Pixar no longer part of the family

[airlarry!]

It saddens me so much when I read people call Pixar a third-party "jobber".

Am I such a brandmonkey, such a hidden sneaux glober that I've bought into a lie?

Since the day Toy Story came out, I always saw Pixar and their loveable cast of artists and storytellers as being creative partners with Disney...an extension of the Disney storytelling legacy...a NoCal version of DFA-Florida.

I know they're a separate company, but there seemed to be such friendliness between the companies, especially considering John Lassiter's background, that I saw them as equal partners in the pioneering world of CGI, and that it was only a matter of time until the marriage became formal.

Instead of a marriage, we got a divorce.

Am I the only one that saw the fates of these two sister companies entertwined? Am I the only one that doesn't consider them "outsourcing" or "jobbers" or "third party developers?"

Doesn't anybody else want these two companies to mend their fences and become, together, the two leaders and giants in the field of Animation?

 

[Chuck S]

While I think a deal between Disney and Pixar would be a favorable situation, it certainly would depend on the deal. It must be favorable to Disney, not just an "Oh, we MUST have Pixar, no matter what the costs" deal of despiration. Pixar may be in negotiations with other studios for distribution, etc...but if the deal they were offering to Disney was "fantastic" surely someone else would have snapped it up by now.

 

[crusader]

I don't believe Pixar's promise to its' shareholders was anything short of independence. They needed a partner to grow but never intended on becoming forever entwined with anyone.

Remember how it all started. Lasseter had a vision inspired in part by Lucas and initially launched Pixar with him. They appear to be following that lead to this day.

Disney was the right fit when Pixar was a young creative think tank ripe with ideas and technical abilities but short on capital. Now that they've grown up the prospect becomes less attractive to both sides.

The divorce was inevitable. They weren't really destined to be competitors - they always were. They only partnered for a purpose and that has ultimately been fulfilled on both sides.

 

[Another Voice]

"but if the deal they were offering to Disney was "fantastic" surely someone else would have snapped it up by now."

Actually, it's Pixar that has slowed down the deal process. Word is they think the next two movie are so strong that they'll be able to cut even better deals once The Incredabiles hit's theaters. Plus, given the fact that Disney needs every penny it can get right now, there could be a chance Disney will sell it's interest in Incrediables and Cars.

Pixar is in complete control here.

 

[Bob O]

Some think(obviously blinded by unhealthly levels of pixie dust ) that Pixar should offer disney the same deal as before where Pixar created a great product anddisney benefited from the magic Pixar produced.
They forget that times have changed, Pixar has easily beaten disney at its own game in animation and no longer needs to play second fiddle to a company that has gutted its animation division and hasnt had a animated blockbuster of its own in many years while every Pixar movie has been a major hit.
This changes the playing field and Pixar deserves to get most of the profits from their creations and not Disney. Disney was happy to throw Pixar crumbs under the old deal, but sadly for disney that deal is almost over and they are unwilling to treat Pixar with the respect it has earned and deserves.

 

[dcentity2000]

Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple, Pixar and NExT is one of the richest men in the world... but has a registered $1 income in order to evade tax.

What does that tell you?

A lot of studios are 'very interested' in Pixar but ol' Jobs keeps on buying around - he's even considering opening Pixar up as an independant film studio to compete with Disney altogether.

Not that the break is a bad thing - it was needed, so Disney would get an effective booting that *should restart the creative spirit. It's just a pity Pixar walked out, that's all.

I guess in the end, the only magic that Jobs is interested in is the green kind.



Rich::

 

[Bob O]

And too think i thought you made a mistake and forgoet to use eisner instead of Jobs.
I guess what Jobs wanted to make were successfull/fun films, something disney used to be really good at.

 

[SoonerKate]

dcentity2000, could you link to some sort of proof of Jobs' $1 income? I've never heard that before.

 

[dcentity2000]

Originally posted by SoonerKate
dcentity2000, could you link to some sort of proof of Jobs' $1 income? I've never heard that before.

Easiest place to find it would be a book of world records - he's the lowest paid CEO ever. I can't remember how, but he get's money from Apple some other way, the cheeky wotsit.

Like this:

Once again, Apple pays its chief executive a symbolic salary of one dollar for a year's work. He gets a bonus, though - a Gulfstream V jet worth $43.5m

Apple Computer gave chief executive Steve Jobs $1 in regular salary and an airplane in fiscal year 2001, while other executives each received one million stock options in a down year for the Mac maker.


Cheeky monkey what he is.

He's worth millions in shares and draws wages somehow, look around and you'll find out how. That's ONE example...



Rich::

 

[WDSearcher]

Originally posted by Another Voice
"but if the deal they were offering to Disney was "fantastic" surely someone else would have snapped it up by now."

Actually, it's Pixar that has slowed down the deal process. Word is they think the next two movie are so strong that they'll be able to cut even better deals once The Incredabiles hit's theaters. Plus, given the fact that Disney needs every penny it can get right now, there could be a chance Disney will sell it's interest in Incrediables and Cars.

Pixar is in complete control here.

Well ... I've seen "The Incredibles," and it's good, but I don't think it approaches the charm of the other Pixar films. The Toy Storys and Nemo had a "warm fuzziness" about them that this one doesn't have, although it does have alot of wacky humor and a lot more action and adventure than any of the others. I'd say it's a departure for the Pixar story team, so I'll be very interested in how it does.