Pin Trading

maizeydaizey

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I thought this might fun for my kids to do (9 & 4) however I am brand new to this. How do you set a kid up for trading? Where do you buy them ahead of time? Are there guidelines on this? I am not worried about what they trade/get but want to ensure I set them up with the right type to trade. Thanks!
 
Pin trading can be a lot of fun, but it can also be very addictive and expensive! I love to trade pins and it's a major part of my trips to Disney, but I only trade with Cast Members. Essentially, you purchase some pins (there are many options for where, how, etc.) and then take them with you. You'll see CMs that are wearing lanyards (either neck or hip) of varying colors (e.g., black, maroon, green/teal). The green/teal lanyards are for trading with children only. When you see a CM with a lanyard, you just go up to them and ask if you may look at their pins. If you see one you like, you offer to trade one of your pins for that pin. Aside from a few limitations, the CMs cannot refuse a trade.

The CMs can only refuse to trade if the pin you are offering is already on their lanyard (i.e., a duplicate), if the pin is not in good condition (i.e., scratched image, broken, etc.), not a Disney pin (no Disney copyright on the back), or not a pin (i.e., buttons cannot be traded). For the CMs, they only have to trade the pins on their lanyards, so any service pins that they might be wearing on their costume or nametags are not for trading.

Disney has published some guidelines:
http://disney.go.com/eventservices/howtopintrade.pdf

In addition to the neck or hip lanyards that CMs may be wearing, you may also find pin boards or books. Those can have lots pins to look at. I've seen a board at the Frontierland Pin Trading Shop and a book at the Buena Vista Street Pin Shop on a fairly consistent basis. Other boards/books may only come out at certain times.

In terms of the CMs that wear lanyards, look in the shops, at the ride entrances, janitorial, management, and (sometimes) security. The ride operators and loaders tend not to have lanyards.

Costs: Pin trading can be very expensive, especially if you buy pins after you get to Disney. Disney sells individual pins (don't buy these for trading) and starter/booster sets. Starter/Booster sets are usually sets of 7 or so pins for about $30. If you run out of pins or decide to start trading after you've arrived, booster/starter sets are your best bet. Other sources include the Disney Stores, Disney Outlets, DisneyStore.com, etc. I would keep an eye on the DisneyStore.com's clearance section for good deals. You can also buy pins on eBay, but be careful. Those can often be scrappers/fakes, especially if they're cheap (e.g., less than a few dollars per pin).

Caveats: there are a few other things worth noting about trading. The first are the "professional" traders and the second are "scrappers".

Professional Traders: My advice is to be wary of the professional pin traders. These are the non-CM traders that are sometimes found outside of the store in Tomorrowland, Frontierland, and over in DTD (they might be elsewhere, but that's where I've seen them). These folks do not have to trade with you nor do they have to adhere to the Disney trading guidelines (e.g., one pin for one pin). I'm sure some of them are nice folks, but I would be cautious when approaching them for a trade because for many of them this is a business so they're out to get the most valuable/expensive pins possible from you. So if they will trade your pin for their's, that's probably fine. If they ask you go buy a pin or pins for them, I'd walk away. If you're new to pin trading and do not have a sense of the value (in terms of dollars) of the various pins, I'd avoid the professional traders.

Scrappers: The second issue is scrappers. For some folks this matters, for others it does not. You'll need to decide which camp you are in before you get heavily into pin trading. Basically a scrapper is a pin that looks legitimate, but is not. It can be a factory overrun (i.e., the factory was contracted to make 1 million, but they made 1.1 million instead) or a pin that has some kind of error that should have been "scrapped". You'll often be able to tell a scrapper because the colors are weird/off or the back stamp (the copy right) is wrong/missing/damaged. Others say you can tell because they feel "rough" or the edges are sharp/pronounced. Sadly, there is no sure fire way to tell a scrapper.

It's worth noting that if you do end up trading with CM, the CM lanyards tend to be filled with scrappers. So if you really dislike scrappers, I would avoid trading with CMs. That's the crux of the argument: those that dislike scrappers feel they cheapen the trading and make it not worthwhile. Those that don't care, tend to say that they like the pin, so it doesn't really matter if it's a scrapper or not (they also say that if you can't tell, does it really matter?). Both points are valid.

eBay: eBay is a popular source for pins, but it can be a tough place to buy legitimate (i.e., non-scrapper) pins. The general rule of thumb is that you buy a "lot" of pins (e.g., 25-pins) and the price per pin is less than a couple of dollars each, you're likely buying scrappers. Also, if you buy pins that come in little baggies (instead of pin cards like the ones you see at the stores in WDW/DLR), those are more likely to be scrappers as well. My recommendation is to look for sellers that are selling pins still on their backing and/or unopened booster sets (also still on their cardboard backing wrapped in plastic). In truth, unless you only buy from Disney directly, it is hard to say whether you'll get scrappers or not.
 

Great article, sad part is now I think I have a load of scrapper

We used to as well but now that we know what to look for we inspect the pins before completing the trade with the CM's. If it's suspect, we politely tell the CM that we do not wish to proceed.
 
We have been pin trading for several years- we go to Disneyland about once a month so pin trading is a great way to meet new people and make each trip special. It helps to have a few pins to get started so I would recommend buying a lanyard with a starter set or getting some from an online vendor before you go. Beware- your child will always pick a pin you don't like. But it is their choice. We always save our "expensive pins" and favorites on our lanyard and keep our "traders" in a book. When my child picks one that may not be a forever keeper, we just put it back in the trader book for next time.
 
I wear a lanyard with my collectible pins, and a hat with my tradable ones. It's a WDW "bucket-style" hat, with a band around it that's perfect for pins.
 
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Thank You so much!! Very helpful!! I am just looking for the kids to have fun with it. I will read through the link more. Now to decide where/what to buy...
 
Oh boy, I'm starting to get the itch again. I thought I'd shaken free of the Pin Addiction. Now I feel it coming back!!! :scratchin
 
Before you go, you might want to buy some locking backs. The Disney ones come with rubber ones that fall off. And they only sell locking ones that go one with a tool - very inconvenient in a fast trade with kids involved.
 
How does the pin trading at DLR compare to WDW? I'd like to know in case I need to pick up some traders before going to MNSSHP this fall.

I've been to DLR a bunch of times but haven't been since I got into pin trading for our WDW trip this past January. I thought the trading at WDW was fantastic - CM's everywhere had lanyards with a wide variety of pins and were always ready to stop and take a moment to do a trade. I got some really fun pins.

I'm just wondering if it's the same at Disneyland. My only pin-trading experience in California is at DTD - I've been there a number of times over the last three years or so and have noticed that the only CM's seem to be at the Pin Traders and World of Disney (WoD). Two or three years ago there were a number of CM's at WoD with lanyards...it's just they were kind of hard to catch because naturally they were busy at work, so it was hard to make trades. Last time I went to DTD this past spring there was only one CM in the whole store with a lanyard! When I asked why, they indicated that the CM's outside the parks weren't required to wear a lanyard as part of their uniform, so a lot of them chose not to wear one.
 
My daughter started pin trading at age 8 and my son at age 5. They both love it and I find it's a good confidence builder to approach people (usually CMs) regarding a trade. Plus the best part is that is takes care of that need to always buy something at the park. We go once a year for 5 days and we buy them souvenirs but this avoids the buying something everyday at the park since they are always getting something "new" in the form of a pin trade. I say it's a win win!



Angela
 
How does the pin trading at DLR compare to WDW? I'd like to know in case I need to pick up some traders before going to MNSSHP this fall.

I've been to DLR a bunch of times but haven't been since I got into pin trading for our WDW trip this past January. I thought the trading at WDW was fantastic - CM's everywhere had lanyards with a wide variety of pins and were always ready to stop and take a moment to do a trade. I got some really fun pins.

I'm just wondering if it's the same at Disneyland. My only pin-trading experience in California is at DTD - I've been there a number of times over the last three years or so and have noticed that the only CM's seem to be at the Pin Traders and World of Disney (WoD). Two or three years ago there were a number of CM's at WoD with lanyards...it's just they were kind of hard to catch because naturally they were busy at work, so it was hard to make trades. Last time I went to DTD this past spring there was only one CM in the whole store with a lanyard! When I asked why, they indicated that the CM's outside the parks weren't required to wear a lanyard as part of their uniform, so a lot of them chose not to wear one.


I see a fair amount of CMs around the park wearing Lanyards. It varies greatly though. Somedays it seems like almost none are wearing them, other days they are easy to spot
 
My 5 yr old loves to trade and can spot a CM lanyard a mile away. Trust me, there are plenty around the parks to trade with and a lot out at the esplanade too.
 
How does the pin trading at DLR compare to WDW? I'd like to know in case I need to pick up some traders before going to MNSSHP this fall.
I generally had pretty good luck with pin trading in DLR. Along with the CMs that are wearing lanyards, there are also several shops with pin boards. Most are small boards, but Frontierland has a large pin wheel. I tend to feel that DTD is the weakest location to trade, but sometimes you get lucky with WoD and the pin shop. In June, there was a small pin trading board inside WoD (there as an information station and it was there). I think WDW has more pin trading, but that's because there are more CMs and shops on property. I enjoy pin trading in both resorts.
 
Last Saturday, we were walking past Rancho Del Zocalo in Disneyland, and there was a man and a woman sitting at a table with these huge cases full of pins. I've never seen anything like it. DD isn't in to pin trading yet, so I'm not really familiar with how it works. But why would you want to lug hundreds of those things around with you??
 
Last Saturday, we were walking past Rancho Del Zocalo in Disneyland, and there was a man and a woman sitting at a table with these huge cases full of pins. I've never seen anything like it. DD isn't in to pin trading yet, so I'm not really familiar with how it works. But why would you want to lug hundreds of those things around with you??


Professional Traders: My advice is to be wary of the professional pin traders. These are the non-CM traders that are sometimes found outside of the store in Tomorrowland, Frontierland, and over in DTD (they might be elsewhere, but that's where I've seen them). These folks do not have to trade with you nor do they have to adhere to the Disney trading guidelines (e.g., one pin for one pin). I'm sure some of them are nice folks, but I would be cautious when approaching them for a trade because for many of them this is a business so they're out to get the most valuable/expensive pins possible from you. So if they will trade your pin for their's, that's probably fine. If they ask you go buy a pin or pins for them, I'd walk away. If you're new to pin trading and do not have a sense of the value (in terms of dollars) of the various pins, I'd avoid the professional traders.

That's mostly where the "Pin Traders" hang out now that the "official" trade tables are gone. Although some of them can be intimidating, I've also found some of them to be quite friendly and nice. I also made quite a few good/fair trades with them.
 
How does the pin trading at DLR compare to WDW? I'd like to know in case I need to pick up some traders before going to MNSSHP this fall.

We did lots of trading on our summer DL trip. We found a ton of pin boards and CMs with lanyards in the parks, at the resorts, and throughout downtown Disney. DD picked up a couple of really nice pins trading in DTD. We did see a lot of the same hidden mickey pins, but a lot of them were the sets that had come out pretty recently. Also, we find that we get a lot fewer scrappers in our trading at DL, than we do at WDW. DD trades for what she likes, and I would say most of what she got at DL was real, and most of what she got at WDW was scrapper. We did run into a few adult pin traders with bad behavior at DL, and we have never experienced that at WDW. DD, 8, was waiting patiently in line for some time for her turn to trade at a pin board with two people in front of her. She mentioned the pin she wanted and that she hoped they did not take it so that she could get it. The adult male behind her in line heard her and obviously wanted that one because when the person in front of her moved, he shoved in front of DD with a pin ready in his hand and in one move shoved the pin in the board and grabbed the one she wanted and took off in a hurry. It was clearly intentional. Poor DD couldn't believe an adult would do that to her. There were tears. We saw a few adults exhibiting some not so nice behavior.
 
Last Saturday, we were walking past Rancho Del Zocalo in Disneyland, and there was a man and a woman sitting at a table with these huge cases full of pins. I've never seen anything like it. DD isn't in to pin trading yet, so I'm not really familiar with how it works. But why would you want to lug hundreds of those things around with you??

As elaw said those are what I called the "Professional Pin Traders". They bring in their binders/books/cases to show off their collections and to trade pins. I've had the opposite experience as elaw, which is why I tend to warn newbie traders away from dealing with them unless you know a lot about the financial value of the pins.
 

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