Plastic Bag?

[disneyldwjr]

Actually the TSA website says quart size or less. I don't think the TSA wants to start debating if 2 or 3 sandwich bags are equivalent to a quart bag. One smaller bag complies. Is it that hard to just use a quart bag? We complain when the security lines get long, we can do our part and seperate items as requested.

http://www.tsa.gov/assets/pdf/bag_poster.pdf

This seems like an efficient way to relax the restrictions in way that accommodates the needs of passengers. The quart bag limits the total quantity and makes it easy to seperately screen the items.

Actually the main page and the hyperlink say quart sized bags. I do agree that the regulation does make things easier. I don't have a problem with it, that's for sure. Of course, I check just about everything anyway. I don't have the urge to do ANYTHING in the bathrooms on a plane. They are just too germ filled for me.

 

[disneyldwjr]

You don't live in the middle of no where. Stop at whatever store is on the way home, grab the bags, pay in the express line and go home. I'd say it's maybe 10 minutes, including a mile or two detour on the way.

I'm not seeing what the big deal is, this was announced several days ago, you knew you were going on the trip, why didn't you just deal with it over the weekend?

Anne

The OP will have been working 36 hours by the end of this evening. That equates to 3 days. I am thinking that perhaps she is tired and just thought of this. Cut the lady some slack, geez, not everyone plans as perfectly as you.

 

[disneyldwjr]

The TSA is the biggest waste of tax dollars ever. They hired incompetent morons who had to get jobs to get off welfare and now have to add and/or change arbitrary and ineffective rules every few days to make it look like they are doing something to "protect our safety" in order to keep their paychecks. Take the money and spend it on intelligence (an oxymoron in itself when speaking of government beauracracy)--it would be much better spent

THAT is without a doubt one of the most ignorant prejudicial statements I have ever read.
IF it were true, I would think you would be delighted that they were self supporting.
IF it were true, I would wonder how you knew they were morons, did you test their IQ's.
IT is true that some are on power trips, but, that occurs everywhere all the time.
Not all are what you portray them to be. Some are highly intelligent, some are US military Vets, some are people trying to make a living and doing the best job they can. They don't make the rules, they only interpert them and impliment them as they are instructed to. We all know things can be lost in the translation.
Your broad brush painting of them only makes you look like what you call them.

 

[disneyldwjr]

Well the Website might say quart size or less, but the actual agents ONLY accept quart sizes....

It's not that hard, but would it be that hard for the TSA agent to realize that ONE snack size is SMALLER then ONE quart? The TSA has forgotten what thier mission is. It is not harrassment of innocent travelers.... (And if they are NOT smart enough to figure that out....then HOW do you think they can EVER find anything unless the terrorist shows it to them?)

I think it is an attempt to standardize and limit what can be brought on the plane. I can see the logic of keeping the bags to one size. It would already slow down a slow procedure to have someone with 6 different size baggies or one one gallon size bag, etc.
Personally, I liked the total ban on carry on stuff. I did think the ban on anything bought in the sterile area (drinks) was silly.

 

[Lewisc]

Actually the main page and the hyperlink say quart sized bags. I do agree that the regulation does make things easier. I don't have a problem with it, that's for sure. Of course, I check just about everything anyway. I don't have the urge to do ANYTHING in the bathrooms on a plane. They are just too germ filled for me.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/9-25_update_passenger_guidance_faq.shtm

also says quart or less

The main page says

that fit comfortably in ONE, QUART-SIZE, clear plastic, zip-top bag

One could say something that fits in a sandwich size bag will comfortably fit in a quart sized bag.

I use DME and will want to bring contact lens saline and eye drops.

I'm going to make my life easier and just use a one quart bag.

Maybe I'll be nice and bring a few extras in case passengers in line need one.

 

[disneyldwjr]

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/9-25_update_passenger_guidance_faq.shtm

also says quart or less

The main page says


One could say something that fits in a sandwich size bag will comfortably fit in a quart sized bag.

I use DME and will want to bring contact lens saline and eye drops.

I'm going to make my life easier and just use a one quart bag.

Maybe I'll be nice and bring a few extras in case passengers in line need one.

Then it goes on to say: What is TSA’s policy if a passenger comes to the screening checkpoint with multiple clear plastic, quart-size zip-top bags?

Only one quart-size, clear plastic, zip-top bag with 3-ounce or less containers comfortably fitting in the bag will be permitted through the screening checkpoint.

Any wonder why there is such confusion?

 

[Lewisc]

Then it goes on to say: What is TSA’s policy if a passenger comes to the screening checkpoint with multiple clear plastic, quart-size zip-top bags?

Only one quart-size, clear plastic, zip-top bag with 3-ounce or less containers comfortably fitting in the bag will be permitted through the screening checkpoint.

Any wonder why there is such confusion?

and the next Q&A says:

Our Security Officers will be checking the clear plastic zip-top bags to ensure they are quart-size or less

The wording allows for a passenger that wants to bring a smaller bag, I'll leave those issues to Carol. Using a quart size bag is easier than debating regulations with the TSA rep.

 

[disneyldwjr]

and the next Q&A says:



The wording allows for a passenger that wants to bring a smaller bag, I'll leave those issues to Carol. Using a quart size bag is easier than debating regulations with the TSA rep.

Yep, I think I will leave it to Carol too. I am just going to check it and not worry about it. Most of my stuff goes into quart size zip lock bags to prevent possible spill damage anyway. So, should I decide to become a pack mule and need to "visit" the onboard bathroom (God forbid) I will be all set.

 

[50 years Too!]

Why do people feel the need to tell her it is no big deal?
I agree, it isn't, but why the lectures?

 

[Poohbear123]

Tell us how you REALLY feel! And...you are sooo right!

 

[CarolA]

My solution (and from what I am reading in some media outlets) that of MANY others is to CUT WAY back on flights.

Business trips that used to be flights are now driving trips.

It's not so much the liquid ban and I just am TIRED of dealing with the TSA. Airtravel has become so much of a hassle that I would rather drive 5 hours then fly one.... And these were the flights the airlines could NOT afford to lose. I have my $150 trip to Orando booked, but my $500 last minute trip to Nashville is now a driving trip. (Which do you think the airlines would rather I bought?)

 

[RachelEllen]

Rachel, it does state that on the site. And, yes, you can vent and say it is idiotic, but, it does save time for everyone if they don't have to paw through your stuff and everything is in one place.

Here is what I found on the TSA site. http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/index.shtm

Travelers Can Bring Three Ounce Containers Of Toiletries
Items Must Be In A One-Quart, Clear, Plastic, Zip-Top Bag
TNo Restrictions For Medicines, But You Must Declare You Have The Items

Thanks for your understanding on the working hours. It's honestly a very small vent, as vents go. (Although I stand by my one hour assessment at rush hour on a weekday to go the 1.5 miles out of my way to a grocery store, park, get baggies, and go the 1.5 miles back on course.)

I definitely agree that there are places on the site that clearly state the rules. What happened to me, incidentially, is that I heard about the new rules, and clicked first to this page:
http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/9-25_updated_passenger_guidance.shtm

I read it, interpreted it as I have explained, and went about my way over the weekend. This morning, while tooling about the internet over breakfast, I happened on the CNN story about the flyertalk.com fellow and his 'Freedom Baggies.'

As an aside, while I agree with you that the carry-on situation is out of control, from what I've read, airlines are unprepared to deal with a large increase in checked baggage. With the liquid ban, a lot of people were forced to check some bag. Which led to a lot of people checking a lot more bags. (Which I understand, if I have to check something, I'm much more likely to carry-on just the essentials and check a larger bag.) Now I'm wishing I had just revisted the TSA site instead of posting here. There were already problems with insufficient staffing and time to deal with all the checked baggage.

 

[RachelEllen]

I did think the ban on anything bought in the sterile area (drinks) was silly.

Interesting point, that one. I had assumed that that was not because of any danger from those items, but to simplify secondary screening. No liquids is much simpler if it is just no liquids. Now they have to deal with 'Is that sterile Starbucks vs smuggled Starbucks'

 

[ducklite]

(And if they are NOT smart enough to figure that out....then HOW do you think they can EVER find anything unless the terrorist shows it to them?)

Isn't that the point I've been trying to make for months?

Anne

 

[ducklite]

THAT is without a doubt one of the most ignorant prejudicial statements I have ever read.
IF it were true, I would think you would be delighted that they were self supporting.

Self-supporting in a manner that doesn't affect the safety of passengers, yes, I'd love it. In jobs they aren't fit for, no, I do'nt like it at all. And yes, it is true in many major cities. A LOT of the people who were hired for TSA jobs were on welfare prior to being hired.

IF it were true, I would wonder how you knew they were morons, did you test their IQ's.

I don't need to. I've heard them interact with each other and passengers. They do'nt have a grasp of the English language. And I'm not referring to people of Hispanic origin.

IT is true that some are on power trips, but, that occurs everywhere all the time.

That's an overstatement. Many of the people in those jobs shouldn't be. Give them a mop, because that's about what they should be doing. Look at all the people the TSA has hired who turn out to be criminals or illegal immigrants, let alone those hired by the airlines and airports who pass initial checks and are given access to secure areas.

Not all are what you portray them to be.

But enough are that it's a significant issue.

Some are highly intelligent,

I'm sure a small number are.

some are US military Vets,

That doesn't impress me, there are a lot of absolute morons in the ranks of the enlisted.

some are people trying to make a living and doing the best job they can.

That's great, but making a living and doing a good job are two different things, and last I knew we do'nt give people a job simply so they can make a living, we give them jobs because they are capable of doing them well.

They don't make the rules, they only interpert them and impliment them as they are instructed to. We all know things can be lost in the translation.

And that's the problem. If they are protecting our security, it should be black and white, not what some TSA officer decides is the rule of the day while brushing their teeth that morning.

Your broad brush painting of them only makes you look like what you call them.

Your opinion. Many will disagree.

Anne

 

[seashoreCM]

>>> multiple quart sized zip lock bags

If the person knew enough about the rules to put stuff in the bags in the first place he should certainly have known enough about the rules that only one such bag was allowed.

Disney hints:
http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm

 

[goofy4tink]

Can we get back on track here people? Away from the discussions about the 'intelligence' of the TSA agents please. No one is going to decide this one, everyone has their own idea, and these are people we are talking about. Either get back to discussion of plastic bags or this thread will be done. It's getting a little close to personal confrontations. Play nicely DISers!

 

[Nite0wl71]

We flew out of Midway in Chicago last week, they were actually handing out the sandwich size bags if anyone needed them. I always pack mine in ziploc anyway in case something opens.

Just a note my DD flew out of Midway on Thursday and was running late and was told to take all her bags as carry ons. She had 15 oz size bottles of shampoo and conditioner in a quart size bag and another quart bag with the babies sun screen and other liquids that was suppose to be in her checked luggage. Since she couldn't check them, when she went through security they just sent the bags through the scanner and put them back in her carry ons

 

[CarolA]

Just a note my DD flew out of Midway on Thursday and was running late and was told to take all her bags as carry ons. She had 15 oz size bottles of shampoo and conditioner in a quart size bag and another quart bag with the babies sun screen and other liquids that was suppose to be in her checked luggage. Since she couldn't check them, when she went through security they just sent the bags through the scanner and put them back in her carry ons

OK so the solution at Midway is if you want to "break the rules" just arrive late... I guess folks with "evil intentions" arrive EARLY

(By the way, my coworked just informed me this doesn't work in Tampa!)

There are few rules that make controls good.
1. Consistency
2. Intelligence.

(Both appear to be missing here)

 

[agnes!]

We are flying out of Washington/Dulles this Friday. We were going to pack per person a one-quart/Ziploc bag for our 3 oz. or less toiletries, plus other items, as usual would be sealed in ziploc bags(Mineral makeup, shower to shower, etc). So, someone who has flown since the new TSA rules went into effect, please reply...
From what I have been reading here, it sounds like some TSA agents are NOT accepting Ziploc-style qt bags, but are ONLY accepting the Quart bags with a zip-tab/zipper-type closure. Is this true?
From what I have read here, it sounds like *if* I have multiple ziploc bags(since I don't want my never-banned shower to shower or mineral foundation to possibly leak all over my clothes), I might be told to throw away everything except what can fit in *one* quart-size bag. Is this true?

Thanks,
agnes!