Once again, a school, a shooter....and we do the drill yet again.....

[MamaBelle4]

And I agree that it's a multi-faceted problem. But surprisingly the last 15 years of doing nothing has had shockingly little results.

 

[Minnesota!]

One of the reasons I did not mind lockdown for Covid even one bit - I never had to worry about my kid getting shot when he was just at the kitchen table.

This country sucks in so many ways.

 

[Allison]

We have failed as a country. It is so sad.

 

[sam_gordon]

It was on politifact. But I don't have the page pulled up any longer.

And the ban did result in a decrease from the previous period, it was certainly smaller than after the ban, but still smaller.

OK. I guess we'll have to take your word for it.

I would argue that any child's life saved during a ban is a higher priority than someone's imagined right to own a weapon designed for use in a battlefield.

ETA: The discrepancies between numbers on your graphs and what I used as a reference point is likely what parameters the source used to determine how many deaths constituted a "mass shooting" or similar parameters.

And your edit is why it's a good idea to post links to the data you use. This way people can judge for themselves.

 

[MamaBelle4]

One of the reasons I did not mind lockdown for Covid even one bit - I never had to worry about my kid getting shot when he was just at the kitchen table.

This country sucks in so many ways.

Same here. I keep thinking about pulling them and enrolling them in the school's version of cyber school.

And your edit is why it's a good idea to post links to the data you use. This way people can judge for themselves

I generally do. This forum, however, does have a tendency to censor certain sites, so I post no links here because I don't know what sites are allowed and which aren't.

 

[Dan Murphy]

This forum, however, does have a tendency to censor certain sites, so I post no links here because I don't know what sites are allowed and which aren't.

If a link/site is censored here it willm automatically be
*******'s out, no harm done, not against their guidelines. You can always post a link. If not allowed, the forum takes care of it, automatically. And there are really not many links that are, mostly several Disney oriented sites.

 

[MamaMermaid]

When is enough enough for these politicians? I have a lot more to say but don't want to get in trouble... the number of times I've erased this reply...

 

[mom2rtk]

One of the reasons I did not mind lockdown for Covid even one bit - I never had to worry about my kid getting shot when he was just at the kitchen table.

This country sucks in so many ways.

Unfortunately it also escalated the isolation issue for many. And we're starting to see the high price being paid educationally, which could reverberate for many years.

 

[ShirikiUtundu]

And I agree that it's a multi-faceted problem. But surprisingly the last 15 years of doing nothing has had shockingly little results.

 

[AppleDumpling]

SSDD in the USA

 

[kymom99]

I blame the decline in mental health of young people on social media.

 

[Jennasis]

We've done nothing and will continue to do nothing but offer hollow thoughts and prayers.

 

[georgina]

No one is safe anywhere in this country due to the number of people walking around with guns. You could be walking down the street and get shot in the crossfire of a petty argument.

 

[CdnCarrie]

I blame the decline in mental health of young people on social media.

Young people in other countries use social media as much as in the USA. Doubt that has anything to do with it.

 

[TAX GUY]

Semantics, I know, but it wasn't an AR-15, it was an "AR-15 STYLE". Not sure why the actual rifle wasn't mentioned, other than a picture that was tweeted out.

I've said before and I'll continue to say, as for gun control and laws, what is needed is UNIVERSAL laws. I'm from Massachusetts and they have some of the strictest laws, while other surrounding states are more relaxed. Other states have little to none. Drivers licenses are universal, so should LTC's.

And why doesn't the other common denominator ever get mentioned (other than "assault rifle/gun)? Terms like "loner", "anti-social", "no friends", "didn't fit in"..... the list goes on. Many are quick to blame the tool, but not the tool handler. I also don't understand why any other type of "mass killing" never get the same attention or discussion? There was one recently that was outside the US, and didn't involve a gun (no AR or any other type of firearm). It was posted here but only had a handful of replies. No hate, no anger, no cries of government needing to do more, nothing. Why? Are only certain tragedies worthy of discussion and outcry?

I'm sure I'll get blasted for this, so be it.


Edit to add: it was a mass stabbing in early September in Saskatchewan, Canada.

 

[Marrila]

Young people in other countries use social media as much as in the USA. Doubt that has anything to do with it.

There might be a difference in the US. Add in often easy access to firearms plus certain types of social media.

 

[MamaBelle4]

There was one recently that was outside the US, and didn't involve a gun (no AR or any other type of firearm). It was posted here but only had a handful of replies. No hate, no anger, no cries of government needing to do more, nothing. Why? Are only certain tragedies worthy of discussion and outcry?

My guess? Because there are so many school shootings here in the US we don't have the bandwidth to deal with world wide crisis, which isn't great.

Kind of a "remove the plank from your own eye before worrying about the splinter in your neighbor's" situation.

 

[PollyannaMom]

I blame the decline in mental health of young people on social media.

I do think it's one of many factors

 

[jalapeno_pretzel]

One of the reasons I did not mind lockdown for Covid even one bit - I never had to worry about my kid getting shot when he was just at the kitchen table.

Same here. I keep thinking about pulling them and enrolling them in the school's version of cyber school.

I sometimes feel the same way, that I'm afraid for my kids to be at school, but then I think about all the other places they could just as easily get shot.
Movie theater, grocery store, church, walmart, hospital/medical office, walking or running along the greenway, concert, baggage claim area of airport, shopping mall, food court, sporting event, and on and on and on. Really at least the schools have drills and try to prepare the best they can, some of the other venues almost seem like more likely or more dangerous targets. Anyway, that's how I rationalize that it's okay to go to school, because there are so many other places to get shot, why should I assume it will be at school.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Young people in other countries use social media as much as in the USA. Doubt that has anything to do with it.

There is lots of research already, and more coming out all the time, about the negative effects of social media.

From the top psychiatric hospital in the US:
https://www.mcleanhospital.org/essential/it-or-not-social-medias-affecting-your-mental-health

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...visited-Graveshams-youth-service-trip-UK.html