Oh me, oh my-does baby Suri really exist???update now aka "The Suri Challenge"

[Imzadi]

Actually, it might have been pretty short.......
as many drugs as she has ALLEGEDLY taken, she probably doesn't have a lot of memories to probe.

I don't think you cn get auditted if you've been on antidepressants & other forms of mind-altering drugs. They supposedly stay in your system for years. They must keep making her do the "Purif," short for Purification program that can last several MONTHS (and cost lots of money.) The big hypocracy about the Purif is that you sit in a sauna for several hours, several weeks at a time to relase all those old chemicals from your system - BUT you are allowed to take CIGARETTE BREAKS!

They'd lose too many Scientologists if they had to quit smoking.

 

[SueM in MN]

Cathryn's Random Thoughts​

Okay - I went pee (apparently I come up with amazing conspiracy theories will I pee) and I thought of something...

You know how Scientology wants to "recruit" important people? Well remember Princess Diana was becoming buddy-buddy with John Travolta.

THEN - I recall - I was a waitress when Diana died, and all of us were gathered in the bar watching MSNBC. Various people called.... with accounts of what was going on. Witnesses, people on the street, etc etc...then a phone call comes in . It's Tom Cruise. I remember distinctly thinking THEN, who in the heck does he think he is??? He goes on a tangent "Ive been on that EXACT street and been chased by the Paparazzi as well. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP!!!" he was allllll riled up. And again, Im thinking "Why is Tom Cruise on the line??"

Flashforward to me, peeing. What if Diana was an attempted recruit? Although sad - why did Tom Cruise call MSNBC? Why does he have their number?!?!?

Whole thing = odd.

I had forgotten that, but being reminded of it now, I remember I thought it was odd at the time.

In the article from OK or the Star where Katie was at the party but spoke with no one other than other Scientologist. This reminds me of Elizabeth Smart, she was afraid to speak to anyone and started to sort of trust her kidnapper.

It does sound so much like that.
And why does a grown woman at a party with other celebrities need someone to go to the bathroom with her?
Are they afraid she'll run, appeal to someone for help, get talked out of her ALLEGED brainwashing by someone?
Are they afraid she's suicidal and might harm herself????

 

[Beth76]

This is all so very sad. I am very fascinated by the whole thing but it's sad & scary to think that Katie Holmes has possibly been brainwashed, held against her will, had her baby taken away, etc. and we are all watching (even getting a few laughs) but no one can or has done anything about it. If that were one of my kids, I would stop at nothing to get them back and I would definetly die trying. If she has been brainwashed, held hostage, etc. I hope that someone will help her soon.

I'd like to think that Katie's parents would get her out of the situation if they felt it necessary. He's a lawyer, he has to be pretty powerful and I doubt they're afraid of the scientologists, especially when it comes to their daughter and possible granddaughter. Unless they're so devout as to disown her because she denoucned her Catholocism.

 

[momrek06]

I'd like to think that Katie's parents would get her out of the situation if they felt it necessary. He's a lawyer, he has to be pretty powerful and I doubt they're afraid of the scientologists, especially when it comes to their daughter and possible granddaughter. Unless they're so devout as to disown her because she denoucned her Catholocism.

Yes, but up against all those millions and millions Tom has, it may be very difficult for the Holmes' to intervene. And, it can be even MORE difficult if Katie is already so incredibly "brainwashed" that what her parents say and do, do not matter to her. SHE IS NOT IN HER RIGHT MIND!

And if Tom DID choreograph this whole entire situation, looking for a young sweet innocent girl to "create" a baby for him all for his LOVE of L Ron...is just completely WRONG! It does not seem like it was the usual couples scenario: meet the love of my life, fall madly in love, get married, have some children and live happily ever after...because they did NOT meet by FATE, they had the baby PRIOR to marriage...

It is just so sad...it really is...

 

[CathrynRose]

Postpartum Depression, and freako won't let her get the help she needs!!

L L - Freako!

I love this thread - Im having so much fun!

You know - if a helicopter was circling your home, snapping pictures, would you be looking out the window -straight on - or wouldnt you be kinda looking up at the thing?

And how paranoid these people are - the curtains wouldnt be drawn as quick as you can say 'thetan'??

And being the rich and fancy schmancy people they are, I find the bed being used as a changing table, odd (if indeed those are little alien arms, doing something with the baby)

The whole thing - WEIRD!

I have this firm belief that when you die you do NOT go on to serve LRon for a billion years, but rather you get all the answers to EVERYTHING! (trivial and gigantic answers) I imagine this giant book of answers... SO I make a point whenever Im confused to say "this is going in my book" to let the powers that be, know I want that in there- SO: Page 95744 - what the heck was up with this whole Suri thing... in fact, add Sceintology itself to it.

 

[CathrynRose]

He's a lawyer, he has to be pretty powerful and I doubt they're afraid of the scientologists,.

Its very possible maybe they ARE working on it - however, with him being a lawyer, he should also be quite familiar with Scientology and how quickly they start with law suits. Maybe he's got to make sure everything is order before he begins?

Check this out: Scientology will sue if you look at them funny:

Check out this LIST: http://www.xenu.net/archive/CourtFiles/

And below, from: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache...scientology+lawsuits&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6

Scientology and the Legal System

Scientology has earned a reputation for itself as one of the most litigous organizations in history: it has filed hundreds of lawsuits (some say thousands) against a considerable number of its critics and opponents throughout the years, and it has procured an amazing record of legal costs. Scientology has spent millions of dollars over the years in its legal attacks on its enemies. Scientology defends this action by stating, "We are not a turn-the-other-cheek religion." These links will take you to various legal documents and court judgements that have had an important effect on Scientology and its relationships with the rest of the world. These links will also take you to the infamous "secret scriptures" of Scientology, because those documents are an important part of many of the lawsuits involving Scientology and the Internet.

 

[CathrynRose]

It's "Cathryn Found Some Links" Time!!!

This is filled, just filled to the brim - dripping with mucho-grande links:

http://www.altreligionscientology.org/

 

[CathrynRose]

I found this little blurb from here:http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds35731.html

Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes have invited Posh and Becks to see their baby daughter.

The Hollywood couple, who are keeping four-month-old Suri away from the public eye, have already instructed the Beckhams about the strict Scientology rules they will have to follow during the visit.

"David and Victoria are honoured that Tom and Katie have asked them along," a source told the Daily Star. "However, they were a little shocked by the list of rules they'll have to follow. Apparently they can't take any photographic equipment, they're banned from touching Suri and they're not allowed to do any baby-talk around her.

"It will be very difficult for Victoria because she just loves babies. And she's trying for a daughter with David at the moment."

I wouldnt go. I'd tell 'em - no thanks! What weird rules! And why them?!??!

"No (katie's parent) YOU cant see the baby, but Posh Spice and Beckham can"

 

[SueM in MN]

Its very possible maybe they ARE working on it - however, with him being a lawyer, he should also be quite familiar with Scientology and how quickly they start with law suits. Maybe he's got to make sure everything is order before he begins?

Check this out: Scientology will sue if you look at them funny:

Check out this LIST: http://www.xenu.net/archive/CourtFiles/

And below, from: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache...scientology+lawsuits&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6

I knew someone whose best friend was in the Moonies (another big ALLEGED cult) in the late 1970s and I did a lot of reading about cults, 'rescuing' people from cults and deprogramming. A lot of pages back, someone posted the Scientology 'contract' which includes a lot of language about the person having 'chosen' to be in Scientology of their own free will. If they cover that in the contract, they surely cover it in their basic Scientology 'education'. So, a Scientologist is probably well prepared to resist deprogramming.
For one thing, it seems that Katie is never alone (even when the poor girl goes to the restroom). She is always with someone from Scientology.
her family can't just steal her away - legally, if she says she doesn't want to go with them and they force her to, they have kidnapped her. She has probably been told that someone may try to 'steal' her away and is prepared to resist.
And, if they do get her away, they have to be totally prepared to deprogram her. Here is a good article about deprogramming someone from Scientology. If they take her away and don't/can't deprogram her, she will just 'escape' from her parents and go back. so, they probably only have one chance.

 

[CindyCan]

And, if they do get her away, they have to be totally prepared to deprogram her. Here is a good article about deprogramming someone from Scientology. If they take her away and don't/can't deprogram her, she will just 'escape' from her parents and go back. so, they probably only have one chance.

Wow. Just, wow. That's an interesting article. This stuff is so scary!

 

[CathrynRose]

My son is home and bored - he sends me this link: http://www.adherents.com/largecom/fam_scientologist.html


He's 11 ! ! ! LOL! I think Ive been yip-yapping too much about this! LOL!

 

[SueM in MN]

Wow. Just, wow. That's an interesting article. This stuff is so scary!

Here's another article, but the family was not so well prepared in this case.

 

[curlybop]

I was thinking of this thread just a bit ago, when someone posted about possible Suri photos on the site x17. Have you seen them? What do you think?

 

[Beth76]

"David and Victoria are honoured that Tom and Katie have asked them along," a source told the Daily Star. "However, they were a little shocked by the list of rules they'll have to follow. Apparently they can't take any photographic equipment, they're banned from touching Suri and they're not allowed to do any baby-talk around her.

It could be my imagination, but didn't Leah Remini say she held Suri?

 

[Sonya]

Yeah but Leah is a kool-aid drinker, perhaps the Beckhams aren't.

 

[CindyCan]

How did we end up buried on page 3 when the National Enquirer has a screaming headline that the baby is deformed? (Obviously I hope that's not true...and we all know the Suri-challenge-researchers are WAAAAY more reliable than the NEnq, but enquiring minds & all....)

 

[Imzadi]

How did we end up buried on page 3 when the National Enquirer has a screaming headline that the baby is deformed? (Obviously I hope that's not true...and we all know the Suri-challenge-researchers are WAAAAY more reliable than the NEnq, but enquiring minds & all....)

The Enquirer is only printing that NOW? Heck, Daxx already got us that picture four days ago, at the top of page 99. These magazines have to get their act in gear!

 

[Nancy]

How did we end up buried on page 3 when the National Enquirer has a screaming headline that the baby is deformed? (Obviously I hope that's not true...and we all know the Suri-challenge-researchers are WAAAAY more reliable than the NEnq, but enquiring minds & all....)

Well, I had to read the article and that headline was a HUGE teaser! All it basically said was Tom was mad because people were making up stories and that the stories were upsetting to Katie and making her depressed.

Now People had a good one! In the letters to the editor section there was a letter that said:

"In the photo of Katie Holmes in StarTracks, the caption says that the next day she took in a meeting at CAA [ Creative Artists Agency]. Does that stand for Cruise Addition Anonymous?"

That cracked me up!

 

[SplshMtn99]

My son is home and bored - he sends me this link: http://www.adherents.com/largecom/fam_scientologist.html


He's 11 ! ! ! LOL! I think Ive been yip-yapping too much about this! LOL!

LOL.... you are bringing him up right!!!

That's quite a list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SplshMtn99]

I was thinking of this thread just a bit ago, when someone posted about possible Suri photos on the site x17. Have you seen them? What do you think?

Its the same picture of her standing at the window that was already posted here yesterday. Actually, its even a worse version of it.