Okay, start getting the bail money together now please

chell said:
I don't have much but I'll give to help you out. But I really would rather be by your side. Care for some company?


Me too! :wave: Me too! :wave:

Man, this cell's gonna get crowded.
 
That guy is froot loops, and his congregants are poor narrow-minded trash. Actually, if memory serves, I think a lot of them are related to him. I personally would take great pleasure in putting on a stunning outfit, makeup, heels, and marching myself past that picket line so they could see what grace and class look like.
If you need a place to hide out, come to NYC. :)
 
Caradana said:
That guy is froot loops, and his congregants are poor narrow-minded trash. Actually, if memory serves, I think a lot of them are related to him. I personally would take great pleasure in putting on a stunning outfit, makeup, heels, and marching myself past that picket line so they could see what grace and class look like.
If you need a place to hide out, come to NYC. :)

Another good idea for peaceful protest to these yahoos would be to just have a group of people stand and read out the beattitudes from Matthew 5:

"Blessed are the poor in spirit...
Blessed are those who mourn...
Blessed are the peacemakers..."

etc, etc,... you get the idea.
 
during M. Shepard's funeral a bunch of folks made huge angel wings and just surrounded the "protesters" so that they couldn't be seen. What a great image - defeating hate with quite peace.

I think this group showed up at a recent memorial for the miners in WV too.
 

MsLeFever said:
I think this group showed up at a recent memorial for the miners in WV too.

Seems they go to all manner of funerals...is everyone who dies a ***? What about when one of them dies? Like when someone gets fed up with them and runs over them with their car or something? :rolleyes: The way they're going, I could see it. Will God have killed that person because they were a ***?

In regards to free speech, well, I am sorry but I will defend their right to say whatever they feel like. I WON'T defend the message, but I will defend their right to say it. I think people like this are scum, scum, scum...but we just have to shout louder than they can.
 
MsLeFever said:
during M. Shepard's funeral a bunch of folks made huge angel wings and just surrounded the "protesters" so that they couldn't be seen. What a great image - defeating hate with quite peace.

I think this group showed up at a recent memorial for the miners in WV too.

I remember seeing this reenacted in a movie for HBO--"Laramie", I believe? The men and women in angel wings as they peacefully blocked out the protesters was a beautiful, moving image.
 
From those of us who have lived Kansas, please do not ever equate this sick fellow with the fine state of Kansas. I went to the University of Kansas (A very liberal University) and he was there almost weekly in the 90s trying to stir up debate and just a general fuss.

A boyfriend and I went to an Areosmith Concert in Topeka in the early 90's and they were holding up the God hates gays signs, and so many people going in were laughing at them and talking about the fact that if there is a decidedly heterosexual man in that building, it was Steven Tyler himself. That was before we knew about his love child!

When he would engage in debate at the school I would walk by and roll my eyes. One time I stopped at the beginning of one and touched the guys arm who decided to take up the cause and I told him "You are really wasting your breath, this idiot lives for the drama. The best idea is to not even waste your time talking to him". Fred Phelps then told me I was a "Sinner who was going to hell". I just ignored him and walked away, and oh the words he called me just trying to get me to come back and defend myself. I swear, he would speak in tounges just to have an audience.

It is funny, with his anti gay stance he is quite the Drama Queen! I am so sorry more can't be done about that old fool, but he has a family full of lawyers and he is just looking for a law suit.
 
I'm good for the money too!!! :grouphug: And I am an experienced bailer outer(Bailor I guess) :thumbsup2 . Some people are so small minded. God wants us to love all...and the troops are doing a fantastic job-people should back off.
 
luvmydogs said:
I remember seeing this reenacted in a movie for HBO--"Laramie", I believe? The men and women in angel wings as they peacefully blocked out the protesters was a beautiful, moving image.

I saw that on HBO, right? The Laramie Project. It was beautiful.
 
Tina, I'm sorry about the narrow minded people in the world. Hugs to you! :grouphug:
 
In regards to free speech, well, I am sorry but I will defend their right to say whatever they feel like. I WON'T defend the message, but I will defend their right to say it. I think people like this are scum, scum, scum...but we just have to shout louder than they can.

Well said.

There is a difference between protecting the speech and protecting the message
 
Sandcass said:
I saw that on HBO, right? The Laramie Project. It was beautiful.

That's it--"The Laramie Project"! It was very, very well done.
 
Proud Army Wife, you have a Proud Army Mom right here if you need me!! :thumbsup2
 
Free Speech is something we all hold dear but are there not places where speech is restricted...say certain government lands, schools, etc. Could cemetaries be added to such a list. Just a thought.
 
jgmklmhem said:
Free Speech is something we all hold dear but are there not places where speech is restricted...say certain government lands, schools, etc. Could cemetaries be added to such a list. Just a thought.



This was a point I made in the Cindy Sheehan being arrested thread. If the government cares so much about when and where she wears a tshirt why then can't they protect the soldiers who have died overseas and more so their families from the hateful garbage being spouted by this group. I think if it's illegal to wear a tshirt to the SOTU it should definitely be illegal to protest a funeral/burial.
 
jgmklmhem said:
Free Speech is something we all hold dear but are there not places where speech is restricted...say certain government lands, schools, etc. Could cemetaries be added to such a list. Just a thought.

At least 5 states are doing so, including Mr. Phelps' home state of Kansas, and my home state of Illinois. Ours has about 25 co-sponsors already, and will likely pass.

Reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions may be placed on the freedom of speech. You can't shout "Fire" in a crowded theatre, and all that.
 
lovemygoofy said:
I cannot believe this!!! The nerve of these*bleeping* people coming here to protest my soldier and his brothers and sisters. It should be interesting to come and piss off 20,000+ spouses in addition to the soldiers we have here. I know the Special Forces is home, maybe we can have them secretly removed :thumbsup2 I have already seen them in action 2x now and I could barely restrain myself but now with Matt gone and my PMS and being sick. It might not be pretty. Start digging out the change lol

Anti-gay group plans local protest next week
Counter-protest being organized
By AMY RITCHART
The Leaf-Chronicle


Local men and women are scrambling to file petitions and organize a counter protest as news about a pending visit from the Westboro Baptist Church — a Kansas-based congregation that stages anti-gay protests at military funerals for soldiers — spreads through Clarksville and Oak Grove.

The church has posted an Oak Grove, Ky., visit to its “upcoming picket schedule” for 5 p.m. to 5:30 p.m. Wednesday at the intersection of Fort Campbell Boulevard and Chaffee Road, Oak Grove. The event is set to coincide with Fort Campbell’s post remembrance ceremony, a monthly memorial planned for those killed in Iraq.

Westboro Baptist Church was organized in 1955 by Fred Phelps, pastor of Topeka, Kans., to “adhere to the teachings of the Bible, preach against all form of sin (e.g., fornification, adultery, sodomy) and insist that the doctrines of grace be taught publicly to all men,” according the group’s Web site, where a flyer announcing the Oak Grove event is posted. The group promotes slogans such as “Thank God for IEDs,” alleging God is killing soldiers because of the advancement of gay rights in the United States.

Clarksville PRIDE chairman David Shelton is encouraging local men and women to counter protest “their hate” and “support our troops and common decency.” Oak Grove officials today are discussing how to handle the event.

Fort Campbell officials are advising those with post access to use alternate gates Wednesday. Visitors' passes may be obtained at the registration center at Gate 7 to avoid traffic at Gate 4.

For more on the story, see Friday's Leaf-Chronicle


give em hell!!!!!


I can't believe people can't see what they are doing for us. You may oppose the war or what we are doing outthere...BUT THEY ARE DOING IT FOR US!!!!!!
 
POB14 said:
At least 5 states are doing so, including Mr. Phelps' home state of Kansas, and my home state of Illinois. Ours has about 25 co-sponsors already, and will likely pass.

Reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions may be placed on the freedom of speech. You can't shout "Fire" in a crowded theatre, and all that.

Thank you for posting this information.
 
who gets to decide what is accepted and what is not?

I will bet you these laws will be thrown out. On public land, where safety is already addressed with police, etc. You cannot ban something because you do not like the speech.
 
To clarify the groups "God hates fags" message, they're aren't saying everyone who dies in Iraq is a ***, they are saying that they are dying because American society is tolerant of fags. It's similar to Pat Robertson hexing Florida with hurricanes for support of gay rights. Sort of a "what do you expect, you've got it coming, don't say I didn't tell you so".

I giggle in anticipation for the day someone comes forward to claim he had an affair with Fred. With that much smoke there has to be some fire.

ETA: improved spelling
 


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