Number of FP+ to increase and Park Hopping to be added

[loveysbydesign]

Any updates on this? Planning a last minute trip, off-site, Memorial day week and have not been there to use FP+ yet!

 

[Yellowstonetim]

The only thing the negatives told us is that everything was ruined, we are cancelling our trips, or no one should go to disney any more. The people who were positive about the situation are the ones who were confident that it would be remedied as roll out occurred.

Your "told you so" would have to involve FPP remaining as it was in testing.
If you had said, after roll out was complete, that if we complain enough they will make it better, then you would have some credit.

The people who were optomistic that it would become better are the ones who "told you so"

 

[PJGP]

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...ampaign=Feed:+DisneyParks+(Disney+Parks+Blog)

It is ON!!!! Additional FP+ and Park Hopping

 

[wreck99]

This is awesome!

 

[oddman]

The only thing the negatives told us is that everything was ruined, we are cancelling our trips, or no one should go to disney any more. The people who were positive about the situation are the ones who were confident that it would be remedied as roll out occurred.

Your "told you so" would have to involve FPP remaining as it was in testing.
If you had said, after roll out was complete, that if we complain enough they will make it better, then you would have some credit.

The people who were optomistic that it would become better are the ones who "told you so"

Complete rubbish my son.

Had 100% of customers (and yeah that's what we are) smiled and said "thank you that is perfect" Disney would NOT have added offsite guests to reservations and would have kept it as a perk.. Disney reacted to customer dissatisfaction just like every other corp.

Don't delude yourself into believing Dis is some how your buddy or has the "Best" interests of it's fans in mind...

Consider this..

Over the last 10 years Dis has increased price 100% in real inflation adusted dollars. It currently costs twice as much to enter for the day than the average price over the last 20 to 30 years...
Remember those are inflation adjusted dollars, and today you are paying 100% more than almost any point in the history of Dis...

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Complete rubbish my son.

Had 100% of customers (and yeah that's what we are) smiled and said "thank you that is perfect" Disney would NOT have added offsite guests to reservations and would have kept it as a perk.. Disney reacted to customer dissatisfaction just like every other corp.

Don't delude yourself into believing Dis is some how your buddy or has the "Best" interests of it's fans in mind...

Consider this..

Over the last 10 years Dis has increased price 100% in real inflation adusted dollars. It currently costs twice as much to enter for the day than the average price over the last 20 to 30 years...
Remember those are inflation adjusted dollars, and today you are paying 100% more than almost any point in the history of Dis...

First...I agree with you

Second, you don't have to preach to beer Dave...the eyes are open.

I think it's more of just "throwing it out there"

A one day ticket was $49 in 2000...it was $52 in 2003

There has been an all out war on prices over the last 10 years...and a major thrust from CMB since 2009...

Queue the "free market" excuse...

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

Complete rubbish my son.

Had 100% of customers (and yeah that's what we are) smiled and said "thank you that is perfect" Disney would NOT have added offsite guests to reservations and would have kept it as a perk.. Disney reacted to customer dissatisfaction just like every other corp.

Don't delude yourself into believing Dis is some how your buddy or has the "Best" interests of it's fans in mind...

Consider this..

Over the last 10 years Dis has increased price 100% in real inflation adusted dollars. It currently costs twice as much to enter for the day than the average price over the last 20 to 30 years...
Remember those are inflation adjusted dollars, and today you are paying 100% more than almost any point in the history of Dis...

~Disney has never been perfect -- not ever. The old fp wasn't perfect either -- most fp users found it to be too restrictive and too much of a pedestrian effort just to experience a ride -- and *this* is what prompted the majority of fp users to run up and down all morning from machine to machine, collecting fp's until they all ran out around 10AM -- and then hoard the fp's to use later at night. If the fp system was so perfect --there would not have been such a need and desire to use them outside of the return window.

~I just came across two, almost identical trip reports from posters that have already mastered the new FP+ system -- it is truly astonishing. Both of them were kind enough to share their findings in detail here.

--->~I'm officially a convert to FP+~<---

Here's what we did:

9.10am Peter Pan
9.25ish Winnie the Pooh
9.50am checked in for Crystal Palace
11.20ish left Crystal Palace (which was awesome btw, and they brought my sister a card signed by all the characters and a cupcake with a candle for her birthday) and wandered towards Haunted Mansion
11.30ish got distracted by Little Mermaid and rode it (said 20 min wait, was actually a walk on)
12ish Haunted Mansion (FP)
12.30ish monsters inc laugh floor
1pmish Space Mountain (FP)
Immediately went to get another FP - no queue at kiosk and got BTMRR with 3.25pm return
1.45pm checked in for BOG FP (highly recommend! absolutely beautiful surroundings and the food was great for counter service)
3.25 rode BTMRR (FP)
3.40ish caught train back to Main Street then my sister went back to the hotel - freedom to commando ride Space and BTMRR for rest of afternoon if I want!
3.50ish collected FP for Space with 4.40pm return
4.10ish rode Space (SB, 20 min wait)
4.35pm rode space again (FP)
4.50ish Went to get another FP for space, 5.20pm return
5.15pm rode Space (FP)

Needed a sit down! Went to get another FP - got Pirates with return time 5 mins in future (which as they let you in five minutes before return time is essentially just skipping the queue). Walked to pirates, which was down. Changed pirates FP on phone to jungle cruise.

6.15pm rode jungle cruise (FP)
6.45pm went to collect another FP, got Pirates with immediate return time.
6.50pm rode pirates (FP)
7.15pm went to collect another FP, got big Thunder for 7.25.
7.30pm rode BTMRR (FP)
7.50ish Went to get another FP - got HM again for 8.20pm
8ish sat down to eat a citrus swirl
8.15pm rode HM (FP)
8.35ish went to get another BTMRR FP - got return time of 8.50pm
8.50pm rode BTMRR (FP)

--->~Magical Day in MK Using 10 Fastpasses~<---

Pre-booked Fastpasses

Space Mountain: 10:35-11:35
Peter Pan: 11:55-12:55
Anna and Elsa: 1:25-2:25

How the Day Played Out:

8:10: Arrive and enter the park, wait about six rows back from the front of the line

8:45: Opening show

8:50: First Rope Drop: Proceed to rope drop at Frontierland

9:00 Frontierland Rope Drop: Proceed to Big Mountain Thunder Railroad

9:00-9:15: Ride BTMR twice (allowed to reride without getting off)

9:15-9:40: Ride Splash Mountain – Walk On

9:45: Ride Haunted Mansion – Walk On

10:03: Ride IASW – 2 minute wait

10:15-10:45: Walk to Space Mountain, ride standby (10 minute posted wait, actual wait 5 minutes), ride again using FP

10:55: Meet Stitch in Fantasyland, 10 minute wait

11:10: Eat lunch at Cosmic Ray’s

11:45-12:20 Monster’s Laugh Factory & Peter Pan with FP

12:25-1:20: Mickey’s Philiharmagic, Meet Donald and Goofy, Play in Water at Casey Jr., Get Drinks and Shacks

1:20: Anna & Elsa & Sleeping Beauty with FP

Now begins the use of the extra FPs, Kiosk Wait 5-8 minutes

1:49: FP for Barnstormer for 1:50-2:50. Immediately ride. Told no FP available for Rapzunel/Cinderella M&G or Ariel’s Grotto M&G. Barnstormer Standby Wait is 35 minutes

2:05: FP for Dumbo for 2:20-3:20. Ride at 2:15. Dumbo Standy Wait is 60 minutes.

2:30: FP for Winnie the Pooh for 2:50-3:50. Ride at 3:00. Rejected FP for Under the Sea at 4:50. Winnie the Pooh Standby Wait is 45 minutes.

2:30-2:55: Meet Minnie Mouse and Daisy

3:12: FP for Pirates of the Carribean for 3:20-4:20. Ride at 3:30. POTC Standby Wait is 35 minutes.

3:50: FP for Jungle Cruise for 4:25-5:25. Ride at 4:40. Standby Wait is 35 minutes.

3:50-4:40: Get Ice Cream, Meet Tinkerbell & Fawn

5:00: FP for Buzz Lightyear for 5:15-6:15. Ride at 5:10. Inquired about FP for Mickey’s Townhall, but earliest available was 8:10, which I rejected. Standby Wait for Buzz is 30 minutes.

5:25: FP for Rapzunel and Cinderella for 9:20-10:20. Not available when I asked at 1:49.

5:30: Ride PeopleMover, Walk On

5:40: Astro Orbiter Standby, 15 minute wait

6:10: Mickey Town Hall Standby, 40 minute wait

7:00: Ride Train to Frontierland

7:20: BTMR Standby, posted wait 20 minutes, actual wait 10 minutes

7:40-8:05: Kill time before dinner reservations, Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse

8:05-9:15: Dinner at Crystal Palace, Meet Pooh, Tigger, Piglet, & Eeyore

9:20: Rapzunel & Cinderella FP. Standby Wait is 45 minutes.

9:40: Under the Sea – Walk On

9:55: Ariel’s Grotto – Meet Ariel, nobody in line before us

10:00: Based on a CM’s recommendation, watch Fireworks from Gaston’s Tavern. This is a GREAT place to watch the fireworks. Plus, you can grab a stool from outside the tavern and sit in a seat while watching the fireworks.

10:20: Barnstormer -- Walk On

10:30-11:00: Ride Space Mountain Standby Twice

11:00: Electrical Parade

~This pretty much shuts down any argument against FP+. Have a magical day!!!

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

You are making some huge assumptions. I am not sure this change wasn't planned from the beginning. I am not sure there was a huge "backlash." People who gave input to Disney are in no one's view "bad guys." Anti FP+ and Pro FP+ alike all support the idea of giving input to Disney whenever possible. In fact it was often encouraged by both "sides."

You are right that posting here "whining and complaining" doesn't do a thing. Disney does listen to input. But I still think this was part of the plan.

~Very well said, Tom Wazeem! Huge backlash?!? That's hilarious -- the parks have never been more full -- they're literally bursting at the seam!!!

The only thing the negatives told us is that everything was ruined, we are cancelling our trips, or no one should go to disney any more. The people who were positive about the situation are the ones who were confident that it would be remedied as roll out occurred.

Your "told you so" would have to involve FPP remaining as it was in testing.
If you had said, after roll out was complete, that if we complain enough they will make it better, then you would have some credit.

The people who were optomistic that it would become better are the ones who "told you so"

~Oh, beer dave -- you are so insightful & I couldn't agree more!

~And, once again -- Disney profits and theme park attendance continue to soar!!! --->~Disney profits soar at parks~<---

 

[Yellowstonetim]

~Disney has never been perfect -- not ever. The old fp wasn't perfect either -- most fp users found it to be too restrictive and too much of a pedestrian effort just to experience a ride -- and *this* is what prompted the majority of fp users to run up and down all morning from machine to machine, collecting fp's until they all ran out around 10AM -- and then hoard the fp's to use later at night. If the fp system was so perfect --there would not have been such a need and desire to use them outside of the return window.

~I just came across two, almost identical trip reports from posters that have already mastered the new FP+ system -- it is truly astonishing. Both of them were kind enough to share their findings in detail here.

--->~I'm officially a convert to FP+~<---



--->~Magical Day in MK Using 10 Fastpasses~<---



~This pretty much shuts down any argument against FP+. Have a magical day!!!

Haha! Well said! It is a slam dunk. Different than FP, but great in its own way! Have a magical day, too!

 

[Yellowstonetim]

FP+ cannot be termed anything other than a success. Even among the tough crowd her at DIS, there are a huge number of happy converts.

Check this very interesting article from a travel industry magazine website, Travel Weekly. Emphasis below is mine. 3/4 of resort guests and 1/4 of day guests are using MM+ and "pre-engaging" as they call it. That is; getting into Disney's system before they arrive to make plans and reservations. Those are pretty good numbers for something so new and unfamiliar:

http://www.travelweekly.com/North-A...e-encouraging-as-Q2-net-income-up-27-percent/

Go to the article page and click on the advert for IBEROSTAR Playa Mita on the right. If nothing else it is a really cool pic and it is how the writer of this article and the website make a living. It takes 5 or 6 seconds. We enjoy lots of articles posted here on DIS, we should "pay" for their use.

Oh, I did work in a Frozen reference to this thread, too!

Disney says MyMagic+ use 'encouraging' as Q2 net income up 27%
By Michelle Baran

Walt Disney World is already seeing changes in guest behavior as it continues to roll out the MyMagic+ program, which was made available to all park guests last month, Disney executives said during the company's second-quarter earnings call on Tuesday.

"Guest adoption of our MyMagic+ previsit planning tools is encouraging," Disney CFO Jay Rasulo said during Tuesday's call. "Roughly three-quarters of our resort guests are using them to plan their visit. Just one month after making pre-arrival planning of FastPass+ available to our day guests, more than 25% of them are pre-engaging with us."

Rasulo added that guests who preplan tend to spend more time at in the parks. Additionally, the new technology is enabling Disney World to accommodate more guests at the parks.

"When guests are better distributed around the park, we can often allow more in," Rasulo said. "I don't want to get into the specific numbers; it is in the thousands."

Disney's parks and resorts segment saw revenue increase 8%, to $3.6 billion, and segment operating income increased 19%, to $457 million, for the fiscal quarter ended March 29.

The higher operating income was driven by increased guest spending at Walt Disney World, higher attendance at the Disneyland Resort in California and growth in hotel occupancy at both resorts, all of which offset the costs of implementing the high-tech MyMagic+ system.

Disney reported record earnings for the second quarter. Revenue for the quarter increased 10%, to $11.65 billion, from $10.55 billion for the same year-ago period. Net income rose 27%, to $1.9 billion, from $1.5 billion.

Among the most impressive results of Disney's earnings performance was the more than quadrupling of segment operating income in the company's studio entertainment division to $475 million from $118 million, driven in large part by the success of "Frozen" and "Thor: The Dark World."

"The unprecedented global success of Disney Animation's phenomenal 'Frozen' continues, and it's now the world's highest-grossing animated film of all time," said Disney CEO Bob Iger.

 

[beer dave]

You guys are great. I need to say nothing.

Except don't ever call me son.

 

[SWofDisorder]

FP+ cannot be termed anything other than a success. Even among the tough crowd her at DIS, there are a huge number of happy converts.

Check this very interesting article from a travel industry magazine website, Travel Weekly. Emphasis below is mine. 3/4 of resort guests and 1/4 of day guests are using MM+ and "pre-engaging" as they call it. That is; getting into Disney's system before they arrive to make plans and reservations. Those are pretty good numbers for something so new and unfamiliar:

http://www.travelweekly.com/North-A...e-encouraging-as-Q2-net-income-up-27-percent/

Go to the article page and click on the advert for IBEROSTAR Playa Mita on the right. If nothing else it is a really cool pic and it is how the writer of this article and the website make a living. It takes 5 or 6 seconds. We enjoy lots of articles posted here on DIS, we should "pay" for their use.

Oh, I did work in a Frozen reference to this thread, too!

Disney says MyMagic+ use 'encouraging' as Q2 net income up 27%
By Michelle Baran

Walt Disney World is already seeing changes in guest behavior as it continues to roll out the MyMagic+ program, which was made available to all park guests last month, Disney executives said during the company's second-quarter earnings call on Tuesday.

"Guest adoption of our MyMagic+ previsit planning tools is encouraging," Disney CFO Jay Rasulo said during Tuesday's call. "Roughly three-quarters of our resort guests are using them to plan their visit. Just one month after making pre-arrival planning of FastPass+ available to our day guests, more than 25% of them are pre-engaging with us."

Rasulo added that guests who preplan tend to spend more time at in the parks. Additionally, the new technology is enabling Disney World to accommodate more guests at the parks.

"When guests are better distributed around the park, we can often allow more in," Rasulo said. "I don't want to get into the specific numbers; it is in the thousands."

Disney's parks and resorts segment saw revenue increase 8%, to $3.6 billion, and segment operating income increased 19%, to $457 million, for the fiscal quarter ended March 29.

The higher operating income was driven by increased guest spending at Walt Disney World, higher attendance at the Disneyland Resort in California and growth in hotel occupancy at both resorts, all of which offset the costs of implementing the high-tech MyMagic+ system.

Disney reported record earnings for the second quarter. Revenue for the quarter increased 10%, to $11.65 billion, from $10.55 billion for the same year-ago period. Net income rose 27%, to $1.9 billion, from $1.5 billion.

Among the most impressive results of Disney's earnings performance was the more than quadrupling of segment operating income in the company's studio entertainment division to $475 million from $118 million, driven in large part by the success of "Frozen" and "Thor: The Dark World."

"The unprecedented global success of Disney Animation's phenomenal 'Frozen' continues, and it's now the world's highest-grossing animated film of all time," said Disney CEO Bob Iger.

Reasons I love my USA Disney stock. It keeps making me $$. Now if the euro disney would do the same. It is such a dog and I just use it for the perk of Salon Mickey. We may not get to Disney as often but it is good to know the stock is doing well.

 

[Yellowstonetim]

You guys are great. I need to say nothing.

Except don't ever call me son.

Ok, Pop.

 

[beer dave]

Ok, Pop.

you can call me ray, or you can call me jay....... too dated?

 

[Yellowstonetim]

you can call me ray, or you can call me jay....... too dated?

Haha! Not for me.

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

FP+ cannot be termed anything other than a success. Even among the tough crowd her at DIS, there are a huge number of happy converts.

Check this very interesting article from a travel industry magazine website, Travel Weekly. Emphasis below is mine. 3/4 of resort guests and 1/4 of day guests are using MM+ and "pre-engaging" as they call it. That is; getting into Disney's system before they arrive to make plans and reservations. Those are pretty good numbers for something so new and unfamiliar:

http://www.travelweekly.com/North-A...e-encouraging-as-Q2-net-income-up-27-percent/

Go to the article page and click on the advert for IBEROSTAR Playa Mita on the right. If nothing else it is a really cool pic and it is how the writer of this article and the website make a living. It takes 5 or 6 seconds. We enjoy lots of articles posted here on DIS, we should "pay" for their use.

Oh, I did work in a Frozen reference to this thread, too!

Disney says MyMagic+ use 'encouraging' as Q2 net income up 27%
By Michelle Baran

Walt Disney World is already seeing changes in guest behavior as it continues to roll out the MyMagic+ program, which was made available to all park guests last month, Disney executives said during the company's second-quarter earnings call on Tuesday.

"Guest adoption of our MyMagic+ previsit planning tools is encouraging," Disney CFO Jay Rasulo said during Tuesday's call. "Roughly three-quarters of our resort guests are using them to plan their visit. Just one month after making pre-arrival planning of FastPass+ available to our day guests, more than 25% of them are pre-engaging with us."

Rasulo added that guests who preplan tend to spend more time at in the parks. Additionally, the new technology is enabling Disney World to accommodate more guests at the parks.

"When guests are better distributed around the park, we can often allow more in," Rasulo said. "I don't want to get into the specific numbers; it is in the thousands."

Disney's parks and resorts segment saw revenue increase 8%, to $3.6 billion, and segment operating income increased 19%, to $457 million, for the fiscal quarter ended March 29.

The higher operating income was driven by increased guest spending at Walt Disney World, higher attendance at the Disneyland Resort in California and growth in hotel occupancy at both resorts, all of which offset the costs of implementing the high-tech MyMagic+ system.

Disney reported record earnings for the second quarter. Revenue for the quarter increased 10%, to $11.65 billion, from $10.55 billion for the same year-ago period. Net income rose 27%, to $1.9 billion, from $1.5 billion.

Among the most impressive results of Disney's earnings performance was the more than quadrupling of segment operating income in the company's studio entertainment division to $475 million from $118 million, driven in large part by the success of "Frozen" and "Thor: The Dark World."

"The unprecedented global success of Disney Animation's phenomenal 'Frozen' continues, and it's now the world's highest-grossing animated film of all time," said Disney CEO Bob Iger.

~Wow, this is amazing & I totally agree with you! Thanks so much for sharing this!

You guys are great. I need to say nothing.

Except don't ever call me son.

~LOL. I'm sure it was just a mistake. The "s" key is right next to the "d" key. I'm sure the OP was aiming to hit "d" for "the don" and hit s by mistake -- spare him, just this once.

Ok, Pop.

~LOL.

you can call me ray, or you can call me jay....... too dated?

~LOL. You are just too funny, it must be too dated because this went way over my head & I have no idea what you are talking about.

Haha! Not for me.

~Ugh. I just don't get it.

 

[Yellowstonetim]

~LOL. You are just too funny, it must be too dated because this went way over my head & I have no idea what you are talking about.

~Ugh. I just don't get it.

There was a comedian that got attention in the late 70's. He did this whole routine about his name. The character was Raymond J. Johnson Jr. and he did NOT like to be called Mr. Johnson. Someone would say, "Hey Mr. Johnson", and he would go into his routine: "You can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay, or you can call me Ray Jay, or you can call me RJ, or..."

It's funny. I don't remember him ever being that big, but it was one of those cultural moments. He was in a couple of adds and everyone knew that routine who was around in the late 70's.

You kids just missed out I guess.

 

[englishrose47]

We found the new additions to FP+ worked very well !

 

[awilliams4]

Complete rubbish my son.

Had 100% of customers (and yeah that's what we are) smiled and said "thank you that is perfect" Disney would NOT have added offsite guests to reservations and would have kept it as a perk.. Disney reacted to customer dissatisfaction just like every other corp.

Bull****. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. This was going to be rolled out once all the testing/coding was done all along. This was rolled out as it was by design and practicality. The original focus was resort guests. Once enough testing and tweaks were in place, their additional coding to support non-guests was applied and introduced.

Sure. Disney had every intent all along to hire all kinds of new CMs to permanently man kiosks for the foreseeable future for all the non-resort guests. Yep, that is it.

 

[DRDISNEYMD]

There was a comedian that got attention in the late 70's. He did this whole routine about his name. The character was Raymond J. Johnson Jr. and he did NOT like to be called Mr. Johnson. Someone would say, "Hey Mr. Johnson", and he would go into his routine: "You can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay, or you can call me Ray Jay, or you can call me RJ, or..."

It's funny. I don't remember him ever being that big, but it was one of those cultural moments. He was in a couple of adds and everyone knew that routine who was around in the late 70's.

You kids just missed out I guess.

~LOL. This is just too funny. I have never heard of this sitcom. Thank you Tom Wazeem for making me feel so young!

We found the new additions to FP+ worked very well !

~Yay! That's fabulous! Thanks so much for the update!

Bull. You don't have a clue what you are talking about. This was going to be rolled out once all the testing/coding was done all along. This was rolled out as it was by design and practicality. The original focus was resort guests. Once enough testing and tweaks were in place, their additional coding to support non-guests was applied and introduced.

Sure. Disney had every intent all along to hire all kinds of new CMs to permanently man kiosks for the foreseeable future for all the non-resort guests. Yep, that is it.

~LOL. Thank you awilliams4, I could not agree more. You have quite a gift with words.