OT: jon and Kate + 8 new house?

[tam626]

I do remember Kate saying if the kids needed anything, they had to knock on their bedroom door, not just walk in anytime, as they had before. I think she was trying to get them to understand their need for privacy & I think they are old enough. They're almost 5. I really don't believe she meant they could never ever come in the bedroom.

 

[ilandrazdsw]

You know, I've never thought about that. They like to show the kids shoving eachother and screaming and run around.... not sleeping or getting read to. They want to show how crazy their life is. They're gonna use the craziest footage they can get.

And the fridge.... I didn't really see what the big deal was. I think she overreacted (like she does to most things). I mean.... who really cleans the refrigerator that often? To do so, you have to take all of the food out and it gets hot and goes bad. The only time it's really necessary (imo) is when something is spilled in there. Then empty the shelf and the one below it and wipe up the mess. Germaphobes annoy me. A little dirt doesn't do much harm. Sure, the fridge was dirty and she had to clean it.... but she didn't have to make such a big deal about it.

I like the house, though. It's a nice house.

How many of us parents have children that test us all day? At the end of the night when my 2 are asleep in bed it is easier to remember what little blessings they are. To me the kids are loosing the "it" factor on the show (Kinda like when Michelle grew up on Full House) because they are no longer adorable little babies...they are now adorable little kids that act like little kids with the good, bad, and gross. Maybe rather than ending each episode with the parents (I think they do, can't remember) they should show all the kids quite and asleep in their beds.

My mom would say she would clean the fridge when her mom would come. It may have REALLY needed it. If the house was closed up for awhile who knows what may have started to grow even if the previous owners had given it a good cleaning.

 

[playswithstars]

I do remember Kate saying if the kids needed anything, they had to knock on their bedroom door, not just walk in anytime, as they had before. I think she was trying to get them to understand their need for privacy & I think they are old enough. They're almost 5. I really don't believe she meant they could never ever come in the bedroom.

She said they could knock on the door and wait there but they were never to step inside the actual room.

 

[pixiefairy]

I was reading a some gossip rag magazine while working out the other day..and there was a blurb in there about how Kate asked Collin what character he wanted to be from television while they were playing (probably for something having to do with the show, idk). He answered her "Collin".

Um...ok, so now they have gone from being kids to Collin being a character on a television show. It's really saddening. You know, I have a good amount of kids, and even though we have tried to tell them not to come in unless it's an emergency, it just isn't in our natures to ignore them or NEVER let them come in. And we do end up in a puppy pile of kids most mornings, but some day, they will outgrow this and we will be alone in our beds, wondering where the time went when they WANTED to cuddle and be near us.

 

[PiperPizzaz]

Wow, I didn't think the house was THAT nice!

That thing about the room...I think good for them! We weren't allowed to just walk into my parents room when I was growing up. When my Ds is a little older I am going to do the same thing. You have to knock.

 

[ilandrazdsw]

Is that going to be the next trend for halloween...reality show characters for kids? YIKES!!!!!
Whenever DD3 was greeted as a princess as WDW (both in costume and stree clothes) she woudl say, "I'm not a princess, I'm Angel." And she has been an angel for Halloween too.

 

[tam626]

I gathered from what Kate said, there was a lot of mold in the fridge.
I try not to judge since I have never been in their shoes. I know my 3 1/2 year old drives me nuts alot of days so having that times 6? Not sure how nice I would come across from just a few hours of video in a whole week. I'm sure it would'nt be pretty.

 

[playswithstars]

Wow, I didn't think the house was THAT nice!

That thing about the room...I think good for them! We weren't allowed to just walk into my parents room when I was growing up. When my Ds is a little older I am going to do the same thing. You have to knock.

But are you going to tell your DS that he can't even step foot in there ever even after knocking and you opening the door? She told the kids to enjoy it because they would never step foot in here again without severe consequences.

 

[Halbleib1]

Wow were we wrong...

Turns out the family has 14 kids under the age of 7, and a single mom no less. Now I really do smell a reality show...

Yeah I just saw that on Anderson Cooper last night. Seems the mother is obsessed with having kids according to her mom. She has never been married she had all her kids through a sperm donor. Since she had frozen embryos left she had them all implanted and thats how she ended up with 8 kids at once. Some Drs are really upset about another Dr doing this knowing that she already had other kids. Not to mention implanting so many embryos at once. According to her mom she got paid for having her other kids somehow. Her mom asked her how she could afford invetro while going to school and that is what she told her. When she was a teenager she found out she couldn't have kids the natural way and has been obsessed ever since. This is what her mom told Anderson Cooper at least. Her mom told her that when she comes home from the hospital she is on her own because she is leaving. Her mom is watching the other kids right now.

What other way is she going to have to take care of these kids other than a lot of volunteers and freebies or a "reality" show. I feel sorry for all of her kids because it is going to be really rough for all of them.

 

[Halbleib1]

I just watched a video of an interview that Jon did with a reporter out in Utah and he said he is a stay at home dad now. This interview was filmed recently and not while they were there on vacation. Kate and the kids were at home and not with him on this trip. He said that Kate works outside the home doing interviews and such for her book. He said she has two more books about to come out not counting Multiple Blessings which is already out. This lady really went after him and asked about what they have planned when the show ends and he said that they are working on other projects but did not say what. He said the money from the show is for the kids.

Full Interview available here:
http://www.blinkx.com/videos/channel%3ACBSUtah+News%3Acategory/61 - 87k -

 

[PiperPizzaz]

But are you going to tell your DS that he can't even step foot in there ever even after knocking and you opening the door? She told the kids to enjoy it because they would never step foot in here again without severe consequences.

Maybe, maybe not but, my house. He has entire run of the house right now. It made it a little hard to hide Christmas presents when he even has run in my walk in closet. He is only 3 right now though, so maybe in another year he will be 'kicked out'. He will only about 1700 square feet to roam around then poor child.

 

[miprender]

Yeah I just saw that on Anderson Cooper last night. Seems the mother is obsessed with having kids according to her mom. She has never been married she had all her kids through a sperm donor. Since she had frozen embryos left she had them all implanted and thats how she ended up with 8 kids at once. Some Drs are really upset about another Dr doing this knowing that she already had other kids. Not to mention implanting so many embryos at once. According to her mom she got paid for having her other kids somehow. Her mom asked her how she could afford invetro while going to school and that is what she told her. When she was a teenager she found out she couldn't have kids the natural way and has been obsessed ever since. This is what her mom told Anderson Cooper at least. Her mom told her that when she comes home from the hospital she is on her own because she is leaving. Her mom is watching the other kids right now.

What other way is she going to have to take care of these kids other than a lot of volunteers and freebies or a "reality" show. I feel sorry for all of her kids because it is going to be really rough for all of them.

I read it on Yahoo about her wanting all these kids I don't know something doesnt sound right here?? I think shes only 31 lives at home with all these children

As for JK8 I've only watched a few episodes and I don't like Jon either. But I seem to always see the show when they went shopping for beds and one of the kids was having a problem going #2 I have my own issues with potty training DS3 I didnt need to see it on tv.

 

[Halbleib1]

I read it on Yahoo about her wanting all these kids I don't know something doesnt sound right here?? I think shes only 31 lives at home with all these children

As for JK8 I've only watched a few episodes and I don't like Jon either. But I seem to always see the show when they went shopping for beds and one of the kids was having a problem going #2 I have my own issues with potty training DS3 I didnt need to see it on tv.

Her mom told Anderson Cooper that she kicked her daughter out of the house at some point when she was a teenager because her psychiatrist told her to. The mother was depressed from her daughters obsession with having kids and didn't know what to do about it. So she is definately not living with her mom. The mother is staying at the daughters place taking care of the kids while she is in the hospital. She told her daughter when she gets home that she is out of there and is not going to help her raise the kids.

 

[MickeyMomOfThree]

I heard a doctor on Fox News this morning talking about the mom who just had the octuplets. He said he hopes that they don't make them into a reality show. He went on to say making these shows basically makes others want to get their own show. I loved that he said that. I also jsut heard she is asking for $2 million for her story (from Oprah or Diane Sawyer), and looking to do commercials for extra cash.

I was off the computer for most of the weekend, but I wanted to add my $.02 on 2 things PPs talked about. First, out bedroom is privte when we need it to be. Our policy is if the door is open, it's open, and if it's closed, you need to knock and wait for an answer. Many mornings my youngest (she's 7) comes in around 5am to cuddle mom and dad for an hour before we have to get up. We love it, let me tell you. We loved it with our oldest, she's 14, and missed it when it stopped. I'm not going to tell my baby that she can't come it, it will be over before we know it and we will be missing it. As for "private" time, we have pleanty of it, when we need it we close the door, and you know, for the most part, they see the door closed and they don't even bother us unless it is important.

As for condensing hours of show to minutes, I get that, but the fact is she ats just as nasty (and he just as wimpy) during the interviews which make me think most of the time they are like that. I could be wrong and you are all right, I wouldn't want camers cating me in my bad moments, but then again, I wouldn't sell my sole (and privacy), so i don't need to worry about that.

 

[kathi29]

And the fridge.... I didn't really see what the big deal was. I think she overreacted (like she does to most things). I mean.... who really cleans the refrigerator that often? To do so, you have to take all of the food out and it gets hot and goes bad. The only time it's really necessary (imo) is when something is spilled in there. Then empty the shelf and the one below it and wipe up the mess. Germaphobes annoy me. A little dirt doesn't do much harm. Sure, the fridge was dirty and she had to clean it.... but she didn't have to make such a big deal about it.

I'm thinking the fridge could have been gross even if it was cleaned when the previous owners left. If the power was off in the house, and the fridge door was not left open, that would be a huge breeding ground for mold and mildew.

 

[ilandrazdsw]

First, out bedroom is privte when we need it to be. Our policy is if the door is open, it's open, and if it's closed, you need to knock and wait for an answer. Many mornings my youngest (she's 7) comes in around 5am to cuddle mom and dad for an hour before we have to get up. We love it, let me tell you. We loved it with our oldest, she's 14, and missed it when it stopped. I'm not going to tell my baby that she can't come it, it will be over before we know it and we will be missing it. As for "private" time, we have pleanty of it, when we need it we close the door, and you know, for the most part, they see the door closed and they don't even bother us unless it is important.

We sleep with our doors closed (4 cats...need I say more). SO DS & DD know they are allowed to come in the room even if the door is closed. If we need the door to remain closed for any reason we lock it. They knock and we answer. We also have the rule in the house that ONLY mom & dad's door is allowed to be locked!

 

[MickeyMomOfThree]

We sleep with our doors closed (4 cats...need I say more). SO DS & DD know they are allowed to come in the room even if the door is closed. If we need the door to remain closed for any reason we lock it. They knock and we answer. We also have the rule in the house that ONLY mom & dad's door is allowed to be locked!

That's a good system too. We don't have any locks on any of our doors, but I also can't sleep with our doors closed. Our bedroom is an addition in the far back of the house. I always worry about the house being on fire and our smoke alarm not sensing it in time.

 

[ilandrazdsw]

That's a good system too. We don't have any locks on any of our doors, but I also can't sleep with our doors closed. Our bedroom is an addition in the far back of the house. I always worry about the house being on fire and our smoke alarm not sensing it in time.

yeah, safety is the first importance! Our house has all 3 bedroom doors right together in a short hall...with very loud fire alarms ine each room and hall (When the batteries start to go I can her the one in the laundry room which is the furthest away...safe-yes, but annoying ). We still have a monitor in DD3's room too.

Would you believe some moms actually will leave their babies/toddlers at home asleep during nap time to run to school to get the older child(ren)! I could NEVER do that cause with my luck THAT is the time there would be a fire or the child would wake up and climb out of the crib and wander around. It may be a few minutes, but not a few that I would be willing to risk. TOO SCARY!!!

 

[MickeyMomOfThree]

Nope, Never, Never, Never. I don't even leave my 9 and 7 year olds alone (old enough to get out) to run DD14 to a friends nearby. Call me paranoid,I don't mind. I'd rather be paranoid then broken-hearted!!!

 

[ktcov]

I havent read the whole thread but I wanted to comment on the Octuplet story...

We had to use IVF last year to conceive our daughter. I begged our dr to put 3 embryos in, only because we wanted to increase our chances of 1 baby. We were so scared that it wouldnt take and we werent sure when we would have the money to do it again. My fertility specialist absolutely REFUSED to put any more than 2 embryos back in me. He said because of my age (under 35) and the fact that he didnt think I would have problems carrying a child he would never put more than 2 in. Had I been over 35 and had a history of miscarriages, the most he would put in is 4.

We did lose 1 embryo but I am currently staring at at a beautiful giggling 3 month old baby girl!

For those of you that were asking about the cost... Our initial cost was around $15k (dr, surgery, labs, meds). That doesnt include all the tests and treatments we went thru before. We have 4 frozen embryos...when we decide to do another round and save the money, the estimated cost is $4200. Every clinic is different and can charge different prices. We are in TN but I'm guessing since CA cost of living is higher then their prices would be higher.


I personally am questioning the integrity of her doctors. Only because of my own experience. I'm also wondering if she went overseas...sometimes some other countries are more relaxed with their medical policies than we are in the US. One other thing I find confusing is how she has so many embryos to implant. The 'average' egg retrieval is around 12-15. Usually, not all of them are mature... I had 25 eggs retrieved, 17 were mature and we ended up with 6 embryos total after 5 days growth.

I dont know everything there is to know about IVF...thats just my 2 cents and my experience, for what its worth.


As for Jon & Kate... I used to love the show, then came the episode where they took all the kids Xmas shopping and Kate was screaming across the store at Jon. I was so embarrassed for him. I still catch it once in awhile but I no longer watch every week. I missed the bedroom scene. I personally am looking forward to the day Lizzie crawls into bed with us to watch cartoons. And if we had multiples... I dont think it would change my mind. After dealing with infertility and being told being told the chance of conceive children the 'natural' way is almost non-exhistant... we cherish every moment with our child. Granted our child is still a baby.