I went mid-late Aug last year and didn’t buy any Genie or ILL. Longest wait we had was around 40 for 7DMT, and 60 for Tron using VQ. If you’re ok doing morning and evening rides you’ll be totally fine without it. Only park where it’d probably be really worth testing is Studios because they have some heavy hitters in that tier 1 category that consistently have long waits.
I feel better knowing there is an hour window.
It's hard to keep up with, that's for sure!! LOL! Right now, Guardians and Tron are VQs and Tiana's will be for awhile after it opens. It could all change again by 2025...goodness, it could all change again before this fall when we go
. BUT, with this new system you still have to be at the park early to use your first one in order to get another. There is no stacking, which the elimination of tiers and stacking was the benefit of genie+. So you get an extra what half hour? Hour tops? But at what cost!!! Or are you happy with using it 3 or 4 times and calling it a day? Like did you not wake up at 7, get dressed and eat breakfast and then roll into the park for EE or go back to sleep for a bit if you preferred to stack and have a pool day?Taking away the ability to stack is a major bummer. Tier 1 rides will probably be unavailable after noon. Not too mention the weather aspect. We all know how unpredictable our weather is down here. Currently you can wake up and decide if its worth it depending on the weather. If we have to buy in advance and it ends up raining there's gonna be some problems. Currently the policy is no refunds and if that doesnt change well, Guest Services can be bad enough as it is this is gonna make it worse for them. There's many potential headaches with this system not to mention we'll still be glued to our phones so I'm still not sure why they're doing this.I don’t understand those who are like yay no 7am. I mean us with young kids are up anyway so it never made a difference
With Genie+ you could essentially wake up at 9am and be able to stack 5 rides from your room without stepping foot in the park. If you’re up early and in the park - Genie+ could get you upwards of 15+ rides in MK for the day!!
Like people seem okay with not waking up early but spending extra for a throwaway room just to book further out in advance with a system that’s designed to not let you hold more than 3 rides at a time.
And with those wanting to book further in advance it’s safe to say generally people anticipate there being little headliner availability day of. Which would stink!! That’s a big sacrifice!
I would think the best chance for a second headliner would be to scan right at park opening for a pre-booked ride, and then try to book the second headliner ASAP. If it’s even available. But if you’re not up early and in to get that 4th pass in person (via scanning in for the first) chances are you are going to miss it.
That just doesn’t seem like a worthy trade off. It sounds like we’ll be glued to our phones MORE waiting for attractions to randomly pop up, hoping people cancel because they made what needs to be day of arrangements too far in advance.
It's definitely confusing, but both Tron and Guardians have both. You can either purchase an ILL or you can join the VQ at 7am or 1pm.
Any ride with a VQ (currently Tron and GotG) will also have LLSP, so you can buy a LLSP early or try your luck at the VQ the day of, or do both
VQ and ILL are fairly unrelated.
If they don't allow overlapping time periods, that's somewhat mitigated. If I have SDMT at 1:05, Winnie-the-Pooh at 2:10, and Dumbo at 3:10, I may end up with some time to kill between rides.
Sorry, way too much thinking and making this so much more complicated just to "game" the system. Just go and enjoy your vacation as much as possible. I am not say not to use LL but its exhausting trying to figure out all the ways to beat the system.
A Lightning Lane Single Pass attraction is not the same as a VQ with a new name. It is the same as an ILL with a new name.
Yep, that’s one thing I don’t like about it.
Actually, some attractions don't have a paid Lightning Lane. They're standby only (except for DAS, VIP, etc.).
I said the Advance option could be more expensive since they get cream of the crop choices.
After the first week everybody will be competing with everybody - everyday. Cream will be closer to Butter
Many of the attractions in the tier 1 lists currently have G+ availability well into the morning and past noon on most days. Plus some of the true Tier 1 rides are locked behind ILL/VQ anyway. If your first pre booked LL is pretty early, no reason to think there won’t be some availability after you use it. Now if you’re hoping to book slinky dog at 1030 or something probably not.
I think a lot of people are thinking back to the FP+ days for strategies for initial bookings. I've given this a lot of thought; of course we won't know for sure until the first wave of test cases, but I'm reasonably sure - assuming the number of slots allocated per LL per hour per ride remains the same (and I suppose they could safely raise that a bit, knowing the total number of people in those lines has gone down since the DAS overhaul) - that it will be easier to book what you want with this new system as opposed to FP+.
That does make sense.
