Pet store dogs

I love my Cockapoo :lovestruc he's sweet, very loving and I wouldn't trade him for anything. He didn't cost me anymore than my beagle did and he's very smart and such a big baby.:love: :love:

When I was about 10 years old people up the road from us had a female Poodle and a male cocker spaniel who had puppies. I can still remember begging my parents for one of them so one day they took me up to pick one out. Some of them looked like full bred poodles and some of them looked like full bred cocker spaniel The one I picked out was a mixture I am not kidding the back end of him was curly like a poodle and the middle of his back the hair was straight he was the funniest looking dog I have ever seen. :lmao: He was the best dog that we ever had. I could cry every time I think about him he lived to be about 18. After he died, my dad always said when he went to heaven he hoped that Skeezer (dogs name) would be the first person to meet him there. Well my dad passed away two years ago and I really hope they are finally together again.
 
When I was about 10 years old people up the road from us had a female Poodle and a male cocker spaniel who had puppies. I can still remember begging my parents for one of them so one day they took me up to pick one out. Some of them looked like full bred poodles and some of them looked like full bred cocker spaniel The one I picked out was a mixture I am not kidding the back end of him was curly like a poodle and the middle of his back the hair was straight he was the funniest looking dog I have ever seen. :lmao: He was the best dog that we ever had. I could cry every time I think about him he lived to be about 18. After he died, my dad always said when he went to heaven he hoped that Skeezer (dogs name) would be the first person to meet him there. Well my dad passed away two years ago and I really hope they are finally together again.

I had a yorkiepoo, years ago. He was a perfect mix. His hair was the texture of a poodle's but, straight like a yorkie. It was nice...no shedding. He had a wonderful personality.
 
When I was about 10 years old people up the road from us had a female Poodle and a male cocker spaniel who had puppies. I can still remember begging my parents for one of them so one day they took me up to pick one out. Some of them looked like full bred poodles and some of them looked like full bred cocker spaniel The one I picked out was a mixture I am not kidding the back end of him was curly like a poodle and the middle of his back the hair was straight he was the funniest looking dog I have ever seen. :lmao: He was the best dog that we ever had. I could cry every time I think about him he lived to be about 18. After he died, my dad always said when he went to heaven he hoped that Skeezer (dogs name) would be the first person to meet him there. Well my dad passed away two years ago and I really hope they are finally together again.

I believe they are!:grouphug:

When DS15 was younger he had A LOT of energy. We bought a travel trailer and did a lot of camping then. This way he could run a lot, and at night he wasn't checking out a new motel room, but the same campere as always and his same bed. One year there was a beautiful but very fat golden retriever laying down next to a campsite as we were coming back from the beach. We asked to pet him, and he stood up when he realized he had company. OMG that dog had feet that were about 4 inches long! (and just as wide!) He was a Basset/golden mix! He looked like a fat, short, golden sheep! He was so precious. All Golden body and face, basset feet/legs covered in golden fur. His muscle structure was also thick like a bassets, but his ears were very retriever.
 
I completely agree. I bet many (not all, many) of the shelter dogs we see/are fostered out started out from a good breeder, but they ended up with bad "parents". The bad parents put them in the shelter.


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The problem with this quote is a "good breeder" always takes back an unwanted animal. I have 2 collies I bought from a breeder. It is specifically in my contract , that if for any reason I can no longer care for either dog I am to return them to their breeder.

My friend breeds Shelties. Same with her, its in her contract also. She has taken dogs back also, and has either kept them or found them another home if she was able.

I know there will be a few that slip through the cracks, but there are many many pure breds that go to shelters, so I would guess the majority aren't from good breeders, but from backyard breeders out for a quick buck who could care less where their pups are now.
 

What happens when the breeder is no longer breeding? Or has moved? Or some other circumstance arises that they can't take the dog back? I'm sure there are many reasons that dogs go to the shelter. We really do need to place ownership where ownership is due. If you can't take care of a dog, don't get one. Right now, I'm not in a position to take care of a dog, I have to travel around the country to see doctors for my medical condition. I can't have one, much as my heart is telling me to. If more people thought like this, less pets would go to the shelter because they would be able and ready to take care of the animal. Breeders would have less of a demand to put out animals because people would be making conscious decisions, not just decisions of the heart. Just because a breeder has that clause, doesn't mean that the owner will follow it, or is able to follow it.
 
What happens when the breeder is no longer breeding? Or has moved? Or some other circumstance arises that they can't take the dog back?

Then a good breeder makes other arrangements. I've been around the show world most of my life, so I've been around good and bad breeders. And yea there are quite a few bad breeders out there who do show at dog shows have champions, breed those champions then don't give a crap where they go.

A lady I know who's in her 70's now who used to breed Weims's made other arrangements for a friend of hers who also breeds to take any animals that may be returned, plus of all the years I've known her, she's only had a few litters of pups. Not a litter or 2 a year trying to find that "perfect champion".

And I totally agree with you that a person needs to be responsible for the animal they agree to care for their whole life. Its very very sad. I used to work with collie rescue and to hear some of the lame excuses these people would come up with for surrendering the dog made me want to scream. For example, "The dog is too big" "It sheds" " It barks a lot"
Research people and make the right decision. That cute little puppy is going to grow up and need discipline and care for its whole life, just not when its convenient .
 
Lets think about this logically though. If they don't have the foresight to know what to do to take care of the dog, are they really going to seek out the breeder again? Or seek out the breeders alternative? Probably not. They seek the path of least resistance, which is the shelter.
 
We saw puppies in a pet shop when we were in a mall in Vegas.. They were cute of course but it did make me sad as it's just not something that's done over here and I don't think it's right.
 
Lets think about this logically though. If they don't have the foresight to know what to do to take care of the dog, are they really going to seek out the breeder again? Or seek out the breeders alternative? Probably not. They seek the path of least resistance, which is the shelter.

And if thats the case then they weren't responsible dog owners to begin with, but I guess we already know that if they are taking their dog to a shelter.

Not to beat a dead horse, so to speak, but i also keep in touch with my breeder. Since I don't show as often anymore and the breeder doesn't see "her" dogs I own now at shows anymore, I send her a picture a couple times a year, plus we chat on the phone.
 
It still falls back to the breeder. A good responsible breeder doesn't hand over a living being to anyone with the cash in hand. They ask for applications. They check in on the animal. Most importantly, they REQUIRE the person to return the animal to them if they can't care for it.

Dogs sitting on death row aren't bred by good breeders. Good breeders take back their dogs if the owner can no longer keep them (and have a legally binding contract to ensure that).

How the dog ends up in the shelter depends more on if they had a Good Owner. Just because you put something in a contract doesn't mean the person signing it will follow it's instructions.

I think every dog and cat here NOW needs a home....more regulation needs to be done to ensure these backyard breeders aren't churning out dogs with serious health issues.

My lab who was 14 years old when we losts her was from a backyard breeder. Did I know what that was then? Nope. She showed us pictures of the dad and mom with all their ribbons from whatever apparently hokie shows she had them in, and we met the Mom who was sweet.
She had dysplasia,arthitis,Cushings Disease,Cancer, some thing Labs get where their throat closes up, and the sweetest personality of any dog you would ever meet. She cost me thousands of dollars in vet bills, heartache, a few rugs and a boyfriend who didn't like dogs ( good riddance!).

I wouldn't have changed a thing, and knowing what I know now, would do it all again for her. Those dogs that end up in the shelter are coming down a winding road from the puppy mill. Would I go directly there to get one? No way. I'd end up with them all. I just think all of them need a chance at a good home.
 
I have always and probably will always adopt mutts. I didn't realize that many pet stores still had dogs for sale! I don't think there are any around here that do, unless it's up closer to Pittsburgh. I haven't seen a dog in a pet store in years. I will make a confession, though -- I did buy a mutt from a pet store when I was 18. He was the cutest little thing, just a round chubby little ball of fur, and only cost maybe $15 or $20. I didn't know about backyard breeders or puppy mills back then. With the price so low for him, maybe he wasn't from one of those. I like to think not.
 
Just because a dog is at a pet store, does not mean that the breeder is unethical.

It absolutely does -- it goes against every code of ethics of every single breed club in the country. The best you can hope for is that the breeder is so ignorant that they don't see the implications of treating dogs as merchandise (available to the first person who whips out a VISA, with no regard as to what their likelihood of taking care of the pup is). And that ignorance has other implications, because anybody who thinks it's fine to sell their puppies at a pet store to whoever also was not doing the vigorous health testing that all ethical breeders will do to try to weed out health problems.

Breeding dogs carries with it cradle to grave responsibility for that puppy.I've had them come back at 5 years old when somebody's life imploded on them. Friends who breed more than I do have had dogs come back due to death, divorce, or just hard times. You might get the call the morning of your mom's funeral, or the day after your husband says he wants a divorce. You take the dog back ANYWAY (or call on friends to help you out).

I will say that there are owners who know their contract says that the dog goes back to them if at any time they can't keep the dog, but who put it in rescue, anyway. That's where being active in breed rescue helps, because the rescue people will simply call the breeder and the breeder will take the dog from rescue. This is the reason I personally microchip puppies before placementwith my own information (and the new owner's as secondary information) so that if they ever get into the shelter system I hopefully will be made aware of it.

You can only do the best you can do as a conscientious hobby breeder, but it's no exaggeration to say that there simply is no way to ethically raise dogs as commercial livestock. And dogs in chain petstores are raised as livestock. And yes, that pup does deserve a loving home... but before you buy it, consider his mother in a cage in Pennsylvania or Missouri. She'll never leave that cage until she's infertile or dies. And if the orders from pet stores keep coming in, her daughters will be in the cages beside her.

Giving money to stores that sell dogs is directly profiting people who treat dogs like veal calves (and many people who feel sorry for mall store dogs would never touch veal with a ten foot pole). Your best bet is to stay out of the store entirely (not buying even a milkbone there) but if you do fall for an adorable puppy face, go in and leave your contact information and offer to take the dog off their hands if it doesn't sell, so that it doesn't get returned to the mill or euthanized. That way you will be doing the dog a favor and not helping the mills profit from it.
 
I understand it's best not to buy a dog from these kinds of places. But what happens if people don't? What becomes of the dogs then?? In a perfect world there would be no "pet stores", but since there seem to still be some around I think not buying the dogs just because of where they come from doesn't help much either.

We're not talking about a dress that comes from a store we don't like. If the dress doesn't sell it gets passed on to Goodwill or donated. If a puppy doesn't sell, I hate to think of what would happen. :sad2:

They go to the shelter. Not buying DOES help - they lose money if the dog doesn't sell. If the dogs sell, they get more dogs, the puppy mills make money, breed more dogs. The only way to stop the puppy mills is to stop supporting them financially - stop buying these puppies! :confused:
 
I have always and probably will always adopt mutts. I didn't realize that many pet stores still had dogs for sale! I don't think there are any around here that do, unless it's up closer to Pittsburgh. I haven't seen a dog in a pet store in years. I will make a confession, though -- I did buy a mutt from a pet store when I was 18. He was the cutest little thing, just a round chubby little ball of fur, and only cost maybe $15 or $20. I didn't know about backyard breeders or puppy mills back then. With the price so low for him, maybe he wasn't from one of those. I like to think not.

Not sure where you are Mushy, but unfortunately there is still a Pet Store that sells puppies at ParkWay Center Mall right outside of Pittsburgh. (at least it was open last time I was there) The pet shop at Century 3 mall closed, thank goodness.
 
You should have chosen the shelter dog rather than support an unethical breeder.

#1) I have a Pitt Mix, she is by far the best dog I have ever had.

#2) There is no reason to mix a Jack Russell and a Rat Terrier and then sell it in a pet shop. I don't need to live in your town to know this. This is simply common sense.

Wow :scared1: Judgmental much? All of the above is your opinion and not a fact. Even your part about the "unethical breeder" is your opinion - you don't know that to be a fact, even if you like to think that you do. I think you should back off with the insults to Hockeymom. Not cool.
 
So why don't you go up to her and have a conversation about your strong feelings towards her breeding? Wouldn't that be a better thing to do than to just hide your feelings? :confused3

If she were someone I would otherwise consider a friend, that might be a worthwhile conversation to have. As it is though, she is a person I have exactly one thing in common with...a dd on a cheer team.

Before this puppy breeding business, she and her dh hopped from one temporary way of earning money to another, like pretending to be fundraising to run a concession stand at different events.

The puppy enterprise began with the purchase of an entire litter from a flea market (which they got a deal on), then a mark up of the individual puppies. She is not a conscientious breeder, breeding to better a breed. She is simply in it for the money. And honestly, I don't think she could even grasp the concept that creating more dogs has an impact on the ones already filling our shelters.
 
Wow :scared1: Judgmental much? All of the above is your opinion and not a fact. Even your part about the "unethical breeder" is your opinion - you don't know that to be a fact, even if you like to think that you do. I think you should back off with the insults to Hockeymom. Not cool.

Did you read any other posts other than mine? Many people involved with breeding, showing and rescuing have expressed the same opinion as mine.

I stand by every word I said.
 
Did you read any other posts other than mine? Many people involved with breeding, showing and rescuing have expressed the same opinion as mine.

I stand by every word I said.

What you said is still opinion and not fact. Still not cool to insult other's like that.
 
And if thats the case then they weren't responsible dog owners to begin with, but I guess we already know that if they are taking their dog to a shelter.

Not to beat a dead horse, so to speak, but i also keep in touch with my breeder. Since I don't show as often anymore and the breeder doesn't see "her" dogs I own now at shows anymore, I send her a picture a couple times a year, plus we chat on the phone.

Even good dog owners don't keep in contact with their breeders. None of my friends do. My parents and I don't. Why would we? It's our dog. We're not showing it, it's just our pet. I would hazard a guess to say it's like that with most people.
 


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