"Official" Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party 2017 - Believe in the Magic

[DisneyMom93]

That sounds ridiculous! If they want to prevent scheduling them, then by all means have at it. But to reach in and arbitrarily grab some back is just terrible. Can you imagine if that was someone's day they got a FoP fastpass? They treat guest plans with such a cavalier attitude any more.

Yeah, it's crazy. They should not allow them to be booked. Hopefully they are working on that.

Some people are canceling the FPs they booked for the party. Others are holding out. I personally wouldn't risk it. And at this point they can't claim ignorance. Well, they can claim it, but it probably won't help.

 

[JadeDarkstar]

the 4-7pm fp+'s are being removed?

 

[DisneyMom93]

the 4-7pm fp+'s are being removed?

Actually what's being removed is the last day of FPs they have.

If the party is on the last day of their MDE then yes the 4-7pm FPs are being removed. If the party is any other day of the week in their MDE, the last days FPs are being removed. So ANY FPs booked on their last day are the ones that will be removed.

So they will need to go in their MDE and remove the party FPs before their last day's FPs are removed by the system.

 

[LoganBrown1990]

We're doing a Christmas beach trip with my wife's family 12/21-12/30. A few of us REALLY want to sneak away to Disney to get our fix In the past, we've gone on the 30th. This year we were thinking about doing a party night instead. I know the last couple of nights are almost guaranteed to sell out, but I'm guessing that looks a LOT different than the leveled closings we experienced in the past! We'd be using our time mainly for rides. Any feedback on whether 8 hours during a sold out party is better than all day at maxed out park? Thanks!

 

[JadeDarkstar]

This is not good, I need all my FP's even my two party days I have. My last day is not a party day but wow what a cheap and crappy way for Disney to change something. *Shakes head* nickel and dime, hour by hour, getting less and less for what you pay for."

 

[mom2rtk]

Yeah, it's crazy. They should not allow them to be booked. Hopefully they are working on that.

Some people are canceling the FPs they booked for the party. Others are holding out. I personally wouldn't risk it. And at this point they can't claim ignorance. Well, they can claim it, but it probably won't help.

It's ridiculous to just assume people would know this. It's not stated on the ticket, it's just "allowed" on MDE. And the number of people who read Disney message boards is a very small percentage of the people who attend.

 

[DisneyMom93]

This is not good, I need all my FP's even my two party days I have. My last day is not a party day but wow what a cheap and crappy way for Disney to change something. *Shakes head* nickel and dime, hour by hour, getting less and less for what you pay for."

Well it's the Halloween party guests having the issues so far. But maybe that's because you can't book FPs for November and December yet???

Technically party guests aren't paying for, or entitled to, anything before 7pm. Party starts at 7pm. There are no FPs for the party.

But Disney should fix the issue in MDE to prevent people losing FPs they want on non-party days!

 

[DisneyMom93]

It's ridiculous to just assume people would know this. It's not stated on the ticket, it's just "allowed" on MDE. And the number of people who read Disney message boards is a very small percentage of the people who attend.

True, but at the same time, I think it's the DIS message board people who keep trying to come up with ways to get extra FPs.

FPs aren't included in the party time. Many guests don't know they can enter before 7pm. So they wouldn't think to book FPs before 7pm.

At least Disney is sending out emails to advise them. I think they have 24 hours to remove them. Hopefully no one loses any FPs for their park days.

I totally understand party guests being upset they may lose the FPs they were able to book with their party tickets, but it really is more fair to the guests who paid for MK park entry tickets until closing for the party.

 

[mom2rtk]

True, but at the same time, I think it's the DIS message board people who keep trying to come up with ways to get extra FPs.

FPs aren't included in the party time. Many guests don't know they can enter before 7pm. So they wouldn't think to book FPs before 7pm.

At least Disney is sending out emails to advise them. I think they have 24 hours to remove them. Hopefully no one loses any FPs for their park days.

I totally understand party guests being upset they may lose the FPs they were able to book with their party tickets, but it really is more fair to the guests who paid for MK park entry tickets until closing for the party.

OK, I missed the part about sending an email giving 24 hours to remove them. If that's the case, it's much more palatable.

But honestly, they need to find ways to make their system capability match their policy. In other words, if they don't want people to book on a party ticket, the system needs to reject it. Or at least put the policy in writing that comes with the ticket or something.

 

[DisneyMom93]

OK, I missed the part about sending an email giving 24 hours to remove them. If that's the case, it's much more palatable.

But honestly, they need to find ways to make their system capability match their policy. In other words, if they don't want people to book on a party ticket, the system needs to reject it. Or at least put the policy in writing that comes with the ticket or something.

Agreed.

 

[Disney Bear]

OK, I missed the part about sending an email giving 24 hours to remove them. If that's the case, it's much more palatable.

But honestly, they need to find ways to make their system capability match their policy. In other words, if they don't want people to book on a party ticket, the system needs to reject it. Or at least put the policy in writing that comes with the ticket or something.

I agree although I am not sure how Disney would know what day you are planning to use your park tickets on. If you have a 4 days park tickets and a party ticket and you plan to use them over 5 days how would Disney know you are not planning to use them over 4 days (day ticket and party on the same day) and that would mean if you did 5 days of fast passes that your fifth day are the ones not valid. But I do agree they need to make sure they system is very clear.

 

[DisneyMom93]

I agree although I am not sure how Disney would know what day you are planning to use your park tickets on. If you have a 4 days park tickets and a party ticket and you plan to use them over 5 days how would Disney know you are not planning to use them over 4 days (day ticket and party on the same day) and that would mean if you did 5 days of fast passes that your fifth day are the ones not valid. But I do agree they need to make sure they system is very clear.

Good point.

 

[DisneyMom93]

Agreed.

I just checked the email you get after you book a party ticket.

It says you may now book Fasspass+ if you've added a THEME PARK TICKET. Party tickets are not theme park tickets.

It also states under the *Valid theme park admission is required.

 

[mom2rtk]

I agree although I am not sure how Disney would know what day you are planning to use your park tickets on. If you have a 4 days park tickets and a party ticket and you plan to use them over 5 days how would Disney know you are not planning to use them over 4 days (day ticket and party on the same day) and that would mean if you did 5 days of fast passes that your fifth day are the ones not valid. But I do agree they need to make sure they system is very clear.

I'm just thinking that party tickets need to be coded in some way to not allow them to schedule FPs at all. You know, if that's their intention. I think they should just allow it, given the high price of the tickets. But if they don't want to allow it, then they need to find a way for their tech to disallow it.

 

[mom2rtk]

I just checked the email you get after you book a party ticket.

It says you may now book Fasspass+ if you've purchased THEME PARK TICKETS. Party tickets are not theme park tickets.

It also states under the *Valid theme park admission is required.

I'm thinking the average non-DIS visitor would consider a party ticket to be a theme park ticket.

 

[DisneyMom93]

I'm thinking the average non-DIS visitor would consider a party ticket to be a theme park ticket.

I know what you're saying. But it's not a theme park ticket. It's a Special Event ticket. I think most people who purchase them know the difference.

 

[monica9]

True, but at the same time, I think it's the DIS message board people who keep trying to come up with ways to get extra FPs.

FPs aren't included in the party time. Many guests don't know they can enter before 7pm. So they wouldn't think to book FPs before 7pm.

At least Disney is sending out emails to advise them. I think they have 24 hours to remove them. Hopefully no one loses any FPs for their park days.

I totally understand party guests being upset they may lose the FPs they were able to book with their party tickets, but it really is more fair to the guests who paid for MK park entry tickets until closing for the party.

I agree.

 

[DisneyMom93]

I'm just thinking that party tickets need to be coded in some way to not allow them to schedule FPs at all. You know, if that's their intention. I think they should just allow it, given the high price of the tickets. But if they don't want to allow it, then they need to find a way for their tech to disallow it.

I agree about coding, but I disagree about FPs being allowed before the party starts. I think the MK guests who PAID for entry that day until 6pm should be the only ones entitled to FPs. It's more fair to them. Party guests are still allowed to go on rides Standby, which in my opinion is bad enough (for MK ticket holders) when the park is closing at 6pm.

It's a courtesy Disney gives to party guests that they can enter before 7pm. They can also book ADRs before the party. Allowing them in 3 hours earlier isn't fair to MK day guests IMO.

 

[mom2rtk]

I know what you're saying. But it's not a theme park ticket. It's a Special Event ticket. I think most people who purchase them know the difference.

It needs to be clear if that is their intention. Either code it to reject party tickets or state clearly "Party tickets are not eligible for FP." Clarity is good.

I agree about coding, but I disagree about FPs being allowed before the party starts. I think the MK guests who PAID for entry that day until 6pm should be the only ones entitled to FPs. It's more fair to them. Party guests are still allowed to go on rides Standby, which in my opinion is bad enough (for MK ticket holders) when the park is closing at 6pm.

It's a courtesy Disney gives to party guests that they can enter before 7pm. They can also book ADRs before the party. Allowing them in 3 hours earlier isn't fair to MK day guests IMO.

Regardless, it's not my choice or yours. Disney gets to do what they want with it. But they need to be clear about what is included.

Allowing people in 3 hours early isn't my choice or yours either. If you don't like it, you probably should choose another day to visit the MK.

 

[DisneyMom93]

I'm thinking the average non-DIS visitor would consider a party ticket to be a theme park ticket.

I guess they should write "If you've ALSO purchased a Theme Park ticket..."