Obama Uncovered...

[yeartolate]

If YOU, looked it up, you would have seen that McCain was COMPLETELY cleared of ANY wrong doing in this case.

I will agree with this if you agree that any of Obama's "guilt by association" is bogus as well.

 

[Anewman]

[FONT=times new roman,times]1. $120,349. Other People's Money. [/FONT]

[FONT=times new roman,times]Senator Obama received more political contribution money from now-collapsed mortgage banks Fannie Mae [Federal National Mortgage Association] and Freddie Mac[Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corp] than all but one of the 353 other senators and congressmen who received political contributions from these two entities which were recently taken over by the federal government. [/FONT]

According to New York Times, Freddie Mac..

paid $15,000 a month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain’s campaign manager from the end of 2005 through last month...
The disclosure contradicts a statement Sunday night by Mr. McCain that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had no involvement with the company for the last several years. Mr. Davis’s firm received the payments from the company, Freddie Mac, until it was taken over by the government this month along with Fannie Mae

 

[MossMan]

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html

You want to vote for McCain. Good. I'm pretty sure McCain would make a good leader and I'm also pretty sure it isn't very difficult to find the reasons why he would make a good leader.

I'll tell what doesn't make John McCain a better potential President - insinuations about Obama. Particularly when those insinuations are ridiculously easy to dismiss. I'm not more impressed by McCain when he or his surrogates make accusations against Obama that are obviously misleading.

Consider this story.

Last month the McCain campaign returned over $50,000 in political contributions it had received in part from Jordanian businessmen. (Read the story here.)

There are two ways to approach this information.

1. A supporter of McCain went overboard in soliciting contributions for the McCain campaign. When they found out the money may have come from overseas, the McCain campaign returned the money.​

Or

2. A sinister Middle Eastern connection forged ties with McCain and attempted to thwart American laws and funnel contributions to McCain. These illegal contributions were only returned when these ties came to light.​

I say we go with explanation number one. But I'm sure there are Obama supporters who think it would make Obama a better potential President if they pushed number 2. Those Obama supporters who think like that would be wrong.

 

[LuvDuke]

Still no photos of Obama in a Speedo.

 

[allison443]

[/INDENT][FONT=times new roman,times]Almost unbelievably, but nevertheless true, on September 11, 2001, Mr. Ayers told the New York Times in an interview, "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough."[/FONT]

KennyD
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I will just address this very tiny perhaps insignificant part of the OP. Wow, can you believe Ayers said that quote on September 11, 2001!! Oh wait, the Times interview with Ayers about his memoir, which included the above quote, was published in the paper THE MORNING OF September 11, 2001, so gee, I'm pretty sure he said it before the twin towers were struck that day. Believe me, on September 11, the staff of the New York Times was not running around conducting interviews with radical ex-hippies from Chicago.
The way the above quote is written really makes it sound like Ayers said that statement on September 11, 2001, doesn't it? Do you think that is accurate?

 

[crazyforgoofy]

Still no photos of Obama in a Speedo.

Ah, but a girl can dream.

 

[DVCKennyD]

Ah, but a girl can dream.

Fair enough Truce... You have your Obama dream and I'll take Palin

KennyD

 

[yeartolate]

Fair enough Truce... You have your Obama dream and I'll take Palin

KennyD

For the love of God and country....please take her.

 

["Got Disney"]

For the ZILLIONTH time....Not all McCain Supporters are Conservatives.

I get that....but it sounds like you are making a protest vote, and IMO we can not afford that...We have over 100,000 troops in Iraq, a deteriorating situation in Afghanistan, an economy in shambles, a supreme court poised to overturn roe v wade, a vp who wants women who are raped and the victim of incest to not have a choice, continued intrusion of religion in our political processes and in our bedrooms.....I understand your anger, I hear it every day trust me...We just cant afford more of the same

Trust you nothing....Why do so many OS think that us HS are voting for McCain or not voting for Obama because we are angry that Hillary did not get the NOD...did you ever seem to think that we dont think he is the man that he says he is....

A great story maybe to you, but not to everyone. He has had shady friends, and shady supporters. Clinton was more to the center than Obama will ever be and alot of Clinton supporters are the same way. McCain is more centerist than Obama.

Moderate here with a lean to the left Obama is very far Left and I keep waiting for him to tip over .....Hillary not so left....McCain Moderate with a lean to the Right....

Still no photos of Obama in a Speedo.

....I think he would look better in surfer shorts....but if you want speedo's....one cant argue taste

 

[Uncle Remus]

How do y'all explain this?:

Two reports tonight, one from the New York Times, and the other from Newsweek, contradict John McCain's statement this week that his campaign manager Rick Davis had no involvement with mortgage giant Freddie Mac for the last several years. The Times reports:

One of the giant mortgage companies at the heart of the credit crisis paid $15,000 a month to a firm owned by Senator John McCain's campaign manager from the end of 2005 through last month, according to two people with direct knowledge of the arrangement. The disclosure contradicts a statement Sunday night by Mr. McCain that the campaign manager, Rick Davis, had no involvement with the company for the last several years. Mr. Davis's firm received the payments from the company, Freddie Mac, until it was taken over by the government this month along with Fannie Mae, the other big mortgage lender whose deteriorating finances helped precipitate the cascading problems on Wall Street, the people said...

...On Sunday, in an interview with CNBC and The New York Times, Mr. McCain responded to a question about Mr. Davis's role in the advocacy group through 2005 by saying that his campaign manager "has had nothing to do with it since, and I'll be glad to have his record examined by anybody who wants to look at it."


Newsweek confirms the story:

Freddie Mac had previously paid an advocacy group run by Davis, called the Homeownership Alliance, $30,000 a month until the end 2005, when that group was dissolved. That relationship was the subject of a New York Times story Monday, which drew angry denunciations from the McCain campaign. McCain and his aides have vehemently objected to suggestions that Davis has ties to Freddie Mac-an especially sensitive issue given that the Republican presidential candidate has blamed "the lobbyists, politicians and bureaucrats" for the mortgage crisis that recently prompted the Bush administration to take over both Freddie Mac and its companion, Fannie Mae, and put it under federal conservatorship.

But neither the Times story -- nor the McCain campaign -- revealed that Davis's firm, the Washington, D.C. based lobbying firm Davis Manafort, continued to receive $15,000 a month from Freddie Mac until last month-long after the Homeownership Alliance had been terminated. The two sources, who requested anonymity discussing sensitive information, told Newsweek that Davis himself approached Freddie Mac in 2006 and asked for a new consulting arrangement that would allow his firm to continue to be paid. The arrangement was approved by Hollis McLoughlin, Freddie Mac's vice president for external relations, because "he [Davis] was John McCain's campaign manager and it was felt you couldn't say no," said one of the sources. [McLoughlin did not return phone calls].


Here's video of McCain from 60 Minutes on Sunday denying Davis had anything to do Freddie Mac: Video

 

[LaraK]

How do y'all explain this?:

I say all politicians are scum, but you have to choose the scum you back. I'd rather have typical scum than someone who is a Socialist and actively worked to indoctrinate children to the socialist manifesto.

Interesting, I think that this is the reason so many people are energized by Palin. She seems to be a relatively clean politician. Even the "scandel" that seems to be going on was her getting pissed because a guy threatened to kill her father and tasered her nephew...I'm ok with her getting pissed and wanting that guy fired.

 

[Mermaid02]

Oh come on.....That would have been funny. Especially if the photo had him in bed with Ayers or one of those guys.

I think we need MORE doctored photos of the candidates.

Sorry- guess the tone in my voice didn't come through.... I think Obama is a good looking guy.....

 

[Pin Wizard]

I have seen your posts on other threads and the fact that you supported Hillary and care so little for the policies she espouses. Ones that mean so much to so many, women, middle class, poor, homeless, children...That you will simply throw that away because she lost is simply sad

And since she's out of the running, someone should automatically stick with Obama?

Thank goodness some don't!

 

[DawnCt1]

I have two words for all my conservative friends itching for a great Obama scandal


KEATING FIVE!!!!!!!!!


look it up if you want to be completely educated

I think it is YOU that needs to be completely educated. Even the DEMOCRATIC prosecutor, Robert Bennett, said there was no reason to charge McCain with anything. He was completely innocent but they could not have hearings without a Republican. Otherwise it would have been a "democrat problem".

 

[DawnCt1]

I will agree with this if you agree that any of Obama's "guilt by association" is bogus as well.

There is no "guilt by association". It is guilt by participation. Big difference!

 

[rie'smom]

I will just address this very tiny perhaps insignificant part of the OP. Wow, can you believe Ayers said that quote on September 11, 2001!! Oh wait, the Times interview with Ayers about his memoir, which included the above quote, was published in the paper THE MORNING OF September 11, 2001, so gee, I'm pretty sure he said it before the twin towers were struck that day. Believe me, on September 11, the staff of the New York Times was not running around conducting interviews with radical ex-hippies from Chicago.
The way the above quote is written really makes it sound like Ayers said that statement on September 11, 2001, doesn't it? Do you think that is accurate?

So it's ok that he said they didn't set enough bombs because he didn't actually say it on 9/11?

 

[marybet]

I say all politicians are scum, but you have to choose the scum you back. I'd rather have typical scum than someone who is a Socialist and actively worked to indoctrinate children to the socialist manifesto.

Interesting, I think that this is the reason so many people are energized by Palin. She seems to be a relatively clean politician. Even the "scandel" that seems to be going on was her getting pissed because a guy threatened to kill her father and tasered her nephew...I'm ok with her getting pissed and wanting that guy fired.

Where do you come up with this stuff

a Socialist and actively worked to indoctrinate children to the socialist manifesto.

?

If you think Palin is a clean politician than you just aren't paying attention. It does seem that the Republicans on this board are willing to believe the worst about Obama and just ignore the worst about McCain.

I don't believe all politicians are scum, most will spin the story to make themselves look good. The stuff in the OP about Obama is way more than spin. There is no point in Obama supporters pointing out all the lies because you (general you) all just post more lies or say you don't believe the links. Because we all know that conservative websites and newspapers only tell the truth and liberal websites and newspapers only tell lies.

 

[Charade]

Challenge to BO supporters - show that this info is false... OP showed sources for his facts.

Eh, good luck with that!

Don't know how long this thread is but as I can see by the post by LuvDuke, the whitewashing has already begun and will continue.

ETA: It's early, I didn't get the joke!!

 

[DawnCt1]

I will just address this very tiny perhaps insignificant part of the OP. Wow, can you believe Ayers said that quote on September 11, 2001!! Oh wait, the Times interview with Ayers about his memoir, which included the above quote, was published in the paper THE MORNING OF September 11, 2001, so gee, I'm pretty sure he said it before the twin towers were struck that day. Believe me, on September 11, the staff of the New York Times was not running around conducting interviews with radical ex-hippies from Chicago.
The way the above quote is written really makes it sound like Ayers said that statement on September 11, 2001, doesn't it? Do you think that is accurate?

I get it! Ayers was just a misquided hippie that liked to blow up things, destroy public property and make a mess. Luckily no one was killed. Timothy McVeigh had already blown up a building killing lots of people in Oklahoma City when Ayers made those comments. We had already a bombing at the WTC with deaths, when Ayers made those comments, The Cole was attacked by bombers with resultant deaths when Ayers made those comments....BUT because Ayers' target was the United States government his youthful dalience in protest and activism was acceptable. I don't think so.

 

[Charade]

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html

Yanno, I'm getting a little leery of factcheck. It doesn't give me warm fuzzies when the title of the article says "McCain once again tries to tar Obama with the controversies of others.

That's not impartial enough for me.