Oh me, oh my-does baby Suri really exist???update now aka "The Suri Challenge"

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CathrynRose said:
There's a website.... I cant post it here, cuz it contains....stuff that isnt appropriate for these boards.

Howver in addition to the "bad (gross, nasty)" stuff you can get a wonderful BIO of LRON, as well as the connection between he and Crowley (Mr Satanism himself)

The website starts with an *R* Means, bad.... ummm, spoiled...along those lines.

I bet if you searched "crowley hubbard" in google, it would pull it up as an option, too.....maybe like the 5th one down. ;)


Okay, got as far as "the poem" and had to stop reading. What a scary freak!!! :scared1:
 
Tom Cruise and his wild wacky behavior has in the long run done NOTHING for this cult except let people see how wacky it is.
 

CathrynRose said:
See now that's ridiculous! Dont exaggerate!!!

The wax Katie shows MUCH more emotion that the real-life version, these days.
LOL :lmao:
 
CathrynRose said:
For you article junkies .... from: http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/history/history98.html

The secrets of Scientology / A day

Cruise announced in an interview with ABC's Diane Sawyer that Holmes is no longer a Catholic. Asked whether their baby would be baptised a Catholic, he said: "You can be Catholic and a Scientologist. You can be Jewish and a Scientologist. But we're just Scientologists."
That part of that interview was scary to me and shows the alleged brainwashing power of Scientology - that someone who was a lifelong Catholic would throw away her religion and allow someone else to speak for her about her religion (and from what I read, she had been an active Catholic before she met up with TC).
CathrynRose said:
(quoted from the article)Posing as an interested disciple, I first call into the Scientology Centre on London's Tottenham Court Road where I fill out an Oxford Capacity Analysis Test, designed to measure emotional state in order to highlight areas that Scientology can improve. Although the test is free, I am encouraged to purchase a copy of Hubbard's Dianetics (for £6.99) and to contact them when I finish reading it.

My results apparently prove that I am depressed, nervous, critical, anxious and unable to communicate. I am told that I am in dire need of spiritual enlightenment and that only Scientology can help me.
I thought it was interesting (to say the least) for a group that is so against Psychiatry to be using what is basically a personality test to start the 'koolade' drinking process.
I found a site that has what it says is questions from the Oxford Capacity Analyisis Test. That site seems to think the test is just sort of silly and as "good as the weekly horoscope in the same. The test has absolutely nothing to do with reality, other than producing a result that may make a gullible person buy a course. "

I think it's allegedly much more sinister than that - I'd assume that whatever you answer to the questions becomes part of your record that would allegedly be used in your audits. Looked at in that way, the test is allegedly a blueprint of how best to suck you in to Scientology.
For example, someone who answers "yes" to these questions:
- Do you get occasional twitches of your muscles, when there is no logical reason for it?
- Are you usually concerned about the need to protect your health?
- Does an unexpected action cause your muscles to twitch?
might be someone who is a bit of a hypochondriac and could allegedly be approached in a way that makes them fearful about their health (while reasuring them that Scientology can protect their health.)

Some of the other questions might suggest things the person feels guilty about or subjects the auditor allegedly can explore during the audits to get information for future alleged blackmail. I'm thinking of things like these questions:
- Do you make thoughtless remarks or accusations which later you regret?
- Do your past failures still worry you?
- Do you enjoy telling people the latest scandal about your associates?
- If you saw an article in a shop obviously mistakenly marked lower than its correct price, would you try to get it at that price?
- Do you sometimes give away articles which strictly speaking do not belong to you?

The writer of that website seems to think the questions are random, but I think they are anything but. The person who is filling out the test allegedly is basically giving Scientology a blueprint of how to best get into the test taker's head. The Scientologists allegedly don't even have to work too hard to brainwash the people who come to them - the converts start brainwashing themselves as soon as they take the test.

I've read a lot about cults in the past - a friend of a friend was in a cult - and everything I see about Scientology alledgedly makes the other cults look like amatuers.
 
CathrynRose said:
I know....

I was baptised Presbyterian, and havent stepped foot in church siiiiiince "Sunday School" back when I was like 10.

You dont see them banging down my door, having me followed, harrassing and threatning me.

It's odd.
Can we say...Jehova's Witness, although they do that to GET people to join. :teeth: HI gang, just Bumping, great stuff, CathrynRose! :thumbsup2
 
SueM in MN said:
I found a site that has what it says is questions from the Oxford Capacity Analyisis Test. That site seems to think the test is just sort of silly and as "good as the weekly horoscope in the same. The test has absolutely nothing to do with reality, other than producing a result that may make a gullible person buy a course. "

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Fabtastic article! Thanks! :thumbsup2 In all my searches for links and articles - I tried to find one with this information.

Gracias!
 
OK, I've been gone on vacation a week, got back and just got caught up! Whew!

The Apple website trailer still has Ricky Bobby saying "Help me Tom Cruise"
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/talladeganights/low.html

Also I was in Buffalo NY and we went to the Galleria there (a mall) and who should we see there? Scientologists! I wanted to go ask them where baby Suri was but DH wouldn't let me!!!!!
 
Sonya said:
OK, I've been gone on vacation a week, got back and just got caught up! Whew!

The Apple website trailer still has Ricky Bobby saying "Help me Tom Cruise"
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/talladeganights/low.html

Also I was in Buffalo NY and we went to the Galleria there (a mall) and who should we see there? Scientologists! I wanted to go ask them where baby Suri was but DH wouldn't let me!!!!!

As if that area of New York doesn't have enough problems (job loss and Erie county has the highest taxes in the country, bad weather in the winters,etc) now they have to deal with Scientologists.
 
Sonya said:
Also I was in Buffalo NY and we went to the Galleria there (a mall) and who should we see there? Scientologists! I wanted to go ask them where baby Suri was but DH wouldn't let me!!!!!

Unacceptable!!!!

Is your husband aware of the semi-cult-like gang we have formed here, on the Dis?? Does he realize how important this sort of information could be to keeping this thread alive and thumping?!?!?

***shake fist*** Dont let it happen again!

:bitelip: :p
 
*sigh* yes he does, I keep him updated, but he wasn't about to let me embarrass him! Plus we had our DS with us and I think he was kind of afraid they would take him and try to pass him of as Suri! They are getting kind of desparate, you know. ;)
 
Daxx said:
That's some pretty weird stuff, CathrynRose!!! Yikes!!!!

Correction. That's allegedly some pretty weird stuff. allegedly allegedly allegedly

Sorry, I found that part of the article funny. Considering how we know the Church likes to sue, maybe we better put allegedly in everything we write. LOL :lmao: I can't affford to lose any Disney trips ya know. :teeth:
 
ChristmasElf said:
As if that area of New York doesn't have enough problems (job loss and Erie county has the highest taxes in the country, bad weather in the winters,etc) now they have to deal with Scientologists.

But see, the winter weather is exactly why they are there recruiting in Buffalo NY. Join Scientology & move to warm sunny Florida! :sunny:
;)
 
SplshMtn99 said:
Correction. That's allegedly some pretty weird stuff. allegedly allegedly allegedly

Sorry, I found that part of the article funny. Considering how we know the Church likes to sue, maybe we better put allegedly in everything we write. LOL :lmao: I can't affford to lose any Disney trips ya know. :teeth:

Youre reading my mind, chickee....

Allegedly, or course. :teeth:
 
Sonya said:
Also I was in Buffalo NY and we went to the Galleria there (a mall) and who should we see there? Scientologists! I wanted to go ask them where baby Suri was but DH wouldn't let me!!!!!
These are the same people DS and I harrassed the last time we were at the Galleria mall! Here's my post (back on July 15th) about the experience:
Daxx said:
So, yesterday, DS9 and I go to the mall. In the mall, they have this Scientology kiosk set up. Gobs of L.Ron Hubbard Dianetics books, pamphlets, etc. I walk by (as it's near the Gap and that's where I was going) and the guy there says "Would you like a stress test?" and I reply "And, what, it's a thousand dollars to do it, right? Do I look like I have millions of dollars?" and he says "What does that mean?" and I said "Come on, you people charge a fortune to belong to your so-called religion! Do I look like Tom Cruise?" and DS9 says "Yeah, when are we gonna see Suri?" (Snaps to DS on his part -- he knows my Suri obsession!)

The guy was totally speechless ... but I read that Scientology article! I prob. should've kept my mouth shut and walked by, but I couldn't resist!!!!! DS and I just laughed about it!!!
I'm in Kenmore (just outside of Buffalo) and this happened at the Galleria Mall!!!!!
 
ChristmasElf said:
As if that area of New York doesn't have enough problems (job loss and Erie county has the highest taxes in the country, bad weather in the winters,etc) now they have to deal with Scientologists.
You forgot to mention the most losing teams in hockey and football history -- the Bills and the Sabres. (Buffalonian, so I can say that)

Bolding is mine ... and yeah, just heap Tom Cruise's crazy pals onto good ol' Buffalo ... we need 'em like we need more snow in winter.
 
SplshMtn99 said:
Considering how we know the Church likes to sue, maybe we better put allegedly in everything we write. LOL :lmao: I can't affford to lose any Disney trips ya know. :teeth:
That's the truth!!!!
 
Too funny Daxx! I remember your post so when I did see them in the mall I wasn't surprised, I was ready! I was going to "take one for the team" as someone told you to do. DH refused to let me near them.

We were there for a week visiting familly in Orchard Park.
 
I teach 6th grade English and about 2 weeks before the end of the school year last year the office calls me and tells me I have a box in the office. I went between classes to get the box wondering what I had ordered. I opened the box and the first thing I notice was hardback books. The second thing I noticed was who wrote them. There was 6 L.Ron books for kids. There was a letter and I didn't get pass the first line to know I did not want these in my room. The Assistant Principal came by at the end of the day and I told her I had somehting to show her. She didn't get a good look just saw books and said oh keep them. Then I made her get a second look. I immediately turned them over to my VERY religious principal. Explaining the whole time that I did not order these books and I did not know how they got my name. I don't know what he did with them and really don't care. There were pages of a study guide to go with the books. I still wonder how they got my name and address. No other teachers in our school got them. You have to understand we are a very small school in the middle of nowhere in Alabama.
 
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