid not so long ago I don't remember. At age 6, 7, 8, I was able to stand all the time. Its different if you see kids dead tired, obviously you get up for them.

I take offence to comments about it being southern courtesy. Such stereo types bring more than a few thoughts to mind that are stereotypical that dont warrant being uttered, nor do such comments about north or south being more polite deserve to be voiced.

I think younger people overall will be less likely to give up their seats for women, particularly of their age group, not due to lack of manners and upbringing, but because of improved upbringing. I'm sure most people will still give seats to tired kids who can't stand anymore, elderly, and pregnant women, but equality to all is far more the norm now. Courtesy still exists where I was brought up, doors being held as previously mentioned, please and thanks yous, etc. But some things change and I think women being awarded seats on shared public transit for no reason is one of them, also young people realize women and men are equal, and as such don't expect one sex to defer to the other in any situation, be it on the bus, workplace or in the home. Overall a definite turn for the better. Such improvements are a result of logic and consistent thinking, giving seats to those whose need it.

Talk of the good ole days for my generation brings up stereotypes that go far beyond giving up a seat on the bus, to much more negative things, some involving buses actually. So please, don't preach about lost courtesies lest you choose to look at all the other things that have changed, and many for the better. Some of the same cultures that taught that women should be given seats also taught they should stay in the home and termed marriage as a form of ownership. Not all traditions are worth hanging onto, particularly if the only justification rests in personal opinion that treats people inequally.

"some involving buses actually", a bit over the top, don't you think? Considering what we are discussing.

The turns some threads make never ends to amaze me.