Official Hurricane JEANNE Part Deaux

How many times can it be said this is the most unpredictable storm in a long time?

Yes, it has turned straight west for the moment. BUT it has not picked up the movement speed yet as was predicted, and it is currently losing some wind speed and strength.

I am going to post another map here as I need to refer to it.
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A new H has formed over the Virginias. This is very unusual. What this does is push the hurricane at a right angle to its winds. The upper green arrow I've drawn is winds generated by the H. The lower arrow is the winds made by Jeanne, see how they are at right angles to each other. The collision of these two wind patterns is turning Jeanne west. But Jeanne is now over cooler water which will sap strength from it. And the collision is not with that much force to make Jeanne move any faster west.

But this H is going to move east. That will also turn Jeanne around it (as the Miami hurricane center says above- this is the first time I've agreed with one of those) as well. As the H moves east Jeanne will turn to the north.

It's all going to be a race of which moves faster at this point- the H or Jeanne. Unless Jeanne shows some indication of an increase in movement speed, it should not get near anything on the Florida coast until at least very late Saturday or more likely Sunday. It is looking more like the Bahamas will at least get a pass by hit if the hurricane keeps on in the same direction.

To summarize:

It is still too soon to say if it will affect the Magic or not as far as its Saturday duties. I see Port Canaveral has already ordered all ships out by 10a Sat, so the point may be moot, unless the Port changes that order. http://www.portcanaveral.org/evacuationorder.doc

It will possibly get near the coast, but it is uncertain right now as to how near it will get or if it will actually make landfall. But it is again looking more like it will not make landfall in Florida.

Uncertain how soon it will get as far west as it can before turning north. But its movement speed is still very low at this point. There is nothing with much force making it move at this time.

Uncertain how strong it will be when it gets there. It has to pass over a lot of ocean yet, which is what really determines its strength. if it goes straight west the gulf stream could feed it. If it goes a little more north, it'll be in cooler ocean which could weaken it further.

One thing I will stress- Pay attention to local authorities! If they require you to evacuate, do so, no matter what I am saying on this. This hurricane is very unpredictable and it is better to be safe than to gamble on what myself or others are saying on it.
 
WTNT31 KNHC 240833
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BULLETIN
HURRICANE JEANNE ADVISORY NUMBER 43
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 AM EDT FRI SEP 24 2004

AT 5 AM AST...0900Z...THE GOVERNMENT OF THE BAHAMAS HAS ISSUED A
HURRICANE WARNING FOR THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS...INCLUDING THE
ABACOS...ANDROS ISLAND...BERRY ISLANDS...BIMINI...ELEUTHERA...GRAND
BAHAMA ISLAND...AND NEW PROVIDENCE. A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT
HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE
NEXT 24 HOURS.

AT 5 AM AST...0900Z...THE GOVERNMENT OF THE BAHAMAS HAS ISSUED A
TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS...INCLUDING CAT
ISLAND...THE EXUMAS...LONG ISLAND...RUM CAY...AND SAN SALVADOR. A
TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE
EXPECTED IN THE WARNING AREA IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

AT 5 AM EDT...0900Z...A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT ALONG THE EAST
COAST OF FLORIDA FROM FLORIDA CITY TO ST. AUGUSTINE...INCLUDING LAKE
OKEECHOBEE. A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE
POSSIBLE IN THE WATCH AREA IN THE NEXT 36 HOURS.

INTERESTS ELSEWHERE ON THE FLORIDA PENINSULA SHOULD CLOSELY MONITOR
THE PROGRESS OF JEANNE.

WE ARE REMINDED THAT FROM SUNDOWN TONIGHT UNTIL SUNDOWN SATURDAY IS
YOM KIPPUR...A SOLEMN JEWISH HOLIDAY. YOUR JEWISH NEIGHBORS IN THE
WATCH AND WARNING AREAS OBSERVING YOM KIPPUR WILL NOT BE LISTENING
TO RADIOS OR WATCHING TV...AND MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THE HURRICANE
SITUATION.

AT 5 AM EDT...0900Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE JEANNE WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.1 NORTH...LONGITUDE 71.6 WEST OR ABOUT 340
MILES... 550 KM...EAST OF GREAT ABACO ISLAND IN THE NORTHWESTERN
BAHAMAS.

JEANNE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 8 MPH...13 KM/HR...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE WITH SOME INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED
DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THIS MOTION COULD BRING THE CENTER OF
JEANNE NEAR THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS ON SATURDAY.

REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INDICATE
THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 100 MPH...160 KM/HR...WITH
HIGHER GUSTS. SOME SLOW STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT
24 HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 45 MILES... 75 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 140 MILES...220 KM.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY THE HURRICANE HUNTER
IS 969 MB...28.61 INCHES.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE TRACK OF
JEANNE.

TIDES WILL GRADUALLY BE RISING IN THE WARNED AREA DURING THE NEXT 24
HOURS. ADDITIONALLY...DANGEROUS SURF AND RIP CURRENTS...CAUSED BY
LARGE SWELLS GENERATED BY HURRICANE JEANNE...ARE POSSIBLE ELSEWHERE
ALONG THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. COAST AND THE NORTHWEST AND CENTRAL
BAHAMAS FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

REPEATING THE 5 AM EDT POSITION...26.1 N... 71.6 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 8 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...100 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 969 MB.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR
PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 8 AM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT
COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 11 AM EDT.

FORECASTER BEVEN


5 AM Discussion

WTNT41 KNHC 240843
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HURRICANE JEANNE DISCUSSION NUMBER 43
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 AM EDT FRI SEP 24 2004

THE INTENSITY OF JEANNE IS A BIT OF A PUZZLE THIS MORNING. AN AIR
FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT MEASURED A CENTRAL PRESSURE
OF 969 MB...WHICH WOULD NORMALLY SUPPORT WINDS OF NEAR 90 KT.
HOWEVER...THE MAXIMUM FLIGHT-LEVEL WINDS REPORTED BY THE AIRCRAFT
AT 700 MB WERE ONLY 74 KT...WHICH WOULD SUPPORT CLOSER TO 65 KT
SURFACE WINDS. POST-ECLIPSE SATELLITE IMAGES SHOW SOME COOLING OF
THE CLOUD TOPS OVER THE SOUTH QUADRANT...BUT ALSO SHOW A MUCH LESS
DEFINED EYE. BASED MAINLY ON THE CENTRAL PRESSURE...THE INITIAL
INTENSITY IS SET TO 85 KT. HOWEVER...THIS MAY BE GENEROUS.

THE INITIAL MOTION IS NOW 270/7. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS THAT A
DEEP-LAYER ANTICYCLONE OVER THE EASTERN UNITED STATES IS NOW
CENTERED NEAR THE DELMARVA PENINSULA. LARGE-SCALE MODELS INDICATE
THIS SYSTEM WILL CONTINUE TO SHIFT TO THE SOUTHEAST AND ELONGATE
SOUTHWARD WITH TIME. THIS PATTERN EVOLUTION SHOULD KEEP JEANNE ON
A GENERAL WESTWARD COURSE FOR 36-48 HR...FOLLOWED BY A TURN TOWARD
THE NORTHWEST AND EVENTUAL RECURVATURE INTO THE WESTERLIES. THE
TIMING OF THE TURN IS STILL IN QUESTION...AS THE GFDL HAS SHIFTED
FAR ENOUGH TO THE EAST TO MISS THE FLORIDA COAST...WHILE THE NOGAPS
DRIVES JEANNE ACROSS SOUTHERN FLORIDA TO THE GULF OF MEXICO BEFORE
RECURVATURE. THE OTHER DYNAMICAL MODELS ARE BETWEEN THESE TWO
EXTREMES. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK KEEPS JEANNE ON THE LEFT SIDE
OF THE GUIDANCE DURING THE FIRST 36-48 HR...AS THE RIDGE TO THE
NORTH MAY NOT ALLOW AS MUCH NORTHWARD MOTION AS SHOWN BY THE GFDL
AND GFS. AFTER THAT...THE TRACK FOLLOWS THE MODEL CONSENSUS.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE UKMET AGAIN APPEARS TO BE TOO FAST IN
THE FIRST 12 HR.

THE AIRCRAFT DATA INDICATES THAT JEANNE CURRENTLY HAS A BROAD WIND
FIELD...WITH A RADIUS OF MAXIMUM WINDS OF 35-45 NM. BETWEEN THAT
AND THE COLD UPWELLING WATER THE HURRICANE IS CURRENTLY OVER...
LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS LIKELY FOR 12 HR OR SO. BEYOND THAT
TIME...JEANNE SHOULD MOVE OVER 82F WATER AND REACH 83-84F WATER BY
36 HR. THIS COULD ALLOW FOR MORE SIGNIFICANT STRENGTHENING IF THE
STORM STRUCTURE HAS REORGANIZED BY THAT TIME...AND THE INTENSITY
FORECAST CALLS FOR JEANNE TO REACH 100 KT INTENSITY IN 48 HR. THIS
IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN BOTH SHIPS AND THE GFDL. AFTER 48 HR...A
COMBINATION OF INCREASING SOUTHWESTERLY VERTICAL SHEAR AND LAND
INTERACTION SHOULD PRODUCE STEADY WEAKENING.

THE FORECAST TRACK AND WIND RADII REQUIRE A HURRICANE WARNING FOR
THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS...A TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR THE CENTRAL
BAHAMAS...AND A HURRICANE WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF THE FLORIDA EAST
COAST AT THIS TIME.

FORECASTER BEVEN

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 24/0900Z 26.1N 71.6W 85 KT
12HR VT 24/1800Z 26.1N 73.1W 85 KT
24HR VT 25/0600Z 26.2N 75.4W 90 KT
36HR VT 25/1800Z 26.6N 77.6W 95 KT
48HR VT 26/0600Z 27.1N 79.5W 100 KT
72HR VT 27/0600Z 30.0N 81.5W 80 KT...INLAND
96HR VT 28/0600Z 34.0N 78.5W 50 KT...INLAND
120HR VT 29/0600Z 39.5N 69.5W 35 KT...OVER WATER
 
question any body if all ships have to be out of port by 10 sat am whats the chances of us setting sail
 

WTNT31 KNHC 241142
TCPAT1
BULLETIN
HURRICANE JEANNE INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 43A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
8 AM EDT FRI SEP 24 2004

...JEANNE CONTINUING TO MOVE WESTWARD TOWARD THE NORTHERN BAHAMAS...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS...
INCLUDING THE ABACOS...ANDROS ISLAND...BERRY ISLANDS...BIMINI...
ELEUTHERA...GRAND BAHAMA ISLAND...AND NEW PROVIDENCE. A HURRICANE
WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THE WARNING
AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT ALONG THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM
FLORIDA CITY TO ST. AUGUSTINE...INCLUDING LAKE OKEECHOBEE. A
HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE
WATCH AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS...
INCLUDING CAT ISLAND...THE EXUMAS...LONG ISLAND...RUM CAY...AND SAN
SALVADOR. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24
HOURS.

INTERESTS ELSEWHERE ON THE FLORIDA PENINSULA SHOULD CLOSELY MONITOR
THE PROGRESS OF JEANNE.

WE ARE REMINDED THAT FROM SUNDOWN TONIGHT UNTIL SUNDOWN SATURDAY IS
YOM KIPPUR...A SOLEMN JEWISH HOLIDAY. YOUR JEWISH NEIGHBORS IN THE
WATCH AND WARNING AREAS OBSERVING YOM KIPPUR WILL NOT BE LISTENING
TO RADIOS OR WATCHING TV...AND MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THE HURRICANE
SITUATION.

AT 8 AM EDT...1200Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE JEANNE WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.1 NORTH...LONGITUDE 72.0 WEST OR ABOUT 315
MILES...505 KM...EAST OF GREAT ABACO ISLAND IN THE NORTHWESTERN
BAHAMAS.

JEANNE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 8 MPH...13 KM/HR...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE WITH SOME INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED
DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THIS MOTION COULD BRING THE CENTER OF
JEANNE NEAR THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS ON SATURDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 100 MPH...160 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME SLOW STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT 24
HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 45 MILES... 75 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 140 MILES...220 KM.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 969 MB...28.61 INCHES.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE TRACK OF
JEANNE.

TIDES WILL GRADUALLY BE RISING IN THE WARNED AREA DURING THE NEXT 24
HOURS. ADDITIONALLY...DANGEROUS SURF AND RIP CURRENTS...CAUSED BY
LARGE SWELLS GENERATED BY HURRICANE JEANNE...ARE POSSIBLE ELSEWHERE
ALONG THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. COAST AND THE NORTHWEST AND CENTRAL
BAHAMAS FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

REPEATING THE 8 AM EDT POSITION...26.1 N... 72.0 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 8 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...100 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 969 MB.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR
PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER
AT 11 AM EDT.

FORECASTER STEWART
 
Originally posted by MarkRG
Feel free to ask questions, I'll try to answer them as best I can. Be as detailed as possible in the asking, but I exempt one question right now.

What track will it take, I'm waiting on Ivan to move to make a decision on that, the pattern for the whole area is shifting right now.

I have a question on who you are? In all the hurricane threads, I have seen little if any of your posts.

I'm not trying to be rude or anything--just wondering why I perhaps am to believe your reports over my local metorologists. Do you have a metorological certification or just a super large interest in meteorological events--or are you just hashing together all your best resources and providing your best educated guess. Right now, Jeanne has sped up and she's moving westward which you admitted you didn't think she would do. So just curious as to your knowledge base to be able to determine her movement and your vested interest in posting. Sorry for the skepticism--I hope you understand. I really am not trying to flame your or debunk your or anything. I just really want to understand where you are coming from (Chicago?).

It seems in Brevard County, none of us are waiting for the EOC to issue anything as we all know the drill and are right back at square 1. At least this time I don't have to go to Home Depot :)

Good luck everybody on your cruises--pending Port Canaveral Orders (can you say Surf's UP?), cruises should be okay for Saturday. BUT--they are speculating island evacuation orders to come late today or early tomorrow. I don't know how much PC feeds into that if they are trying to have passengers embark on a cruise. I'll post once I hear of orders.

In the mean time, I am so glad to be much further ahead of the game on this one. Last time--I stayed glued to the computer for toooo long and had to rush at the end. I was readying the house for my trip tomorrow anyway (if I don't leave it clean, hubby sure won't clean it ;) ) so we were all good to go there. Boards are up--I just brought in the outside items. And I ran 7 miles this morning--that tends to burn lots of stress.

My flight should be okay tomorrow a.m. :)
 
Lisa, you and DD have a fantastic time in Hawaii. Let DH worry about the hurricane!
 
Originally posted by CM_Mom
Lisa, you and DD have a fantastic time in Hawaii. Let DH worry about the hurricane!

I wish I sooo could--he was in DC all week so I had to begin without him :( God willing we don't have any damage--just a messy yard to pick up. That'll show him to travel on Business before a hurricane comes :hyper:

He was on a business trip prior to Charley--and he had to come home early from that--this one he's coming home a few hours early.

Good luck everyone with your cruises! Keep us posted on the PC orders for the ships-
 
Originally posted by wdwgirls2
Well at least I'm still packed from the last hurricane. We are on the Treasure Coast so I think we will be heading to Orlando this weekend. Here we go again...:(
OK, we have the "Land" portion of our Land/Sea HM beginning on 9/26. We are to arrive at 11:30am on Sunday. I'm trying my best to understand the hurricanes and warnings and so forth, but I don't. Is Orlando supposed to be OK this weekend?? And there was another post that said the Wonder might not set sail until Monday, so would that cruise be shorter? We are to set sail on 9/30 on the Wonder--I know it's too soon to tell what will be happening, but if one cruise is delayed will ours be too? I'm just so confused as I have never *tried* to follow hurricane paths before (I'm from MN) and this is hard to get a grasp on.
I really hope for the best--FL has been hit so hard this year and I hope you don't have to go through it all again. Sorry for my possibly stupid questions.
 
Just got a call from my TA, as of this 9 am this morning (9/24) DCL is planning business as usual for tomorrow. They said the port acutally has to be cleared by first thing Sunday morning. They did say they are going to try an off load and re-load passengers as quickly as possible and may pull out of port early. They did say if the storm track looks like it is goning to change (right now it's looking toward PC) they may move to Port Evergaldes.
 
It's ok, I understand you're stressing Lisa, and have every right to be. Jeanne has become at least a remote threat to Florida. But you don't have to take my word for it; this is the most current compilation of all the track predictions, and they are still all over the place.

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I fall into the second category, 'super large interest in meteorological events'. I have always had a deep interest in such things and have learned enough on the subject to understand a lot of the heavy technical data. You bring up Chicago, we do have our own heavy amounts of weather events up here, we just usually get tornadoes, microbursts and such, especially when the jet stream is riding right on top of us as it tends to every year at some point.

I have been participating in the discussions about each hurricane all along. I just havn't been on the threads started by Human Cookie before now as it seemed they were all of a collection of the weather service reports and didn't want to interrupt that. This one seems to be more a collection of the two, reports and observations. And to be honest, before now the rest of the hurricanes have all mostly followed the predicted track, with some minor changes. There's not been much to comment on as I mostly agreed with the predictions. They were more of an observe and hope for the best for people kind of thing. This time, its very much more complicated to predict it. A big variable just removed itself by little Ivan going ashore and weakening to the point of probably not being a direct influence on Jeanne any longer.

As for what data I can gather, I've been using a lot of the NOAA maps, the same info most of the meteorologists and computer models are using, along with some from weather.com and a few other places, including at least one local to you, orlandoweather.com.

I really don't have anything new to say from the early morning observation, except that with Ivan moving out of the picture, and Karl being north enough now, the patterns are settling down into something more predictable. Not completely though. Still do not know how far west Jeanne will travel before turning. The patterns are still not in the right position to make any kind of judgement call on that, Ivan is still influencing general weather patterns. I'll comment more if there is anything to comment on when I get home from work.


Adding this, someone posted while I was writing -
As far as Orlando is concerned, right now, it doen't look like its going to get close enough to affect them directly, but the airport may get delays/cancellations from anything spawned by the hurricane. As you said it is too soon to tell yet.
 
Mark, this is where I will take over...;)

At this point, based on the NHC current track (which we all know is SUBJECT TO CHANGE, watch the cone of doom, personally I am starting to lean toward this thing staying off shore, but it's still too early) Orlando will experience Tropical Storm force winds (winds between 39 and 79 mph are tropical storm force winds) and even Hurricane force winds. Because the windfield is pretty large tropical storm force winds will extend 140 miles from the center in all directions and hurricane force winds will extend 40 miles from the center in all directions. Based on that, MCO will have to close to air traffic at some point (chances are airlines are going to pull their aircraft out of harms way before the winds even get near 40 mph). If Jeanne continues on her path, Sunday will be the worst day, and most likely flights will be cancelled. Again, this is based on what the NHC said on its 5AM update. There is still enough time for things to really change (which is why this hurricane is giving everyone fits, usually evacuation orders are out at this point in this area and the EOC is STILL deciding).

Good luck to you cruisers.
 
HOpe this helps regarding MCO--

Remember, MCO can decide to close, but they can also stay open as possible. IN the event of inclement weather, it is the airline who can make the call on whether or not they want their planes in harm's way and usually will cancel flights prior to the airport physcially closing. So find out what your airline is doing as soon as possible--probably better known by the 5pm advisory today.

During Frances--a day before her feeder bands came along--MCO closed at 12 Noon. Southwest actually cancelled all flights that day and didn't even bother risking leaving planes down there. I am not sure what other airlines did.

I will fly on Northwest Airlines tomorrow. I called them yesterday and then spoke with my sister's fiance who works at NWA. At this point, they (there 'what do we do now' kind of people) were supposed to be meeting today (Friday) to work on their plan. As of yesterday there was nothing I could do that wouldn't cost me money...but once they decide, okay, this thing is for real, they issue their whatcha-ma-callit (I forget, it is something akin to an evac order or whatever) in which they begin to allow passengers to make changes. My sister's fiance says they send this statement out system wide and he would call me when they got this. He is working until 9pm central tonight. So if I hear anything, I can at least post on what that particular airline is doing.

It is best to call your specific airline--even if Disney booked it and find out what their protocol was for Frances and Ivan just so you know what to expect from your airline. That is what I did with NWA and they were very kind.
 
HURRICANE JEANNE EOC NEWS RELEASES

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

News Release
Friday, September 24, 2004, 9:57 A.M.

IMPORTANT NEWS BRIEFING
A series of decisions--including one on evacuation-will be announced at noon today at a briefing at the Brevard EOC in Rockledge. The county's Policy Group is waiting for the 11 a.m. National Hurricane Center forecast update to make final decisions regarding evacuations, curfews and a local emergency declaration
 
WTNT31 KNHC 241441
TCPAT1
BULLETIN
HURRICANE JEANNE ADVISORY NUMBER 44
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT FRI SEP 24 2004

...JEANNE CONTINUES ITS WESTWARD TREK TOWARD THE NORTHERN BAHAMAS...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS
...INCLUDING THE ABACOS...ANDROS ISLAND...BERRY ISLANDS...BIMINI...
ELEUTHERA...GRAND BAHAMA ISLAND...AND NEW PROVIDENCE. A HURRICANE
WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THE WARNING
AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT ALONG THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM
FLORIDA CITY TO ST. AUGUSTINE. A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT
HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE WATCH AREA IN THE NEXT 36
HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS...
INCLUDING CAT ISLAND...THE EXUMAS...LONG ISLAND...RUM CAY...AND SAN
SALVADOR. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THE WARNING AREA IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

INTERESTS ELSEWHERE ON THE FLORIDA PENINSULA SHOULD CLOSELY MONITOR
THE PROGRESS OF JEANNE.

WE ARE REMINDED THAT FROM SUNDOWN TONIGHT UNTIL SUNDOWN SATURDAY IS
YOM KIPPUR...A SOLEMN JEWISH HOLIDAY. SOME OF YOUR JEWISH NEIGHBORS
IN THE WATCH AND WARNING AREAS OBSERVING YOM KIPPUR WILL NOT BE
LISTENING TO RADIOS OR WATCHING TV...AND MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THE
HURRICANE SITUATION.

AT 11 AM EDT...1500Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE JEANNE WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 72.4 WEST OR ABOUT 290
MILES... 470 KM...EAST OF GREAT ABACO ISLAND.

JEANNE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 9 MPH...15 KM/HR...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE WITH A SLIGHT INCREASE IN FORWARD
SPEED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THIS MOTION COULD BRING THE CENTER
OF JEANNE NEAR THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS ON SATURDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 100 MPH...160 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME SLOW STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT 24
HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 45 MILES... 75 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 150 MILES...240 KM.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 969 MB...28.61 INCHES.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE TRACK OF
JEANNE.

TIDES WILL GRADUALLY BE RISING IN THE WARNED AREA DURING THE NEXT 24
HOURS. ADDITIONALLY...DANGEROUS SURF AND RIP CURRENTS...CAUSED BY
LARGE SWELLS GENERATED BY HURRICANE JEANNE...ARE POSSIBLE ELSEWHERE
ALONG THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. COAST AND THE NORTHWEST AND CENTRAL
BAHAMAS FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

REPEATING THE 11 AM EDT POSITION...26.2 N... 72.4 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 9 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...100 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 969 MB.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR
PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 2 PM EDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT
COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 5 PM EDT.

FORECASTER STEWART

11 AM Discussion

TCDAT1
HURRICANE JEANNE DISCUSSION NUMBER 44
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
11 AM EDT FRI SEP 24 2004

SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES THE EYE AND THE INNER-CORE CONVECTION
HAS BEEN ERODED BY DRY AIR WRAPPING INTO THE CENTER. HOWEVER...THE
CONVECTIVE BANDING FEATURES HAVE IMPROVED...SUGGESTING THAT THE
CIRCULATION HAS INCREASED OR AT LEAST HAS REMAINED STEADY. THEREFORE
...THE INITIAL INTENSITY REMAINS AT 85 KT...WHICH MAY STILL BE A
LITTLE GENEROUS. NEXT RECON FLIGHT WILL AT 24/18Z.

THE INITIAL MOTION IS 270/8. UPPER-AIR DATA THIS MORNING INDICATE A
DEEP-LAYER HIGH/RIDGE WAS CENTERED JUST EAST OF THE DELMARVA...
WHICH IS SOUTHEAST OF MOST OF THE NHC MODEL FORECAST POSITIONS...
ESPECIALLY THE UKMET...THAT ARE VALID AT THAT TIME. ALSO...THE
MID-LEVEL WINDS ACROSS THE FLORIDA HAVE BACKED AROUND FROM THE
NORTHEAST TO THE NORTH DURING THE PAST 12 HOURS AS AN INVERTED
TROUGH HAS MOVED WESTWARD TO THE FLORIDA EAST COAST. AS THIS
FEATURE CONTINUES TO MOVE WESTWARD...SOME WEAK RIDGING SHOULD OCCUR
BEHIND IT OVER AND EAST OF THE FLORIDA PENINSULA...WHICH MAY ACT TO
FORCE JEANNE A LITTLE SOUTH OF DUE WEST IN THE SHORT TERM. BASED ON
THE TRENDS NOTED IN THE 12Z UPPER-AIR DATA...NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE
WAS MADE TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST TRACK...EVEN THOUGH THE 06Z MODEL
GUIDANCE SHIFTED SLIGHTLY TO THE NORTH AND EAST.

THE INTENSITY FORECAST REMAINS A LITTLE TRICKY. DUE TO THE NEARLY
STATIONARY MOTION OF JEANNE THE PREVIOUS FEW DAYS...SIGNIFICANT
COLD UPWELLING HAS OCCURRED BENEATH THE HURRICANE. HOWEVER...LATEST
SUBJECTIVE SST ANALYSES BASED ON BUOY AND SHIP OBS INDICATE JEANNE
IS BEGINNING TO MOVE FROM A REGION OF 79F SSTS TOWARD WARMER WATER.
AN EAST-WEST SST THERMAL RIDGE ALSO EXTENDS JUST NORTH OF 26N
LATITUDE...ALONG THE PATH THAT JEANNE IS EXPECTED TO TAKE. SSTS
CONTINUE TO INCREASE TO 84F OVER THE NORTHERN BAHAMAS. THIS WOULD
GENERALLY SUGGEST THAT STEADY INTENSIFICATION SHOULD OCCUR...
ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE FAVORABLE UPPER-LEVEL OUTFLOW PATTERN. THE MAIN
HINDERING INFLUENCE NOW APPEARS TO BE THE DRY AIR SURROUNDING
JEANNE THAT HAS GRADUALLY BEEN WORKING ITS WAY INTO THE CENTER.
UNTIL THIS DRY AIR MIXES OUT...LITTLE OR NO STRENGTHENING SHOULD
OCCUR. THE INTENSITY FORECAST CLOSELY FOLLOWS THE SHIPS INTENSITY
MODEL...WITH ANY SIGNIFICANT INTENSIFICATION LIKELY NOT OCCURRING
UNTIL JEANNE REACHES THE NORTHERN BAHAMAS. JUST PRIOR TO LANDFALL
...SOUTHWESTERLY SHEAR MAY INITIATE A WEAKENING TREND. HOWEVER...
JEANNE COULD STILL BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE OVER THE BAHAMAS AND/OR
JUST PRIOR TO LANDFALL. NOTE...IF EXPECTED LANDFALL OCCURS A LITTLE
LATER THAN CURRENTLY FORECAST...THEN THE INTENSITIES BEYOND 48
HOURS WOULD BE HIGHER.

FORECASTER STEWART

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INITIAL 24/1500Z 26.2N 72.4W 85 KT
12HR VT 25/0000Z 26.2N 74.1W 85 KT
24HR VT 25/1200Z 26.4N 76.6W 90 KT
36HR VT 26/0000Z 26.8N 78.9W 95 KT
48HR VT 26/1200Z 27.9N 80.7W 95 KT...INLAND
72HR VT 27/1200Z 30.7N 81.9W 65 KT...INLAND
96HR VT 28/1200Z 34.5N 78.0W 45 KT...INLAND
120HR VT 29/1200Z 40.0N 69.5W 35 KT...OVER WATER
 
Hi Lisa

Forgive me for asking. I am sure I missed it somewhere
but who is having to evacuate? I have also been watching the hurricane situation. My Family has a family reunion cruise scheduled for Oct 16 that we have been planning for 2 years. I also have family in Florida. Any idea how CC is suppose to fair? Is Jeannie supposet to hit anywhere near it?

Have a great trip tomorrow.

Thanks
Barb
 
The evacuations are for those people living on the barrier islands, Merritt Island, mobile homes, and low lying areas. in Brevard County (that is what Lisa was talking about). I am not sure about evacuations in Indian River County, St. Lucie County, or any other counties.

I know I said earlier maybe it would stay off shore, I don't think the water vapor and ridges are cooperating. I am starting to think Frances all over again. :( Again, still too early to tell, but the NHC has changed some of the probabilities.
 
My apologie...

I live in Brevard County--though not clear on my sidebar.

Brevard County, at 6 am on Saturday, a mandatory evacuation for the Barrier Islands, Merritt Island, and Mobile Home Communities.

The Port is on a Barrier Island, so would fall under that evac order. However, this is for people who live on the islands. Our Emergency Mgmt group said that other counties have earlier, and some later evacuations.

I'm sorry to have frightened you since you have been planning your cruise for 2 years.

Evacuations are only temporary things--until the danger of the storm has passed and the evacuation areas have been deemed safe for residents to return. This hurricane will certainly have no effect on your October 16th cruise. It may cause problems for those departing this weekend.

As for Castaway Cay--with Frances' onslaught--CC did fairly well considering it was only closed for maybe a week or 2 after the hurricane. Can't vouch for what will happen with this hurricane :( I am not certain of which particular island it is on a map--but Jeanne is going to move west directly over the Bahamas.

Margin of error is still pretty wide--currently slated for landfall near Melbourne--but still room to happen anywhere along the coast.
 
WTNT31 KNHC 241739
TCPAT1
BULLETIN
HURRICANE JEANNE INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 44A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
2 PM EDT FRI SEP 24 2004

...JEANNE MOVING WESTWARD AT A SLIGHTLY FASTER FORWARD SPEED...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS
...INCLUDING THE ABACOS...ANDROS ISLAND...BERRY ISLANDS...BIMINI...
ELEUTHERA...GRAND BAHAMA ISLAND...AND NEW PROVIDENCE. A HURRICANE
WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THE WARNING
AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT ALONG THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA FROM
FLORIDA CITY TO ST. AUGUSTINE. THE HURRICANE WATCH MAY BE EXTENDED
NORTHWARD LATER TODAY. A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE
CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE WATCH AREA IN THE NEXT 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE CENTRAL BAHAMAS...
INCLUDING CAT ISLAND...THE EXUMAS...LONG ISLAND...RUM CAY...AND SAN
SALVADOR. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM
CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THE WARNING AREA IN THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

INTERESTS ELSEWHERE ON THE FLORIDA PENINSULA SHOULD CLOSELY MONITOR
THE PROGRESS OF JEANNE.

WE ARE REMINDED THAT FROM SUNDOWN TONIGHT UNTIL SUNDOWN SATURDAY IS
YOM KIPPUR...A SOLEMN JEWISH HOLIDAY. SOME OF YOUR JEWISH NEIGHBORS
IN THE WATCH AND WARNING AREAS OBSERVING YOM KIPPUR WILL NOT BE
LISTENING TO RADIOS OR WATCHING TV...AND MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THE
HURRICANE SITUATION.

AT 2 PM EDT...1800Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE JEANNE WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.3 NORTH...LONGITUDE 72.9 WEST OR ABOUT 255
MILES... 415 KM...EAST OF GREAT ABACO ISLAND.

JEANNE IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 12 MPH...19 KM/HR...AND THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE WITH A SLIGHT INCREASE IN FORWARD
SPEED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. THIS MOTION COULD BRING THE CENTER
OF JEANNE NEAR THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS ON SATURDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 100 MPH...160 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT
24 HOURS.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 45 MILES... 75 KM...
FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP
TO 150 MILES...240 KM.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 969 MB...28.61 INCHES.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE TRACK OF
JEANNE.

TIDES WILL GRADUALLY BE RISING IN THE WARNED AREA DURING THE NEXT 24
HOURS. ADDITIONALLY...DANGEROUS SURF AND RIP CURRENTS...CAUSED BY
LARGE SWELLS GENERATED BY HURRICANE JEANNE...ARE POSSIBLE ELSEWHERE
ALONG THE SOUTHEASTERN U.S. COAST AND THE NORTHWEST AND CENTRAL
BAHAMAS FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

REPEATING THE 2 PM EDT POSITION...26.3 N... 72.9 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 12 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...100 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 969 MB.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR
PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER
AT 5 PM EDT.

FORECASTER STEWART
 

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