Plan Ahead with Lightning Lane Entry at Walt Disney World Starting July 24

[FLCA026]

So, do you have something in that spot? If you have a tier 2 or meal, that's the problem. You can cancel or move the less-important item, and it may help.

Ok it is close to the lunch reservation at 12:35. And I wanted to change pirates to 1:25 but it won’t do it.its fine. We will work with what we have.

 

[Tom_E_D]

1- I know you can purchase your lightening lane choices 3 days out or 7 days out if you are staying at a Disney hotel. What time of day can you make the purchase on the day it is available to you? Is it 7:00AM or 12:01AM?
2- What happens if you cancel your hotel stay? Do you get you lightening Lane money back? Will your lightening lane purchases still be valid?

Please forgive me if this information was posted somewhere in this thread. I couldn't find it.

1. As someone else already answered, it's 7:00 AM, Eastern time.
2. From the Disneyworld website:
"Lightning Lane Multi Pass is nonrefundable. If you cancel or modify your Resort hotel reservation after you’ve already purchased a Lightning Lane Multi Pass, then your selected attractions and arrival windows are subject to cancellation based on eligibility rules.

When you become eligible to make Lightning Lane selections again, then you can use the My Disney Experience app to choose available Lightning Lane Multi Pass experiences and arrival windows for the pass you previously purchased."

I haven't seen any reports from people who did it and reported on their experiences.

 

[spewey]

Yeah, gotta agree standby times are lower because crowds are lower and the DAS purge is complete. Not the new MPLL system. Alas, only Disney holds the evidence and they won’t share it.

Two things. Not arguing, as I don't know for certain - there have been a lot of posts saying "attendance is lower" but didn't a couple people upstream in this thread quote real data that shows that is not actually true?

As to the DAS changes - how would that improve standby wait times? I get how it would improve LL times, and in fact from what everyone is reporting those lanes are indeed "lightning fast" nowadays. But unless there are those that are simply not going to the parks without DAS, wouldn't they just move from the LL to standby?

 

[gottalovepluto]

Two things. Not arguing, as I don't know for certain - there have been a lot of posts saying "attendance is lower" but didn't a couple people upstream in this thread quote real data that shows that is not actually true?

As to the DAS changes - how would that improve standby wait times? I get how it would improve LL times, and in fact from what everyone is reporting those lanes are indeed "lightning fast" nowadays. But unless there are those that are simply not going to the parks without DAS, wouldn't they just move from the LL to standby?

Summer is a slow time. The data has just suggested it's not dead but it's still slow-moderate, especially when you read the reports of folks actually there who seem to be reporting wait times seem even more inflated than usual.

Many ex-DAS users can't do as many rides as before, it's not a matter of they switched to standby so much as a matter of if they have to wait in the line they'll only ride popular rides once per trip instead of multiple times. It's easy to ride headliners all the time when you can grab a return time and eat and hit the ride after your meal, totally different ballgame when you have to pass that hour in the line...

 

[DisneyFive]

I wouldn't lump the Late Risers into the Losers category just yet. We've got a Shades of Green visit coming up soon where I can test this theory out myself.

Was just going to reply the same thing. I'm struggling to see how are late risers are losers now? We aren't forced to be up at 7am every dang morning anymore. That's huge!

I also guess it depends on just how late is considered a "late riser". For me, later risers, by WDW terms are those arriving to a park 9:30am until maybe 11am or so. Anything later than that and you aren't even trying, and shouldn't expect a ton out of your day.

At lease now with MPLL we can have 3 booked in advance, every day, and sleep in. We will try to book our first attraction from 9-10am or maybe 9:30-10:30am. Then, as soon as we tap into the first attraction start looking for as many tier 1's as possible and roll from there like the good 'ol FP+ days

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

Was just going to reply the same thing. I'm struggling to see how are late risers are losers now? We aren't forced to be up at 7am every dang morning anymore. That's huge!

I also guess it depends on just how late is considered a "late riser". For me, later risers, by WDW terms are those arriving to a park 9:30am until maybe 11am or so. Anything later than that and you aren't even trying, and shouldn't expect a ton out of your day.

At lease now with MPLL we can have 3 booked in advance, every day, and sleep in. We will try to book our first attraction from 9-10am or maybe 9:30-10:30am. Then, as soon as we tap into the first attraction start looking for as many tier 1's as possible and roll from there like the good 'ol FP+ days

I agree. For FP+, we always made our initial reservation for 9:30 which gave us until 10:45 to arrive at the first attraction. It may be better now as you can add new selections after the 1st ride instead of the 3rd ride. As long as the Refresh/Modify feature still works well we will be good to go.

 

[DaviVascaino]

Was just going to reply the same thing. I'm struggling to see how are late risers are losers now? We aren't forced to be up at 7am every dang morning anymore. That's huge!

I also guess it depends on just how late is considered a "late riser". For me, later risers, by WDW terms are those arriving to a park 9:30am until maybe 11am or so. Anything later than that and you aren't even trying, and shouldn't expect a ton out of your day.

At lease now with MPLL we can have 3 booked in advance, every day, and sleep in. We will try to book our first attraction from 9-10am or maybe 9:30-10:30am. Then, as soon as we tap into the first attraction start looking for as many tier 1's as possible and roll from there like the good 'ol FP+ days

according to several users here, it is hard to book a LL for early in the morning, it seems most rides are showing availability only afternoon.

 

[DisneyFive]

I agree. For FP+, we always made our initial reservation for 9:30 which gave us until 10:45 to arrive at the first attraction. It may be better now as you can add new selections after the 1st ride instead of the 3rd ride. As long as the Refresh/Modify feature still works well we will be good to go.

Agreed.

according to several users here, it is hard to book a LL for early in the morning, it seems most rides are showing availability only afternoon.

Even tier 2's?

 

[DaviVascaino]

Agreed.


Even tier 2's?

I am not sure, my trip is not until feb 2025, but just feeling discouraged with the initial reports

 

[spewey]

Summer is a slow time. The data has just suggested it's not dead but it's still slow-moderate, especially when you read the reports of folks actually there who seem to be reporting wait times seem even more inflated than usual.

Many ex-DAS users can't do as many rides as before, it's not a matter of they switched to standby so much as a matter of if they have to wait in the line they'll only ride popular rides once per trip instead of multiple times. It's easy to ride headliners all the time when you can grab a return time and eat and hit the ride after your meal, totally different ballgame when you have to pass that hour in the line...

I'm not debating whether summer is slow or not, just that the narrative that this summer has been slower than in the past seems to not be backed up by any reliable data.

As to the DAS - yep, if not being able to qualify means fewer people in an actual line, then yes, the standby waits go down. Which makes sense the way you laid it out.

 

[DisneyFive]

I am not sure, my trip is not until feb 2025, but just feeling discouraged with the initial reports

I think it really depends on if you are staying onsite or offsite. Onsite guests, with the 7+10 booking window have a great chance. Take for instance the hardest to get MPLL of them all, Tiana's. No availability until 10 days from now and by 11 days it's early morning. So you can snag a good time 3-4 days into your stay if you are onsite. Keep in mind this is THE hardest to get MPLL right now

Courtesy of thrill-data.com


Your typical HIGH demand MPLL like Space Mountain already early morning times just 3 days from now


Another super popular MPLL, things are looking just fine.


My consensuses is that the sky is not falling.

Dan

 

[DaviVascaino]

I think it really depends on if you are staying onsite or offsite. Onsite guests, with the 7+10 booking window have a great chance. Take for instance the hardest to get MPLL of them all, Tiana's. No availability until 10 days from now and by 11 days it's early morning. So you can snag a good time 3-4 days into your stay if you are onsite. Keep in mind this is THE hardest to get MPLL right now

Courtesy of thrill-data.com
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Your typical HIGH demand MPLL like Space Mountain already early morning times just 3 days from now
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Another super popular MPLL, things are looking just fine.
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My consensuses is that the sky is not falling.

Dan

when are you going? post your experiences please lol

 

[FLCA026]

I didn’t get anything earl on my choices. . No Tiana. I will just have to wait and do that another time.

 

[LSUfan4444]

We're in the early stages of a split stay next summer and have kind of shifted things around to do a few days at the end of our trip on site and the first past off-site. The off-site days will be the days we visit Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom since they've got less of a LLMP priority for us and may not use LLMP at all. The last few days will be the Epcot and MK days where we will need to prioritize the earlier booking period.

 

[ST1TCH]

It seems a lot of focus is being put on the negative reports of LLMP use. I have watched at least 4 different videos now of vloggers using it and showing lots of success. There've also been several posts in this thread with lots of success. Maybe not success in the initial booking but positive outcomes day of and while in the park with fiddle-faddling or playing the slots.

 

[DisneyFive]

when are you going? post your experiences please lol

All I can do it post real data.

On the other hand there are a LOT of reasons why any given person can struggle with with prebooking the MPLL times they wanted...

• Aren't up at 7am of day 7 or 3 of their booking window.
• Unfamiliar with or inefficient use of the app
• Poor internet/cellular connection
• Take too long making selections or making payment
• Don't plan later in their stay to book something like Tiana's.
• etc...

Day-of MPLL availability is another thing altogether. It also highlights that some folks will make optimal use, researching MPLL drop times, refreshing, booking their time windows effectively, etc...

There will always be those that complain about the current system, when a little research would have going a long way. I've been hearing it for over a decade, while the whole time we've maximized and made full use of every "skip the line" service we've had available to us.

 

[LSUfan4444]

It seems a lot of focus is being put on the negative reports of LLMP use. I have watched at least 4 different videos now of vloggers using it and showing lots of success. There've also been several posts in this thread with lots of success. Maybe not success in the initial booking but positive outcomes day of and while in the park with fiddle-faddling or playing the slots.

This is just my personal experience but the one thing that I think people like the most about the idea of pre-booking is that they didnt want to fiddle faddle and play the slots in the parks. If I am going to do that, I don't want to pre-book.

 

[jeneric997]

man, Disney replaced Genie plus which was not that great with something that is overall WORSE for most people. Amazing LOL

Except the poster came back and said they got everything they wanted.

It seems a lot of focus is being put on the negative reports of LLMP use. I have watched at least 4 different videos now of vloggers using it and showing lots of success. There've also been several posts in this thread with lots of success. Maybe not success in the initial booking but positive outcomes day of and while in the park with fiddle-faddling or playing the slots.

THIS!!! Most of the people complaining are people who haven't used the system. I understand wanting to be prepared if things don't go right, but it's like people just want the system to fail. I haven't liked any of this since the OG paper FP, but it what it is and you are not forced to use it. I worked well for us and hopefully, by the time the holiday crowd rolls in, they will have worked out some of the kinks.

 

[adizzle819]

Does anyone know what the overlap window can be when we are making our initial choices and also how much it will let you overlap with an ADR? If my lunch is at 11:30, will I not be able to get another window from 12-1? I was hoping to ride at the end of that window so that my next ride window is closer and I can ride back to back.

 

[2vets]

My consensuses is that the sky is not falling.

Dan

It seems a lot of focus is being put on the negative reports of LLMP use. I have watched at least 4 different videos now of vloggers using it and showing lots of success. There've also been several posts in this thread with lots of success. Maybe not success in the initial booking but positive outcomes day of and while in the park with fiddle-faddling or playing the slots.

Just wanted to say that if you have a prioritized ride, I think the approach I took this morning (picked Tiana only from MPLL and motored immediately to checkout, then went back to get some tier 2's knowing they'd likely be much easier to change later/day-of) gives the best chance at getting something that might be tough to modify, and at the earliest possible time.

I still prefer genie +, but I was pleasantly surprised this morning. Together with some of the videos I've seen recently, I think this system will be easily workable for most who are on Disboards doing their research!