OMG. Disney Has Reached New Lows

[ArwenMarie]

AP's used to entitle you to 365 days of entrance, with the fastpasses to go with it.

Well I guess you can still technically enter the park 365 days and get SDFPs...it's the prebooking that is limited for APs.

I remember when it started APs could prebook at 60 days without a resort stay then it was cut to 30

 

[cakebaker]

I had an issue when we booked our fp+'s the other night. There are 3 of us with AP's and we have resort reservations. 2 people had no problems booking 8 days of fp+. However, I could not book anything beyond 30 days if I tried to book a fp+ for myself only. If I added one of the other 2, the window opened for 60 days as it should. Of course because it was doing that, it would not let anyone book fp+ for me for the 8th day. For some reason, it is not linking the reservations to my AP.

Bottom line- I called tech support and they had to manually add me to the existing fp+ reservations the other 2 had. It only took a few minutes. In the meantime, they've escalated the issue as they could find no reason that it's doing what it's doing. The fact that it opens the window to 60 days IF I book my fp+ along with someone else and won't if I book alone, yet won't let anyone book the 8th day seems to be a new glitch this person had not seen. It's no big deal for me, they took care of what we needed done and the fact that I can't book on my own really doesn't cause us a problem.

When you have a resort stay, it doesn't matter that it's an AP. You should be able to book your length of stay and that includes check out day. Why would it matter what the op had done before the window for her reservation opened is the question I have.

Are you saying that if I booked a couple of days of fp+'s before my reservation started, then I would not be able to book my length of stay? Weird, if that's how it works.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I had an issue when we booked our fp+'s the other night. There are 3 of us with AP's and we have resort reservations. 2 people had no problems booking 8 days of fp+. However, I could not book anything beyond 30 days if I tried to book a fp+ for myself only. If I added one of the other 2, the window opened for 60 days as it should. Of course because it was doing that, it would not let anyone book fp+ for me for the 8th day. For some reason, it is not linking the reservations to my AP.

Bottom line- I called tech support and they had to manually add me to the existing fp+ reservations the other 2 had. It only took a few minutes. In the meantime, they've escalated the issue as they could find no reason that it's doing what it's doing. The fact that it opens the window to 60 days IF I book my fp+ along with someone else and won't if I book alone, yet won't let anyone book the 8th day seems to be a new glitch this person had not seen. It's no big deal for me, they took care of what we needed done and the fact that I can't book on my own really doesn't cause us a problem.

When you have a resort stay, it doesn't matter that it's an AP. You should be able to book your length of stay and that includes check out day. Why would it matter what the op had done before the window for her reservation opened is the question I have.

Are you saying that if I booked a couple of days of fp+'s before my reservation started, then I would not be able to book my length of stay? Weird, if that's how it works.

The OP was able to book the length of stay. It was the extra offsite day that used up the day. It makes sense according to the current rules. Not saying it's right, that's a matter of opinion

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

The OP was able to book the length of stay. It was the extra offsite day that used up the day. It makes sense according to the current rules. Not saying it's right, that's a matter of opinion

If she could not book checkout day, she was not able to book length of stay.

I booked my stay and it include check in and check out days. Now, it was only 2 nights/3days. But it included ALL days of my stay. Not just the nights.

And APs are entitled to the length of stay limits as all other resort guests. And that can exceed 7.

 

[ArwenMarie]

If she could not book checkout day, she was not able to book length of stay.

I booked my stay and it include check in and check out days. Now, it was only 2 nights/3days. But it included ALL days of my stay. Not just the nights.

So within a 30 day period an AP can book 7 days worth or longer if the length of stay is longer. But the two numbers don't add, it's one or the other.

ETA: length of stay meaning plus checkout day

 

[Robo]

I booked my stay and it include check in and check out days. Now, it was only 2 nights/3days. But it included ALL days of my stay. Not just the nights.

To be clear, check-IN day IS associated with a "night", but check-OUT day is not associated with a night.
So a "3-day stay" (in hotel terms) is a 2-night stay.

And, yes check-out day is normally included.

 

[alvernon90]

If she could not book checkout day, she was not able to book length of stay.

I booked my stay and it include check in and check out days.

I think you missed part of the original post. She booked FPs for the day before her check-in day, which used up her allotment before her check-out day. If she didn't have FP for her offsite day, she'd be able to book on her check-out day, giving her length of stay.

 

[Robo]

So within a 30 day period an AP can book 7 days worth or longer if the length of stay is longer. But the two numbers don't add, it's one or the other.

I think you missed part of the original post. She booked FPs for the day before her check-in day, which used up her allotment before her check-out day. If she didn't have FP for her offsite day, she'd be able to book on her check-out day, giving her length of stay.

Yup, that one-day-BEFORE-checkin-day FP+ reservation is the problem in this case.

 

[AngiTN]

Can she drop the one day before FP and then book all days of her resort stay? And then at day 30 go in and book the day they'll be staying off site? If that makes sense. It does in my head but that doesn't mean much

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I think you missed part of the original post. She booked FPs for the day before her check-in day, which used up her allotment before her check-out day. If she didn't have FP for her offsite day, she'd be able to book on her check-out day, giving her length of stay.

Well that kind of makes sense.

So if she had a 10 day stay, because she booked one day PRIOR to that check in, she wouldn't be a me to book Fastpasses through day 9? (Still giving her 10 days--just not the 10 days of the resort stay.)

 

[Robo]

1. Can she drop the one day before FP and then book all days of her resort stay?

2. And then at day 30 go in and book the day they'll be staying off site?

If that makes sense.

3. It does in my head but that doesn't mean much

1. Yes.
2. Nope.

3. I know. It makes my head hurt.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Can she drop the one day before FP and then book all days of her resort stay? And then at day 30 go in and book the day they'll be staying off site? If that makes sense. It does in my head but that doesn't mean much

I don't know.

I have a 2 night 3 day stay and I am locked at 7 days. I did book my resort stay first and then my other random stuff. But I cannot book more than 7. AP's are limited to 7 days OR length of stay, whichever is greater. So I don't think rebooking at 30 days would be possible.

 

[AngiTN]

1. Yes.
2. Nope.

3. I know. It makes my head hurt.

So, booking the on site 60 day advance FP blocks your ability to book any at 30 days out? Odd. Locals could really be stung by that since they could easily have a day trip in close proximty to an onsite Resort trip. No?

 

[Robo]

I don't know.

I have a 2 night 3 day stay and I am locked at 7 days. I did book my resort stay first and then my other random stuff. But I cannot book more than 7.

1. AP's are limited to 7 days OR length of stay, whichever is greater.

2. So I don't think rebooking at 30 days would be possible.

1. That's the limit.
2. Correct.

 

[Robo]

So, booking the on site 60 day advance FP blocks your ability to book any at 30 days out? Odd. Locals could really be stung by that since they could easily have a day trip in close proximty to an onsite Resort trip. No?

And, we are back to just one of the big reasons why FP+ is not on my PLUS list.

 

[Robo]

So if she had a 10 day stay, because she booked one day PRIOR to that check in, she wouldn't be a me to book Fastpasses through day 9?
(Still giving her 10 days--just not the 10 days of the resort stay.)

Correct.

If she had a 10-day WDW resort stay (9 nights) booked, but WITHOUT booking that one non-WDW resort day of FP+, she could make 10 days of FP+ reservations.

That one non-WDW resort day of FP+ is the problem.

 

[ArwenMarie]

Well that kind of makes sense.

So if she had a 10 day stay, because she booked one day PRIOR to that check in, she wouldn't be a me to book Fastpasses through day 9? (Still giving her 10 days--just not the 10 days of the resort stay.)

I think so. It's 7 days unless overridden by a resort stay. In the OP's case the numbers were both 7 which made it a bit more confusing but it should be the same concept.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

So, booking the on site 60 day advance FP blocks your ability to book any at 30 days out? Odd. Locals could really be stung by that since they could easily have a day trip in close proximty to an onsite Resort trip. No?

Well--not really.

AP holder here in close proximity.

I don't need a 30 day window. Once my 60 day window opens, I can book from 60 days prior until check out day for my limit.

So for our upcoming trip. I booked it. Then I booked some things for 35 days out, 40 days out, whatever. I was not limited to the parameters of my check in/checkout date. I could book anything 30-60 days + LOS.

But yes, once I book my trip--sounds like if it is in excess of 6 days--I am tapped out. But then it is a matter of priorities.

If I have an actual vacation--I'm okay with booking just my vacation. But it is helpful to know how I am limited and it isn't crystal clear that any of my 7 would cut into my resort stay allocation. Until it is pointed out that is exactly the limitation per the wording.

 

[momof2n2]

I don't have APs so I have no dog in this race - but it just doesn't seem right at all... Folks with APs should have precedence (IMO of course) over even resort guests...

Sorry OP. It should not have to be so complicated. Maybe you will be so over WDW by the last day you won't care what you ride?

Seriously - how does this fit with the whole lock-it-in. Does Disney just not care because they have the AP people's money already? Like from Disney's POV would they actually prefer an AP person not come so much or stay so long? I'd have to think that that AP person, even if they aren't paying admission per day, they are pretty likely to spend money on meals in the parks? Right?

 

[BigAlsGal]

AP's used to entitle you to 365 days of entrance, with the fastpasses to go with it.

Yeah but you had to actually enter the park to take advantage of FP. I can only imagine if AP people were able to book FP+ anytime they wanted. Lots of no shows and wasted FP+ slots.