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Ehhh. That endorsement rumor flew around DU last week when Edwards went on Leno too. I was at the convention this morning, although just listening from outside, and didn't hear a peep about it.

Be careful linking DU though. You never know when the profanities will start dropping and then you'll get dinged here for linking to it.
 

]Breaking News... (edited; not sure if this really is reliable or not, but interesting nonetheless)

Get ready...

http://www.democraticunderground.co...sg&forum=132&topic_id=5318594&mesg_id=5318594

After the results from WI, it was rumored that he was endorsing Obama. If the rumors are true, it's an important endorsement for her - I certainly won't take the road of some Clinton supporters and say it's not important simply because he is endorsing her, or calling him a traitor. ;)
 
Check out the breaking news from Gallup:

Gallup has Obama up -- again

Just in from Gallup:

"PRINCETON, NJ -- Barack Obama has extended his lead over Hillary Clinton among Democrats nationally to 52% to 42%, the third consecutive Gallup Poll Daily tracking report in which he has held a statistically significant lead, and Obama's largest lead of the year so far."
 
Holy cow!!! :woohoo: That's an ENORMOUS crowd!!

I just looked at the Rasmussen daily number, looks good to me :thumbsup2

No idea when the last PA numbers were polled however?

Did you check the Rasmussen Favorable/Unfavorable numbers.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_...favorable_ratings_for_presidential_candidates

Hillary negatives are up to 56%. And she still thinks the SD's are going to ignore that and turn to her.

Honestly, I'm starting to wonder if she's as delusional as George Bush. Neither can see reality,both live in a fantasy world, and neither one can admit they made a mistake.
 
Did you check the Rasmussen Favorable/Unfavorable numbers.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_...favorable_ratings_for_presidential_candidates

Hillary negatives are up to 56%. And she still thinks the SD's are going to ignore that and turn to her.

Honestly, I'm starting to wonder if she's as delusional as George Bush. Neither can see reality,both live in a fantasy world, and neither one can admit they made a mistake.

She starts off with 47-49% of voters who don't want to vote for her. That's pretty staggering.
 
Oh yeah and thanks for the heads up about KO, Chris. I'm guessing he must be doing well on MSNBC for them to show him nationally tonight.
 
Interesting about the Edwards rumor. I guess we'll see... :)

3-4 weeks ago, one of the pundits on the Chris Mathews Show, can't remember which one, said that Edwards would endorse Hillary as well. I posted it on the Hillary supporters thread when it broke and it went over with a thud. I guess they were so concerned about getting Hillary's big win in Michigan counted, they couldn't have cared less...what are you gonna do?
 
I was just reading an article where Shiela Jackson Lee was boo'd at her convention yesterday since her constituents went heavily for Obama and she is a Clinton backer.
 
3-4 weeks ago, one of the pundits on the Chris Mathews Show, can't remember which one, said that Edwards would endorse Hillary as well. I posted it on the Hillary supporters thread when it broke and it went over with a thud. I guess they were so concerned about getting Hillary's big win in Michigan counted, they couldn't have cared less...what are you gonna do?

Sneaking in - to at least state one Hillary supporters' opinion - I didn't believe it was going to happen - and it didn't.

And yeah - for the record - I still believe both states should have had a re-vote. Doesn't seem right to give McCain the head start in both of those states - there's an awfully annoyed electorate there in both. Heck, we were so close to possibly winning FL this time.

Right now - politically - anyone new who endorses Hillary and goes against a lot of the party leaders - is a very brave person indeed. Look at what just happened to Sheila Jackson Lee......
 
3-4 weeks ago, one of the pundits on the Chris Mathews Show, can't remember which one, said that Edwards would endorse Hillary as well. I posted it on the Hillary supporters thread when it broke and it went over with a thud. I guess they were so concerned about getting Hillary's big win in Michigan counted, they couldn't have cared less...what are you gonna do?
Another one sneaking to say that his endorsement would mean a lot to me but I'm not going to get excited until it actually happens. Now I'll back quietly out again - carry on.
 
3-4 weeks ago, one of the pundits on the Chris Mathews Show, can't remember which one, said that Edwards would endorse Hillary as well. I posted it on the Hillary supporters thread when it broke and it went over with a thud. I guess they were so concerned about getting Hillary's big win in Michigan counted, they couldn't have cared less...what are you gonna do?

Did not see that when you posted it...not sure why. I am still not convinced of who Edwards will pull for. When listening to his speech the other day he seemed More for Obama but that could be the way I heard it.

Would be great if he did. His platform was more on the same line as Hillary due to the blue collar workers but who knows in this election:confused3

Would like to see him as her VP if not Obama. Edwards has such passion when he speaks about his issues , more so than any of the candidates IMO.

I have a Hillary Button and a Obama button that I got in DC so when the time comes I will be ready either way. Will be interesting to see what happens with Edwards. I would figure he would sit it out till after PA. and take it from there.
 
Article about the party slowly getting behind Obama:

I bolded the part about an endorsement from Klobuchar and the 7 Dem. House Members from NC. :woohoo:

New Backing for Obama
As Party Seeks Unity
By JACKIE CALMES
March 31, 2008; Page A1
WASHINGTON -- Slowly but steadily, a string of Democratic Party figures is taking Barack Obama's side in the presidential nominating race and raising the pressure on Hillary Clinton to give up.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota is expected to endorse Sen. Obama Monday, according to a Democrat familiar with her plans. Meanwhile, North Carolina's seven Democratic House members are poised to endorse Sen. Obama as a group -- just one has so far -- before that state's May 6 primary, several Democrats say.

Helping to drive the endorsements is a fear that the Obama-Clinton contest has grown toxic and threatens the Democratic Party's chances against Republican John McCain in the fall.


Sen. Clinton rejects that view. Over the weekend, she reiterated her intent to stay in the race beyond the last contest in early June -- and all the way to the party's convention in Denver, if necessary.

"There are some folks saying we ought to stop these elections," she said Saturday in Indiana, which also has a May 6 primary. "I didn't think we believed that in America. I thought we of all people knew how important it was to give everyone a chance to have their voices heard and their votes counted."

Sen. Obama told reporters, "My attitude is that Sen. Clinton can run as long as she wants."

In earlier eras, the standoff between the two candidates might have been resolved by party elders acting behind the scenes. But no Democrat today has the power to knock heads and resolve the mess. Party Chairman Howard Dean says he was "dumbfounded" at the suggestion by Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy Friday that Sen. Clinton should pull out.

"Having run for president myself, nobody tells you when to get in, and nobody tells you when to get out," Mr. Dean said. "That's about the most personal decision you can make after all the time and effort you put into it."

New York Sen. Clinton still hopes that by turning in strong performances in the final primaries, she can blunt the momentum of her rival from Illinois and make the case that she is best-positioned to take on Sen. McCain. With Mr. Dean, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, former Vice President Al Gore and other party leaders remaining neutral, the question is whether the trend of party figures endorsing Sen. Obama will build enough momentum to tip the race.

The expected move by Minnesota's Sen. Klobuchar follows Friday's endorsement of Sen. Obama by Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, which holds its primary April 22.

Both senators had planned to remain neutral, according to party officials, but decided to weigh in as the Democrats' campaign became more negative and Sen. McCain was free to exploit the confusion looking to the November election.

One North Carolinian confirmed that at least several of the state's House members would go public in favor of Sen. Obama before long. Meanwhile, elected officials in other states with upcoming contests, including Indiana, Montana and Oregon, are weighing whether to endorse Sen. Obama.

What makes such endorsements significant is that they're from superdelegates. These delegates -- members of Congress, governors and other party officials -- can vote for whomever they want at the Democratic convention in August. Sen. Obama has a slight lead over Sen. Clinton in the pledged-delegate count -- the delegates won during primaries and caucuses -- but neither can amass enough pledged delegates for a majority. That makes the vote of the superdelegates decisive.

Since the "Super Tuesday" primaries on Feb. 5, Sen. Obama has won commitments from 64 superdelegates and Sen. Clinton has gotten nine. Sen. Obama has a total of 217 superdelegates in his camp while Sen. Clinton has 250, and her margin has been shrinking with each week. Sen. Clinton would have several more in her tally, but they're from Michigan, and delegates from Michigan and Florida won't be seated -- at least for now -- because both states defied party rules and held their primaries earlier than permitted.

"I think that says a lot about just where people are and what they're thinking," says former Senate Majority Leader Thomas Daschle, an Obama supporter. "And I think the numbers are just going to keep getting better" for Sen. Obama. Counting Sen. Klobuchar, Sen. Obama leads 13-11 among their Democratic colleagues in the Senate.

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Even raising the prospect of a convention fight could backfire for Sen. Clinton by antagonizing the superdelegates she needs. Many superdelegates are on the ballot themselves this year, and the last thing they want is a chaotic convention that plays into the hands of Republicans.

In interviews, some House Democrats said Sen. Obama has the edge in the chamber. They noted that he has proved himself the stronger fund-raiser and has attracted more new voters to the party than anyone in recent memory -- both advantages that could benefit other Democrats. They worry that Sen. Clinton's high negative ratings in polls would incite more Republicans to mobilize against her and the Democratic ticket.

Sen. Chris Dodd of Connecticut, a former presidential candidate and a past party chairman, told National Journal Friday that Sen. Obama's nomination is "a foregone conclusion" and "enough is enough." Sen. Dodd has endorsed Sen. Obama.

Mr. Dean, the party chairman, is urging uncommitted superdelegates to take sides no later than July 1, and effectively name the nominee. "If we go into the convention divided, it's pretty likely we'll come out of the convention divided," he said.

Democrats across the board, he said, "are haranguing me to show leadership." But they're often partisans for one candidate or the other, he added. Meanwhile, he said he is conferring with other party leaders, including Mrs. Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada; former Vice President Al Gore; civil-rights veteran and Clinton confidante Vernon Jordan; former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo; and Jesse Jackson and his son, Chicago Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.

"Most of their advice is, 'Let this play out, let's get through the primaries,' " Mr. Dean said. "And I think that's right....Voters have to have their say. It's painful, because that means we've got another two months of this."
 
Winning a state like VA doesn't matter but beating "Uncommitted" matters. Fascinating.

Correction: BARELY beating "Uncommitted". :teeth:

Sneaking in - to at least state one Hillary supporters' opinion - I didn't believe it was going to happen - and it didn't.

And yeah - for the record - I still believe both states should have had a re-vote. Doesn't seem right to give McCain the head start in both of those states - there's an awfully annoyed electorate there in both. Heck, we were so close to possibly winning FL this time.

Right now - politically - anyone new who endorses Hillary and goes against a lot of the party leaders - is a very brave person indeed. Look at what just happened to Sheila Jackson Lee......

I think Florida's a lost cause in the general. The age of the population combined with the whole early-vote fiasco makes me think that they will tend to side with McCain. So you can thank the idiot Democrats in that state for making sure that happens. I don't think it will matter in Michigan because the economy is so bad up there and McCain has no plan to actually help address that...which is why I'm also not worried about Ohio or Pennsylvania.

Saw something on Keith Olbermann last night that interested me. He said that with an even showing in PA (meaning not losing by more than 5 points or so) and a win in North Carolina, Obama could tell Hillary to stop her whining and COUNT Florida and Michigan...'cause she'd STILL be behind by every conceivable measure! Kinda puts the lie to the whole "it's still too close to call" business, don't you think?
 
Turns out, that 3:00 AM phone call for Hillary is actually a collection agency. :lmao:

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The list of Clinton campaign debts:

http://query.nictusa.com/pres/2008/M2/C00431569/D_DEBTS_C00431569.html

I'd post it here, but it's too long to fit on one page. :teeth:
 
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