***Official*** Pandora: The World of Avatar Information Thread

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I'm surprised they didn't add a lift like they have for the swimming pools.

When the IP your land is pulled from focuses on a character who is in a wheelchair, it might behoove the land maker to have at least one ride fully handicap accessible. Right now, this does not appear to be the case.

That would create a new set of liability issues.

I am generally in the camp that not every ride must be made to accommodate EVERY person on the planet, though I do think it's nice that Disney has generally done so very well. I think they should strive to keep the VAST MAJORITY of rides accessible to all/most.

I think a notice should be included on the website for rides where size accommodations may not be possible, and that an alternate FP should be provided if someone cannot use a booked FP on a ride they cannot fit into.

I'm not sure how a lift could be made to work here, and can imagine that adding so much time to loading time as to make it infeasible.

That said, I cannot imagine what additional liability issues a lift would cause. My brother-in-law is an attorney at the DOJ working primarily on accessibility issues related to the ADA. Pool lifts, etc. are well-established tools used by MANY companies, and they don't increase the organization's liability -- they actually put them into compliance with the ADA.

 

[rteetz]

I am generally in the camp that not every ride must be made to accommodate EVERY person on the planet, though I do think it's nice that Disney has generally done so very well. I think they should strive to keep the VAST MAJORITY of rides accessible to all/most.

I think a notice should be included on the website for rides where size accommodations may not be possible, and that an alternate FP should be provided if someone cannot use a booked FP on a ride they cannot fit into.

I'm not sure how a lift could be made to work here, and can imagine that adding so much time to loading time as to make it infeasible.

That said, I cannot imagine what additional liability issues a lift would cause. My brother-in-law is an attorney at the DOJ working primarily on accessibility issues related to the ADA. Pool lifts, etc. are well-established tools used by MANY companies, and they don't increase the organization's liability -- they actually put them into compliance with the ADA.

I think it's in the fact that ride CMs are not supposed to in a position to do that kind of thing. Life guards and such are specifically trained for those types of lifts. A whole new set of training would need to be put in place for a lift like that to be used. I also like you don't think it would be feasible to have such a lift on a ride like this.

 

[rteetz]

Here is the review Craig and Corey did on Pandora

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I think it's in the fact that ride CMs are not supposed to in a position to do that kind of thing. Life guards and such are specifically trained for those types of lifts. A whole new set of training would need to be put in place for a lift like that to be used. I also like you don't think it would be feasible to have such a lift on a ride like this.

Like I said -- I don't think it would be feasible either because of loading time.

I disagree that there is ANY liability issue. I don't think training can be an excuse. Lifeguards were obviously never trained in these lifts until the ADA essentially forced facilities with pools to put the lifts in. It becomes a cost of doing business -- pretty plain and simple.

 

[saskdw]

Could we create a separate thread for pooh sized people to discuss not fitting on rides?

This discussion has completely hijacked and ruined this thread.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Here is the review Craig and Corey did on Pandora

How is this video as far as spoiling things? Is there footage of the queues and or ride video of the river ride? I'd love to hear their review but also am trying not to spoil everything for me

Thanks!

 

[rteetz]

Could we create a separate thread for pooh sized people to discuss not fitting on rides?

This discussion has completely hijacked and ruined this thread.

I understand your point however it's a valid discussion for this thread. Any new important info will be added to the first page.

 

[hiroMYhero]

How is this video as far as spoiling things? Is there footage of the queues and or ride video of the river ride? I'd love to hear their review but also am trying not to spoil everything for me

Thanks!

Don't watch it. Ride scenes included.

 

[rteetz]

How is this video as far as spoiling things? Is there footage of the queues and or ride video of the river ride? I'd love to hear their review but also am trying not to spoil everything for me

Thanks!

Since I don't mind spoiling things for myself I have watched everything that's out there. Their review discusses the entire land including rides, food, and merchandise. They show some photos of the ride systems and inside the boat ride but nothing that we really haven't already seen. They also show a couple photos from the FoP queue. It depends on how much you don't want to know going in.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Don't watch it. Ride scenes included.

Since I don't mind spoiling things for myself I have watched everything that's out there. Their review discusses the entire land including rides, food, and merchandise. They show some photos of the ride systems and inside the boat ride but nothing that we really haven't already seen. They also show a couple photos from the FoP queue. It depends on how much you don't want to know going in.

Thanks so much - if it is largely stills I might give it a go as I am interested in their take on things, especially the food. Might try to avert my eyes/skip over some parts though

edit: video footage of river ride at beginning so skipped over that and then appears to be the part from the Tuesday Podcast where Corey and Craig talked about it.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Could we create a separate thread for pooh sized people to discuss not fitting on rides?

This discussion has completely hijacked and ruined this thread.

Really this concern isn't just for pooh sized people...................it's already been discussed that the concern is for taller people and also discussed that truthfully there are people who just have different porportion sizes may not fit as well in this ride. That can include all sorts of people--ones who have long legs, one where the back restraint hits in an interesting spot, ones where it's been briefly mentioned for larger cheated females, ones for kids.....so yeah....not just for pooh sized people.

We just need more information, more people riding, etc to get a better idea. This thread should be perfect for that as time goes on with the previews happening and the first days of it being open.

 

[saskdw]

Really this concern isn't just for pooh sized people...................it's already been discussed that the concern is for taller people and also discussed that truthfully there are people who just have different porportion sizes may not fit as well in this ride. That can include all sorts of people--ones who have long legs, one where the back restraint hits in an interesting spot, ones where it's been briefly mentioned for larger cheated females, ones for kids.....so yeah....not just for pooh sized people.

We just need more information, more people riding, etc to get a better idea. This thread should be perfect for that as time goes on with the previews happening and the first days of it being open.

The problem is that it's completely taken over the thread. It should have its own thread. Those not interested in that discussion have to sift through 100's of posts to get to something interesting about Pandora which is the title of the thread.

 

[robinb]

How is this video as far as spoiling things? Is there footage of the queues and or ride video of the river ride? I'd love to hear their review but also am trying not to spoil everything for me

Thanks!

I just watched it and skipped when they started to discuss the rides.

 

[RnbwSktles]

Oh boy, it sounds like Disney needs to start creating all rides to just be couches bolted to floating barges so that all tall, short, overweight, underweight, dis-proportioned, people with bad knees, and people with sensitive rear-ends can be comfortable

Everything at Pandora looks awesome. I just keep thinking about how much ride surface-to-skin contact there is on FOP. The whole thing is doing to be a sweaty mess.

 

[hiroMYhero]

The problem is that it's completely taken over the thread. It should have its own thread. Those not interested in that discussion have to sift through 100's of posts to get to something interesting about Pandora which is the title of the thread.

Ryan is Editing and adding info and links to the initial posts of this thread. After the initial posts, anything Pandora-related is being actively discussed.

I can ask Ryan to color-code new info that he adds to the first posts.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

The problem is that it's completely taken over the thread. It should have its own thread. Those not interested in that discussion have to sift through 100's of posts to get to something interesting about Pandora which is the title of the thread.

This happens all the time on these bigger threads. A topic comes up, gets traction and a lot of posts, more info comes in that resolves, and that discussion goes back down to a trickle. All part of participating on a message board -- scrolling past them in the meantime isn't that difficult!!

 

[wilkeliza]

Oh boy, it sounds like Disney needs to start creating all rides to just be couches bolted to floating barges so that all tall, short, overweight, underweight, dis-proportioned, people with bad knees, and people with sensitive rear-ends can be comfortable

Everything at Pandora looks awesome. I just keep thinking about how much ride surface-to-skin contact there is on FOP. The whole thing is doing to be a sweaty mess.

Why the need to be so snarky in your post. It is a darn shame that when people ask about legitimate concerns others who don't experience them act so hurt by the topic. Seriously if it doesn't affect you just scroll past the conversation.

 

[MickeyMinnieMom]

I just keep thinking about how much ride surface-to-skin contact there is on FOP. The whole thing is doing to be a sweaty mess.

We were joking (maybe?) last night that Disney is leaving money on the table if they don't sell plastic pants (think ponchos) for people to slip on before riding FoP... I started out with hazmat suit and we settled on pants only... prioritizing...

 

[TheMaxRebo]

We were joking (maybe?) last night that Disney is leaving money on the table if they don't sell plastic pants (think ponchos) for people to slip on before riding FoP... I started out with hazmat suit and we settled on pants only... prioritizing...

or at a minimum a moist towelette

 

[hiroMYhero]

or at a minimum a moist towelette

That's what I was thinking. Similar to cart wipes at grocery stores: Pandora seat and chest protector wipes that are bioluminescent!