Not to reopen that can of worms but...

Thank you so much!

Is MK the only park we can get more than three FP?

You can get more than 3 at any park, but it works best at MK, followed by AK. The two parks with tiers are hard to get additional 1st tier fPs, but it's possible. I hope that loosens up a bit in Epcot if Frozen is a popular tier 1. Could spread it out a bit more for further FPs
 
I'm sure this question has been asked before...I just haven't been on and read though enough threads to run into it...Because of the Tiers at EPCOT, if I am only really interested in the tier 1 attractions, should I just only book my 1 tier 1 and not use my other 2 so that I have a better shot at getting another tier 1 later in the day/evening rather than waiting for at least 2 more hours of tier 2 FPs to clear? And if I do this, can I only keep booking 1 tier 1 at a time after I've completed my 1 that I pre-booked or if there are 3 tier 1 attractions available can then book 3 at that point when I'm in the park that day? Or can I only book one more FP and not be able to get another until that 1 expires? Ugh. Just when I think I understand how the new FPs work, I'm confused again.

My last trip was before the switch to FP+. So far, I am not thrilled with all of the work it is taking to plan-and believe me-I'm a planner-I LOVE to plan my WDW trip, but this is taking it to a place that is no longer fun and it feels a bit stressful. The only positive I see of this so far is when you can book a FP for much later in the day like on the day you arrive. I admit, I was a pro and knew how to work the old paper FPs. I probably won't lose as much weight this trip crisscrossing the park constantly like we used to! LOL! It will be interesting to see if my mind is changed after our trip. So far, I'm not sure I will love the new system.
 

ok...found my answer-only one at a time in park even if I only pre-booked 1. darn.
 
ok...found my answer-only one at a time in park even if I only pre-booked 1. darn.

You CAN'T just pre-book one FP+.

You are required to pre-book all three, or none at all.
 
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Oh man, that stinks!

If you ever get another chance, and want a fairly low stress viewing of Wishes, I would recommend watching from the TTC. We weren't in the park that day but parked at the TTC that night and had an easy non-crowded exit right after they were over. We were in bed asleep around half an hour later.

Wishes by mom2rtk, on Flickr

Nice shot!
 
My DD and I had our first trip using FP+ this past March. It had been approx 18 months since our previous visit and I think it's safe to say we had really mastered/maximized the use of the old FP system. With that in mind I was a little nervous of how FP+ was going to work for us. On my 60 day mark I stayed up until midnight to make my FP+ selections. The only thing that we really wanted was 7DMT which i was able to get on both our MK days.

So after experiencing FP+ over an 8 day trip, in general, I'm OK with it. I don't love it or hate it....it's just OK. I found that the time between FP+ was often not enough to do much or else it was too much time. A couple of times we were able to change up the time to get something within 5 or 10 minutes. So that was something that worked really well. I didn't have any trouble with the app other than it being very slow to respond. I was not thrilled with the kiosk situation. I think there are not nearly enough of them and that they are too spread out. Also, they don't function well. I don't understand why you can not use the app to make your 4+ selections.
 
I'm curious if they'll do a cost/benefit analysis to determine if their "profit" from the Magic Band experience outweighs the costs of the ridiculous numbers of magic bands they are creating, the servers required to monitor and track this immense system and the cost associated to the workarounds such as throw away rooms?
 
I'm curious if they'll do a cost/benefit analysis to determine if their "profit" from the Magic Band experience outweighs the costs of the ridiculous numbers of magic bands they are creating, the servers required to monitor and track this immense system and the cost associated to the workarounds such as throw away rooms?



I think they're too busy trying to hide all those extra costs to actually take an honest look at it.
 
I'm curious if they'll do a cost/benefit analysis to determine if their "profit" from the Magic Band experience outweighs the costs of the ridiculous numbers of magic bands they are creating, the servers required to monitor and track this immense system and the cost associated to the workarounds such as throw away rooms?

Not sure what the cost of a throwaway room would be, someone is paying for the room, does Disney care whether someone is actually sleeping in it or not? I would think the cost of physical Magicbands is relatively minor, compared to computer power, and the benefit of all that computer power would be a mountain of valuable data on how guests tour the park and spend money.

The main question would be: has guest spending with Magicbands increased enough to justify the $1Billion project. I read that the answer was supposedly "no", it sounded like recent quarters revenue increases are due mostly to increased prices. Of course, Disney is not going to say anything if they consider it a failure.
 
The main question would be: has guest spending with Magicbands increased enough to justify the $1Billion project. I read that the answer was supposedly "no", it sounded like recent quarters revenue increases are due mostly to increased prices. Of course, Disney is not going to say anything if they consider it a failure.


......... and Disney would have raised prices without MM+ so it's really hard to draw a causal relationship.
 
I think they're too busy trying to hide all those extra costs to actually take an honest look at it.

Yes - if they took an honest look at it, my guess is that key people would lose their jobs. Better to sweep it under the rug and find a way to justify their past decisions.

I have said it before. FP+, MDE and Magicbands didn't really have an adverse effect on our vacation. But they didn't have much of a positive effect either. I can't for the life of me think the money spent on these innovations was WELL SPENT.
 
Not sure what the cost of a throwaway room would be, someone is paying for the room, does Disney care whether someone is actually sleeping in it or not? I would think the cost of physical Magicbands is relatively minor, compared to computer power, and the benefit of all that computer power would be a mountain of valuable data on how guests tour the park and spend money.

The main question would be: has guest spending with Magicbands increased enough to justify the $1Billion project. I read that the answer was supposedly "no", it sounded like recent quarters revenue increases are due mostly to increased prices. Of course, Disney is not going to say anything if they consider it a failure.
Typically the throw away rooms are cancelled and since Disney requires a deposit that is typically done with a credit card which means they incur a fee with the credit and debit that occurs for the booking and cancellation. While not huge for the individual transaction it will add up.
 
Typically the throw away rooms are cancelled and since Disney requires a deposit that is typically done with a credit card which means they incur a fee with the credit and debit that occurs for the booking and cancellation. While not huge for the individual transaction it will add up.
Really? I'd like to know your source for that information.
 














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