"Other Rumored Lands" @ DHS

[dogdangling]

I thought they were redoing it because Hulk became insanely rough over the years?

The ride was a bit rough and a bit of a headbanger, its good to see them keeping the attractions up to date.

 

[Eoghann]

The contract which is air tight clearly states what the completed park will be and as long as universal wants they can keep the marvel rights in Orlando. However they have to keep the attractions is a first class manner. Also the final park is clearly described as a two gate park. If Universal decides to have a third gate there will have to be an adjustment to the contract. Marvel could not be expected to let their IP become less important in the theme park they signed the contract with.

A contract cannot be "air tight" and require attractions "shall be operated and maintained in a first class manner consistent with the highest standards of the theme park industry". That's an incredibly vague statement. What is first class? Does Space Mountain count for example? If so then Universal really don't have to do much upkeep at all.

Do you have a legal background? You are making categorical statements about the contract which I suspect you can't really back up not least because unless you were a signatory to the contract any versions of it you have seen are incomplete. My reading of that 2nd gate language is that it simple designates where the Marvel attractions will be. In which case no adjustment is required at all.

I'm not a lawyer, I do however administrate subcontracts for a living.

 

[PuppyJonathan]

...and back to the thread.

I didn't think there were any other "lands" to built at HS (nor the land to). I guess once the 2 lands are done they could change other areas of the Park, but that is pure conjecture and I would imagine quite a ways off, if at all.

I for one am optimistic that there is something more than just Star Wars and Toy Story at MGM (don't care that it's DHS, I'm going to call it MGM to the day I die). It's one of those ones only time can tell whether or not we get something new. Besides there's so much open room there and with both new lands having no definite place where exactly they're going I think we could be seeing more coming (I'm pretty sure Toy Story Land is going behind what is Pixar Place now but I just saw a fan image of it going over by LMA. While I doubt it considering how much of Mania's show building was in the concept art I'm not ruling it out)

 

[rteetz]

...and back to the thread.

I didn't think there were any other "lands" to built at HS (nor the land to). I guess once the 2 lands are done they could change other areas of the Park, but that is pure conjecture and I would imagine quite a ways off, if at all.

DHS does have the space for more and at least a third land is being seriously considered. A fourth is also in blue sky if all goes well.

 

[rteetz]

I for one am optimistic that there is something more than just Star Wars and Toy Story at MGM (don't care that it's DHS, I'm going to call it MGM to the day I die). It's one of those ones only time can tell whether or not we get something new. Besides there's so much open room there and with both new lands having no definite place where exactly they're going I think we could be seeing more coming (I'm pretty sure Toy Story Land is going behind what is Pixar Place now but I just saw a fan image of it going over by LMA. While I doubt it considering how much of Mania's show building was in the concept art I'm not ruling it out)

LMA is the site for the third phase.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

...and back to the thread.

I didn't think there were any other "lands" to built at HS (nor the land to). I guess once the 2 lands are done they could change other areas of the Park, but that is pure conjecture and I would imagine quite a ways off, if at all.

Yeah...we way ahead of ourselves if we think there's more anywhere close to reality. Conjecture?...probably...plan?...not close.

These things have do be funded, built, received, and then evaluated for acceptance/profitability.

That's a minimum 10 year process for twdc. That's under the best of circumstances.

 

[rteetz]

Yeah...we way ahead of ourselves if we think there's more anywhere close to reality. Conjecture?...probably...plan?...not close.

These things have do be funded, built, received, and then evaluated for acceptance/profitability.

That's a minimum 10 year process for twdc. That's under the best of circumstances.

I know what you think but a third land is in the plans. Phase four would be the one that's unlikely.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

LMA is the site for the third phase.

They could easily take advantage of the heavy construction to hold the site...keep it as reserve...and then use it for support facilities as a placeholder for the future.

Doesn't guarantee anything interesting ever gets built.

 

[rteetz]

They could easily take advantage of the heavy construction to hold the site...keep it as reserve...and then use it for support facilities as a placeholder for the future.

Doesn't guarantee anything interesting ever gets built.

From the latest things I've heard they are starting realize they need capacity and with Star Wars not coming on right away they are going to need something done. It could end being that Star Wars is the last thing that opens and toy story and "phase 3" get built first. It will be interesting to watch but initially that area will be staging for toy story.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I know what you think but a third land is in the plans. Phase four would be the one that's unlikely.

Yes...you may be right...but you need to concede that "plans" doesn't mean much of anything. They really don't. That's step one - the easy step - to talk about it.

Steps 2 through 100 are much stickier

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

What is the phase 3 land? I hope they go with another heavily themed Pixar land. Hell, they could have opened up another park and called it Pixar studios. I'd love to be immersed in a lot of those movies.

 

[Donaldb112]

An expansion of the Pixar Studios are would be extremely ideal. I'd love to see the Monsters Inc. coaster come to fruition, as well as Crush's Coaster and an attraction having to do with Inside Out. There's so many options with Pixar attractions, which is why I'm confused why Disney has taken so long to create them.

Hopefully this expansion will bring some amazing new Pixar attractions to the park!

 

[rteetz]

What is the phase 3 land? I hope they go with another heavily themed Pixar land. Hell, they could have opened up another park and called it Pixar studios. I'd love to be immersed in a lot of those movies.

Monsters inc is the rumor.

 

[lugnut33]

Keep in mind there is really no immediate need for Disney to do anything quickly or expensive since WDW is humming along quite nicely from an investors perspective.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

An expansion of the Pixar Studios are would be extremely ideal. I'd love to see the Monsters Inc. coaster come to fruition, as well as Crush's Coaster and an attraction having to do with Inside Out.

That's why I like the idea of a variety of Pixar, though as others have pointed out at least at this time this is not quite the way they are pursuing, because instead of focusing on just one story they can have a multitude of stories to tell and share pleasing a wide variety of people as well as ages.

 

[rteetz]

Keep in mind there is really no immediate need for Disney to do anything quickly or expensive since WDW is humming along quite nicely from an investors perspective.

From an investors perspective they don't give a crap about WDW right now. Investors are worried about ESPN and cable cutters.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Keep in mind there is really no immediate need for Disney to do anything quickly or expensive since WDW is humming along quite nicely from an investors perspective.

Well...the Walt Disney company has lost over 25% of its stock value in the last 6 months...
Some of that is systemic and cyclical...

However a large chunk is the prospect of investing heavily in a collapsing market in China - which investment fools have been promoting for years as being "ripe for investment" (to which I always assumed because they're not saddled with the burden of fair pay and workers are easier to find than paper towels), taking on the burden of what can only be described as a failed investment in park franchising in Paris, and the loss of nearly free cash after people have begun to awake from the funk of watching Chris Berman talk about games his network never airs...and very horrible college football.

Disney parks account for 31% of the revenue...that's gonna have to rise if Iger is gonna retire with enough cash to buy a private island...like Greenland or Maui.

So while I am the LAST to say they NEED to build anything in Florida...for 10 years they couldn't seem to give a crap...expanding walt Disney world might be a feasible avenue to go. It makes more money for Disney than Star Wars...which just proves how much we've been overpaying.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

That's why I like the idea of a variety of Pixar, though as others have pointed out at least at this time this is not quite the way they are pursuing, because instead of focusing on just one story they can have a multitude of stories to tell and share pleasing a wide variety of people as well as ages.

Pixar for a very long time was unique...like from 1995-2008.

It's not quite as sure fire as it once was. Still profitable with good characters to draw on...but the last few years has seen some diminishing success.
Topped off by the first flop this fall.

It will be interesting to see how the finding nemo sequel does...which is probably the best overall movie...though that's a matter of opinion.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Pixar for a very long time was unique...like from 1995-2008.

It's not quite as sure fire as it once was. Still profitable with good characters to draw on...but the last few years has seen some diminishing success.
Topped off by the first flop this fall.

It will be interesting to see how the finding nemo sequel does...which is probably the best overall movie...though that's a matter of opinion.

Yeah you're right Pixar was def. on a roll for a while. I'm actually interested myself on how well Finding Dory goes. I loved Finding Nemo however it's been 13 years since Finding Nemo came out. Sometimes sequels do quite well after all that time and othertimes people have just lost interest in it and what's interesting about this one to me is because kids who watched the first one aren't kids anymore.

 

[PuppyJonathan]

An expansion of the Pixar Studios are would be extremely ideal. I'd love to see the Monsters Inc. coaster come to fruition, as well as Crush's Coaster and an attraction having to do with Inside Out. There's so many options with Pixar attractions, which is why I'm confused why Disney has taken so long to create them.

Hopefully this expansion will bring some amazing new Pixar attractions to the park!

I for one DESPERATELY want an Inside Out ride. Personally if they do a Pixar "land" I hope they do more than just Toy Story because everything mentioned before (Monsters, Inside Out, Cars) just screams theme park potential. Even though WALL-E isn't in the public consensus anymore it too could make for an interesting attraction. Point is I don't think they should limit themselves to just Toy Story and maybe keep Pixar Place for the others

Now as for whether or not Pixar is still on fire, I think it personally is. Yes yes Good Dinosaur is it's first true failure financially. How I look at it, it barely got to play as once Star Wars opened, it took away screens from several movies, Good Dinosaur loosing some 30,000 showings because of it (source: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/counts/chart/?yr=2015&wk=51&p=.htm). As far as publicity for this one, I barely saw anything. The trailers were quietly launched I don't even know when and there weren't that many to boot. Most of the articles were based off of all the troubles that were faced during productions and not based on excitement for the movie. In all honesty looking back at it, Good Dinosaur maybe like Mars Needs Moms or Strange Magic where they just had to release it even though they knew it wasn't going to do so well. Just because they had one failure I don't think means Pixar fever burnt down. Heck it's not like Pixar is going through what Dreamworks' 2014 was for them