Obama Supporters, A question?

[DawnCt1]

I think that if Hillary wins the nomination through the use of Super delegates, those that supported the Obama campaign, particularly among the youth, for whom this may be their first election in which they can vote, will be so disillusioned by the political process, that they will sit out the election.

 

[LuvDuke]

I think that if Hillary wins the nomination through the use of Super delegates, those that supported the Obama campaign, particularly among the youth, for whom this may be their first election in which they can vote, will be so disillusioned by the political process, that they will sit out the election.

The super delegates are part of the state delegations and not some off-in-the corner group of spoilers. The decisions will be made as a state decision.

Frankly, more people have been disillusioned by the last 7 years than anything that's going to come out of the Democratic nomination. How many former Republicans now say they will not vote Republican? How many Republicans feel betrayed by their own party?

But then again, it may all turn on "File-gate".

You can't make this stuff up.

 

[DawnCt1]

The super delegates are part of the state delegations and not some off-in-the corner group of spoilers. The decisions will be made as a state decision.

Frankly, more people have been disillusioned by the last 7 years than anything that's going to come out of the Democratic nomination. How many former Republicans now say they will not vote Republican? How many Republicans feel betrayed by their own party?

But then again, it may all turn on "File-gate".

You can't make this stuff up.

For you to deny that they are a "wild card", is not looking at the situation. Ted Kennedy is a super delegate. Massachusetts voted for Hillary. He endorsed Obama. He could easily vote for Obama as a super delegate. As an aside, " the bolded phrase is getting extremely OLD.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

I think that if Hillary wins the nomination through the use of Super delegates, those that supported the Obama campaign, particularly among the youth, for whom this may be their first election in which they can vote, will be so disillusioned by the political process, that they will sit out the election.

Because the Democrats desperately need the youth vote to counter the overwhelming youth vote that McCain is counting on?!?!

I'd say instead of concerning themselves with the left's youth movement, Republicans need to start working on getting their base to the polls come November. Scary thing is, when McCain finally decides to move to the right to pick up the right's hard core voting block, he risks losing all of his Independent street cred. I'm thinking McCain's chances of pulling off a victory in the general election are none, and less than none...

 

[DawnCt1]

Because the Democrats desperately need the youth vote to counter the overwhelming youth vote that McCain is counting on?!?!

I'd say instead of concerning themselves with the left's youth movement, Republicans need to start working on getting their base to the polls come November. Scary thing is, when McCain finally decides to move to the right to pick up the right's hard core voting block, he risks losing all of his Independent street cred. I'm thinking McCain's chances of pulling off a victory in the general election are none, and less than none...

I think that McCain needs Hillary to have a decent shot at the White House. He could possibly do it with Obama. McCain also needs to be judicious in who he choses for his running mate. He needs a conservative who can attract the youth vote. I like Michael Steele, Bobby Jindal, gov. of Louisiana, IF he had more experience, Condi Rice, if she would run, etc. I think that there are a lot of attractive choices, including Romney. He does NOT need Huckabee.

 

[LuvDuke]

For you to deny that they are a "wild card", is not looking at the situation. Ted Kennedy is a super delegate. Massachusetts voted for Hillary. He endorsed Obama. He could easily vote for Obama as a super delegate. As an aside, " the bolded phrase is getting extremely OLD.

It's doubly "old" when it scores a direct hit.

 

[BubMunkeyBles]

I'd vote for McCain over Clinton most likely, but refuse to make a concrete decision when the election is so far out and they haven't really started campaigning against each other yet. I really just don't like her and am scared of 20 years of Bush and Clinton, I want someone new. As a military spouse I like that McCain at least has sons deployed to the middle east and know what we go through and he's definitely the better of all the Repubs who could win, even if I disagree with his social politics.

 

[pat fan]

including Romney

Good gravy dawn, do you live in Ma? I think not!
OT...I always wondered, does the CT in DawnCt stand for Connecticut? This is NOT an attack on you AT ALL, it's just thinking of Romney gives me shivers, and not in a good way But, to each his own....

A separate aside, not to DawnCT1
BTW, I am not going to answer some the not-so-veiled comments at my post. I'm allowed my opinion just as you are allowed yours. And where did I ever use the word "meanie"? Good grief

 

[Robinrs]

I've 50/50 Hillary and Obama. I'd be happy with either one.

 

[salmoneous]

that they will sit out the election.

You forget that Obama supporters are pretty smart folks. Given the choice between

1) President Hillary, who will offer Obama any role he wants and agrees with him on core issues, or

2) President McCain, who disagrees with Obama on most core issues and will give us 4 more years of George Bush's policies,

Obama's supports are going to want to see President Clinton and will vote to see it happen.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Good gravy dawn, do you live in Ma? I think not!
OT...I always wondered, does the CT in DawnCt stand for Connecticut? This is NOT an attack on you AT ALL, it's just thinking of Romney gives me shivers, and not in a good way But, to each his own....

A separate aside, not to DawnCT1
BTW, I am not going to answer some the not-so-veiled comments at my post. I'm allowed my opinion just as you are allowed yours. And where did I ever use the word "meanie"? Good grief

I had no one specific in mind when I posted my opinion, just an over all collective attitude by some so-called Dems who would vote for McCain, and his Supreme Court nominees, over Clinton because they don't like her disposition. Everyone here knows, if I were talking specifically about you, I would have happily quoted your post. I don't do "veiled" comments...

 

[DawnCt1]

It's doubly "old" when it scores a direct hit.

Actually, no. Its old because it signifies that you can't engage in a discussion without an "attitude". I edited my response to avoid points.

 

[Planogirl]

You forget that Obama supporters are pretty smart folks. Given the choice between

1) President Hillary, who will offer Obama any role he wants and agrees with him on core issues, or

2) President McCain, who disagrees with Obama on most core issues and will give us 4 more years of George Bush's policies,

Obama's supports are going to want to see President Clinton and will vote to see it happen.

I hope that you're right. I've seen way too many comments about voting for McCain if Hillary wins the nomination to not feel uneasy though. I've also recently seen some scattered talk of voting for McCain if Obama wins but not as much. I wonder if many of those latter people aren't responding in anger?

That aside, I read some of the past comments about Obama's leadership ability with great interest. I must say that some of you make him sound like a salesmen.

 

[Fitswimmer]

The super delegates are part of the state delegations and not some off-in-the corner group of spoilers. The decisions will be made as a state decision.

Frankly, more people have been disillusioned by the last 7 years than anything that's going to come out of the Democratic nomination. How many former Republicans now say they will not vote Republican? How many Republicans feel betrayed by their own party?

But then again, it may all turn on "File-gate".

You can't make this stuff up.

That would be me..and my Dad. After nearly 50 years as a Republican he voted for Hillary Clinton in the Florida Primary.

 

[Cindyluwho]

I'm for Obama. If Hillary gets the nomination, I will be voting for Senator McCain. Although I do not agree with everything he stands for, I admire and respect him. I can NOT say the same for Hillary. I truly believe that those who dislike her, Hate her. And if she wins the nomination the repubs will come out in record numbers to beat her at any cost as well as some demos and independants like myself.

 

[budbeerlady]

I have in the past years I have voted Republican, I was going to vote for Obama this past month but living in MI he wasnt on my ballet.

IF it comes down to Mc vs Hillary I will vote for McCain again. In my mind he is less polarizing than Hillary, If she is the president I see nothing less than 4 years of arguing, complaining and getting nothing accomplished. Then she would send Bill out to complain about it all and how unfair it is. McCain is the lesser of 2 evils for me.

 

[babieemelly]

I'm for Obama. If Hillary gets the nomination, I will be voting for Senator McCain. Although I do not agree with everything he stands for, I admire and respect him. I can NOT say the same for Hillary. I truly believe that those who dislike her, Hate her. And if she wins the nomination the repubs will come out in record numbers to beat her at any cost as well as some demos and independants like myself.

I'll never understand that. If you're a registered Democrat, and you agree with the beliefs of the party, why would you go against your own beliefs and turn your back on the party you support in order to support someone who is just going to continue the Bush regime? Most, if not all, Democrats are against the war yet if Hillary is the nominee they'll run to vote for a man who said that he'd stay in Iraq for 100 years?! I don't understand that handful of people who hate Hillary with a passion, especially when her views are almost exactly the same as Obama's. Why would anyone completely turn their back on their own beliefs on policy simply because they don't like or understand a candidates personality? And what if Obama is Hillary's vice-president? I'm supporting Clinton but I also like Obama and wouldn't have a problem voting for either of them because I support the beliefs and policies of the Democratic party and find sticking to those beliefs important. I guess I'll just never understand doing otherwise.

 

[DawnCt1]

I'm for Obama. If Hillary gets the nomination, I will be voting for Senator McCain. Although I do not agree with everything he stands for, I admire and respect him. I can NOT say the same for Hillary. I truly believe that those who dislike her, Hate her. And if she wins the nomination the repubs will come out in record numbers to beat her at any cost as well as some demos and independants like myself.

I think that may be true and I think that there will be a segment of Obama supporters who will feel disenfranchised, should the super delegate scenario give Hillary the nomination, and sit out the election.

 

[eclectics]

I'm for Obama. If Hillary gets the nomination, I will be voting for Senator McCain. Although I do not agree with everything he stands for, I admire and respect him. I can NOT say the same for Hillary. I truly believe that those who dislike her, Hate her. And if she wins the nomination the repubs will come out in record numbers to beat her at any cost as well as some demos and independants like myself.

I respect your decision to vote for your convictions. However, I hope all the Democrats and Independents realize that by electing McCain you are in all likelihood giving a green light to a Supreme Court that will overturn Roe V Wade, rubber stamp an amendment to the constitution to outlaw gay unions, and permit prayer in school...... just for starters. If you are cool with all of that, then there is no problem. I just want to remind everyone that there is more than just the Presidency at stake this November. It's estimated that 4 Supreme Court Justices will retire in the next eight years. McCain has made it clear he will appoint only Conservatives such as Thomas and Scalia to replace them.

 

[LuvDuke]

Actually, no. Its old because it signifies that you can't engage in a discussion without an "attitude". I edited my response to avoid points.

You bet I've got an attitude.

I'm enjoying watching the Republican right implode before our very eyes.

I'm enjoying watching the rightwing radio gas bags do their "rumpelstiltskin" act as they spin so hard, they fall down.

I'm enjoying watching Republicans eat their elbows because their choices are so bad when it comes to nominees. FYI, the choices reflect the Republican party of today.

I'm enjoying watching the Republican nominees all claim to be the new "Saint Ronnie" and the Republican party would raise him from the dead if they could. Hell, they'd run "Saint Ronnie" as a photo on a mantel piece if it didn't remind them how low they've sunk.

You bet I've got an attitude. And it's in answer to the rightwing bloviations that were thrown at those on my side of the aisle, who btw, turned out to be right about everything. After being called "terrorist sympathizers", "in league with Al-Qaeda", "supporters of Saddam Hussein", "unAmerican because we dared to question", etc. you expected precisely what? Candy and flowers, maybe? You reap what you sow.

And if it bothers you, put me on ignore.