Only minors (no adults)?

[wdw_monster]

lie just say ur 18

 

[ilusionista]

lie just say ur 18

Won't this work until they ask for ID's or passport? XD

 

[wdw_monster]

what ever happen to a fake i.d. lol or mabye not a disney hotel but a crummy motel will proballydo it. we use to do that all that time at disneyland(i was about 16 at the time) if you don't care so much about the law theres ways of getting around it. we sure didn't care lol plus a crummy hotel u can thrash it and know one cares

good luck hope u dont have to wait for very long to be 18, disney with no parents is the best!!!

 

[musicmom3331]

ilusionista, I want to commend you on your command of the English language. As far as letting children roam the country before age 18...it's because they're still children in the eyes of the law and children should be supervised by adults.

 

[wdw_monster]

whats a troll ?

 

[ilusionista]

ilusionista, I want to commend you on your command of the English language. As far as letting children roam the country before age 18...it's because they're still children in the eyes of the law and children should be supervised by adults.

Thank you I can write better than this, but I'm being lazy


Yes I understand that, I just find it to be quite a strange regulation. I mean, I would understand for smaller children such as maybe 10 to 14 years old, but from 15 years old upwards they should allow it, at least with a parents signed authorization letter or whatever.

 

[TwoIfBySea]

Even though you can have a driver's license at 16 or 17 in most states, a car rental agency will not rent to you. Most won't even rent to people under age 25, although there are some that will rent to 21 year olds (often at a much higher rate due to insurance concerns).

As for where you can stay in Orlando, yes, there are youth hostels. Look at http://www.orlandohostels.com/ for instance.

I was very curious, so I called this place and asked whether a traveling 16 and 17 year old would be allowed to book a stay and the answer was YES. What they would need is a letter signed by your parents confirming their permission for you to travel and specifically permitting you to stay at the Orlando Palm Lakefront Resort on specific dates.

So there you have it -- at least one place will let you stay.

It seems to matter what country you are coming from, because the person who answered the phone asked me what country you were coming from before giving me the answer. And you might want to have your parents call this place or any other ahead of your trip to confirm!

As for whether Orlando is a dangerous place -- as you point out, Argentina is much more dangerous than Orlando. However, the dangers in Orlando may be different than the ones you are used to at home, so I hope you will read up on what to expect before coming, and exercise good sense and caution in your surroundings.

 

[musicmom3331]

It's been scientifically proven that human brains are still developing until around age 21. Before then, some impulse control is lacking. We read on this board many times about big groups of 14-15 yr. olds with minimal supervision and some of the antics they pull.

 

[wdw_monster]

It's been scientifically proven that human brains are still developing until around age 21. Before then, some impulse control is lacking. We read on this board many times about big groups of 14-15 yr. olds with minimal supervision and some of the antics they pull.

yea but thats when its the funest, lol i loved making all the old ladys mad at disney cuz we we having fun lol, now that i'm old (25), all i wanna do is yell at them "u damn kids"

 

[dizanimator]

not really related to the thread, but in Ohio, 16 is the age for a full fledged drivers license. I think there are still a few restrictions, such as number of underage passengers in the vehicle. But there is no nighttime restriction I am aware of (other than various municipalities' individual curfews) and it is not a permit requiring a licensed driver. Permits start at 15 1/2 here I believe.

I don't know when you last read the Digest of Ohio Motor Vehicle Laws, but I think there are now some restrictions for license holders under 18, that vary by age. I think at 16 you need a parent to drive more than one person who isn't a family member, and can't drive between midnight and 6am unless with a parent or for school/work. At 17 I think it's 1am to 5pm with the same exceptions. Maybe it's changed in the last few years.

 

[ilusionista]

Even though you can have a driver's license at 16 or 17 in most states, a car rental agency will not rent to you. Most won't even rent to people under age 25, although there are some that will rent to 21 year olds (often at a much higher rate due to insurance concerns).

As for where you can stay in Orlando, yes, there are youth hostels. Look at http://www.orlandohostels.com/ for instance.

I was very curious, so I called this place and asked whether a traveling 16 and 17 year old would be allowed to book a stay and the answer was YES. What they would need is a letter signed by your parents confirming their permission for you to travel and specifically permitting you to stay at the Orlando Palm Lakefront Resort on specific dates.

So there you have it -- at least one place will let you stay.

It seems to matter what country you are coming from, because the person who answered the phone asked me what country you were coming from before giving me the answer. And you might want to have your parents call this place or any other ahead of your trip to confirm!

As for whether Orlando is a dangerous place -- as you point out, Argentina is much more dangerous than Orlando. However, the dangers in Orlando may be different than the ones you are used to at home, so I hope you will read up on what to expect before coming, and exercise good sense and caution in your surroundings.

Wow, thanks for the information! I've already been to Orlando this year, and I fell in love with the perfection of the place and well of cause the parks, that's the main reason I want to go back XD

The problem with staying on the hostel you pointed out, is the transport. Like if it has a supermarket close to it and a kitchen we just cook some frozen stuff in the microwave and that's it. But how do we get to the parks? We can't drive or anything, and taxis are expensive :/

 

[TwoIfBySea]

But how do we get to the parks? We can't drive or anything, and taxis are expensive :/

Travel around the US will be a problem almost anywhere except in a major city. Orlando has a bus system but I have no idea where it goes. The system is called LYNX. Try googling it and see whether you can get from the hostel to the parks.

If not then yes, you'd have to go in on a taxi each day, but with an inexpensive hotel room and split among several of you it should be affordable if you can afford to come at all -- Disneyworld isn't cheap!

If you wait until you are 18 and stay on property then you save the taxi fare, but your room might be more expensive. That is a problem anyone faces -- the question of how to do Disney on a budget and whether it is worth staying on or off property.

 

[Mrsjvb]

lie just say ur 18

what an idiotic suggestion.

in fact I do believe it is against the posting regs on this board to mention any ways to violate established WDW policies.

 

[TwoAtDisney]

Hi Ilusionista, & welcome to disboards. Here is a hostel site I found,
http://www.orlandohostels.com/ I don't know if it is a good one or not. Says it is 5 miles from WDW, but I don't know about the transportation to & from, or the age requirement, if any. Probably emailing your questions to the place or calling will get you some answers. I'm assuming that since it is a hostel, underage people can reserve a room, but you may need a credit card.

Here are some reviews of the above place - http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Re...ront_Resort_and_Hostel-Kissimmee_Florida.html

I'd like to add a couple of things about your situation for traveling to WDW -

1. Here is a post I found on FlyerTalk.com - Walt Disney World hotels allowed me to sign a waiver for my then-17 year old son. Essentially, I agreed to be responsible for whatever damages he and his friends incurred. I am sure that Marriott will do this too. Have them fax it or email it to your parent/guardian in advance of your arrival. Please note, the post mentions "hotels" - may not be a Disney owned resort, but one in the Disney hotel zone which is within walking distance of Downtown Disney & these hotels have transportation to the Disney parks. The "it" being referred to is a "waiver form". If this works, you and/or your family will probably have to make an advance payment to cover any possible damages, or just give credit card info. If you try this with WDW & the agent is not familiar with the "waiver form", ask to speak with their manager. Some agents are not familiar with everything. If you find a hotel that will accept you, request them to fax it to you in order to speed the process.

Another post stated that often a "charge authorization form" signed by the parent is also required. Hotels agreeing to this will fax the form to you.

It is a good idea for you to have a notarized statement from a parent (who has a good credit card) stating that the parent will accept responsibility for all charges. According to some posts I saw on other boards, when the notarized letter was used, it sometimes took some calls & faxes between the hotel & the parent, but it got done.

Also, you might have some luck with www.hostelbookers.com or hostels.com. And here's the Kissimmee Tourist Bureau; email or call them; they may know which hotels will make arrangements for your group - www.visitkissimmee.com

If you decide on a hostel, be sure to check the distance to WDW & how you can get to WDW without a car. I suggest also checking reviews of all lodging places on www.tripadvisor.com.

Following is an excellent site for finding more info on your travels to the U.S. & your lodging issue - www.fodors.com. On the home page, click on "Forums" (right under the Fodor's name). Next screen, click on "United States". Next screen, in the "View by State" box, select Florida in the drop down box. Ask away & you will get great advice from some experienced world travelers - hopefully.

2. Hurricane season can go until middle of November. However, November is not a risky month, in my opinion. We have traveled to Disney too many years to count in November & have never had a problem. Sept, Oct, Nov (except Thanksgiving week), & the 1st two weeks in Dec. are lower price & crowds months. Excellent time to visit WDW, in my opinion.

3. January can be very cold - even winter coat cold. So, if you plan on enjoying the Florida sun, that is not a good month. We've spent many winters in WDW area & I can't remember a January without winter-coat cold.

4. Re: your safety in U.S. - As in most 1st world countries, the U.S. has some "safe" areas & some "dangerous" areas. Use the front desk staff of your lodging facility to guide you. The most important advice is fairly basic in life everywhere - do not go anywhere with someone you meet along the way - don't get in vehicles, don't visit their rooms, don't let them visit your room, don't let them know where your room is. Stay together; don't let anyone in your group go off by themselves. Know the laws - you cannot legally buy or drink alcohol - you could end up in jail if you do. Guard your passport carefully - either wear a money belt under your underwear, or keep it in your hotel safe. If not on Disney property, the later in the night/early morning you are out & about, the more unsafe you are.

Theft of your property - While traveling in Europe & speaking with many young folks staying in hostels, the main problem was theft. So, don't bring anything expensive with you - travel light.

5. Re: international travel by young folks. - Americans who do not travel to other countries are usually not familiar with and/or not in agreement with this practice. Unlike Europe & South America, we are not surrounded by other countries - just 2 borders to share & for many Americans, those borders are a world away. So, when you get comments or questions about this practice, I hope you can patiently understand where it is coming from.

6. Our airport security - take it seriously; don't joke with the agents or you may be detained. Same applies while anywhere in the airport & on the plane.

7. If you are not successful in getting a WDW hotel, have you considered a tour company in your country? It's possible that when you are included in a group tour, obtaining your rooms wlll not be an issue. You could select a group tour that provides independent touring, so you don't have to stick with the group.

Good luck with obtaining a hotel & with your travels, and have a great time.

Julie

 

[Mrsjvb]

what ever happen to a fake i.d. lol or mabye not a disney hotel but a crummy motel will proballydo it. we use to do that all that time at disneyland(i was about 16 at the time) if you don't care so much about the law theres ways of getting around it. we sure didn't care lol plus a crummy hotel u can thrash it and know one cares

good luck hope u dont have to wait for very long to be 18, disney with no parents is the best!!!

Remember my earlier post about stupid idiotic IMMATURE Americans?! I rest my case. yeah that' all the OP needs.. to be in a foreign country breaking local laws.

 

[Mrsjvb]

ilusionista, I want to commend you on your command of the English language. As far as letting children roam the country before age 18...it's because they're still children in the eyes of the law and children should be supervised by adults.

hah. 98% of non Americans speak and write better American than any home grown local. one, other countries actually HAVE a decent education system because they hold their students responsible for actually..you know..LEARNING as opposed to being allowed to graduate to keep the No Child Left Behind Act from making the teachers look bad. . and 2 they MAKE everyone learn a foreign language. usually English as it is the international language of business( and air Traffic control)

Saw this when I lived in Japan

 

[Feckless]

Hi Ilusionista, & welcome to disboards. Here is a hostel site I found,
http://www.orlandohostels.com/ I don't know if it is a good one or not. Says it is 5 miles from WDW, but I don't know about the transportation to & from, or the age requirement, if any. Probably emailing your questions to the place or calling will get you some answers. I'm assuming that since it is a hostel, underage people can reserve a room, but you may need a credit card.

I'd like to add a couple of things about your situation for traveling to WDW -

1. Here is a post I found on FlyerTalk.com - Walt Disney World hotels allowed me to sign a waiver for my then-17 year old son. Essentially, I agreed to be responsible for whatever damages he and his friends incurred. I am sure that Marriott will do this too. Have them fax it or email it to your parent/guardian in advance of your arrival. Please note, the post mentions "hotels" - may not be a Disney owned resort, but one in the Disney hotel zone which is within walking distance of Downtown Disney & these hotels have transportation to the Disney parks. The "it" being referred to is a "waiver form". If this works, you and/or your family will probably have to make an advance payment to cover any possible damages, or just give credit card info. If you try this with WDW & the agent is not familiar with the "waiver form", ask to speak with their manager. Some agents are not familiar with everything. If you find a hotel that will accept you, request them to fax it to you in order to speed the process.

Another post stated that often a "charge authorization form" signed by the parent is also required. Hotels agreeing to this will fax the form to you.

It is a good idea for you to have a notarized statement from a parent (who has a good credit card) stating that the parent will accept responsibility for all charges. According to some posts I saw on other boards, when the notarized letter was used, it sometimes took some calls & faxes between the hotel & the parent, but it got done.

This might be the way to deal with the issue of the OP being under the age of majority. If the OP's parents provide the CC, authorization and indemnity, then they would be the one bound by the agreement. Again, my understanding is that under the age of majority you cannot be bound by any contract. A rental agreement for a hotel room is a contract.

My DH's mother is from Buenos Aires. I think she remembers a place very different from what exists now....

 

[mdrob214]

nope. for one at 16 it is a permit only which RESTRICTS the driving.. not at night and must have a licensed driver in the car as well.

I am gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are legit. doesn't mean that you are ready to handle being alone in a major American metropolitan area which is full of unsavory types who would think nothing of preying on some unsuspecting tourist. of any age. but ESPECIALLY kids.

And that depends on the state. In Nebraska, one must be 19 to be considered an adult. But teens as young as 14 may drive (to/from school and with hours restrictions) At 16 they have a regular license, may take one non-family passenger in the first 6 months(no restrictions on that after the first 6 months) and they aren't required to have an adult with them. They still must obey curfew laws, of course.

 

[ilusionista]

Hi Ilusionista, & welcome to disboards. Here is a hostel site I found,
http://www.orlandohostels.com/ I don't know if it is a good one or not. Says it is 5 miles from WDW, but I don't know about the transportation to & from, or the age requirement, if any. Probably emailing your questions to the place or calling will get you some answers. I'm assuming that since it is a hostel, underage people can reserve a room, but you may need a credit card.

Here are some reviews of the above place - http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Re...ront_Resort_and_Hostel-Kissimmee_Florida.html

I'd like to add a couple of things about your situation for traveling to WDW -

1. Here is a post I found on FlyerTalk.com - Walt Disney World hotels allowed me to sign a waiver for my then-17 year old son. Essentially, I agreed to be responsible for whatever damages he and his friends incurred. I am sure that Marriott will do this too. Have them fax it or email it to your parent/guardian in advance of your arrival. Please note, the post mentions "hotels" - may not be a Disney owned resort, but one in the Disney hotel zone which is within walking distance of Downtown Disney & these hotels have transportation to the Disney parks. The "it" being referred to is a "waiver form". If this works, you and/or your family will probably have to make an advance payment to cover any possible damages, or just give credit card info. If you try this with WDW & the agent is not familiar with the "waiver form", ask to speak with their manager. Some agents are not familiar with everything. If you find a hotel that will accept you, request them to fax it to you in order to speed the process.

Another post stated that often a "charge authorization form" signed by the parent is also required. Hotels agreeing to this will fax the form to you.

It is a good idea for you to have a notarized statement from a parent (who has a good credit card) stating that the parent will accept responsibility for all charges. According to some posts I saw on other boards, when the notarized letter was used, it sometimes took some calls & faxes between the hotel & the parent, but it got done.

Also, you might have some luck with www.hostelbookers.com or hostels.com. And here's the Kissimmee Tourist Bureau; email or call them; they may know which hotels will make arrangements for your group - www.visitkissimmee.com

If you decide on a hostel, be sure to check the distance to WDW & how you can get to WDW without a car. I suggest also checking reviews of all lodging places on www.tripadvisor.com.

Following is an excellent site for finding more info on your travels to the U.S. & your lodging issue - www.fodors.com. On the home page, click on "Forums" (right under the Fodor's name). Next screen, click on "United States". Next screen, in the "View by State" box, select Florida in the drop down box. Ask away & you will get great advice from some experienced world travelers - hopefully.

2. Hurricane season can go until middle of November. However, November is not a risky month, in my opinion. We have traveled to Disney too many years to count in November & have never had a problem. Sept, Oct, Nov (except Thanksgiving week), & the 1st two weeks in Dec. are lower price & crowds months. Excellent time to visit WDW, in my opinion.

3. January can be very cold - even winter coat cold. So, if you plan on enjoying the Florida sun, that is not a good month. We've spent many winters in WDW area & I can't remember a January without winter-coat cold.

4. Re: your safety in U.S. - As in most 1st world countries, the U.S. has some "safe" areas & some "dangerous" areas. Use the front desk staff of your lodging facility to guide you. The most important advice is fairly basic in life everywhere - do not go anywhere with someone you meet along the way - don't get in vehicles, don't visit their rooms, don't let them visit your room, don't let them know where your room is. Stay together; don't let anyone in your group go off by themselves. Know the laws - you cannot legally buy or drink alcohol - you could end up in jail if you do. Guard your passport carefully - either wear a money belt under your underwear, or keep it in your hotel safe. If not on Disney property, the later in the night/early morning you are out & about, the more unsafe you are.

Theft of your property - While traveling in Europe & speaking with many young folks staying in hostels, the main problem was theft. So, don't bring anything expensive with you - travel light.

5. Re: international travel by young folks. - Americans who do not travel to other countries are usually not familiar with and/or not in agreement with this practice. Unlike Europe & South America, we are not surrounded by other countries - just 2 borders to share & for many Americans, those borders are a world away. So, when you get comments or questions about this practice, I hope you can patiently understand where it is coming from.

6. Our airport security - take it seriously; don't joke with the agents or you may be detained. Same applies while anywhere in the airport & on the plane.

7. If you are not successful in getting a WDW hotel, have you considered a tour company in your country? It's possible that when you are included in a group tour, obtaining your rooms wlll not be an issue. You could select a group tour that provides independent touring, so you don't have to stick with the group.

Good luck with obtaining a hotel & with your travels, and have a great time.

Julie

Wow, thanks for all of this information. My parents will speak with a friend they have that is a travel agent and organized our last trip to WDW, and ask about minors staying withouth their parents and that. Still, the information you gave me was very very useful. Thanks again. And yeah I know about all of those security tips, I haven't drunk alcohol and don't think I will, and of course I wouldn't in USA. I understand airport security, saw it myself, but it was easy to get around and following their guidelines. Theft is common in my country, I believe south american people live with greater care for this issues than first world people, but just because we are more used to it.

hah. 98% of non Americans speak and write better American than any home grown local. one, other countries actually HAVE a decent education system because they hold their students responsible for actually..you know..LEARNING as opposed to being allowed to graduate to keep the No Child Left Behind Act from making the teachers look bad. . and 2 they MAKE everyone learn a foreign language. usually English as it is the international language of business( and air Traffic control)

Saw this when I lived in Japan

Are you kidding me? Our education is really bad, I go to a private school though (which is bad, but not as bad as public), used to be the best education in South America, now it's really bad. I find it funny that american people complain about their education service when here in Argentina we praise your public education and insult ours. And yes, learning a foreign language is common here, but only private schools get a good education on this matter.

This might be the way to deal with the issue of the OP being under the age of majority. If the OP's parents provide the CC, authorization and indemnity, then they would be the one bound by the agreement. Again, my understanding is that under the age of majority you cannot be bound by any contract. A rental agreement for a hotel room is a contract.

My DH's mother is from Buenos Aires. I think she remembers a place very different from what exists now....

Yes, that has given me some hope. But my parents would agree to the rental, not me. They would accept being responsible for any damage we make (we won't of course).

What does DH stand for? (I know what it means). Yes, Buenos Aires has changed a lot. Sadly, I don't live in the same country my parents did at my age. Bad economy crisis have teared the country down in two decades, plus pressures of goverments such as USA, etc. It's a pity.

 

[Mrsjvb]

DH= Dear Husband. or damn Husband. depends on my mood. and whether or not he has emailed me in the last 24 hours. ( he currently is stationed in Japan while I got left behind)