Not sure $149 Disney After Hrs event is doing well... (ETA: reviews in 1st post)

[disneyseniors]

It is a stand alone ticket without the need for other park admission. And the 7:00 entry bothers me. It will cause a crunch in the park between 7:00-10:00 and put downward pressure on ADRs from 7:00-9:00 all to the detriment of people who are already in the park. Want to make a special, limited admission event? Fine. But they should keep it separate from normal operating hours.

YES, YES, YES, I've been saying this for a while!!
If I paid a regular day's admission expecting to use the park til 10pm, with the normal crowds, then I would be very upset!
I feel sorry for the regular admission guests who see the barrage of DAH guests entering enmass at 7pm to greatly overcrowd the already crowded park.
I forsee a lot of very angry guests who feel, rightly so, that their regular admission was sabotaged by this early entry.
If Disney wants to do this DAH, then please, please just do it from l0pm to 1 or 2am! I have not problem with that at all.
But people want the most for their money, so you can bet it will be crowded at 7pm, making a miserable evening for regular admission guests.
So, I'm with you on this one, JimmyV.
I was at the MK on a party day last year, and they let the masses in at 4pm. It was miserable, huge waits on rides, crowded walkways, everything was severely overcrowded. We left early, which is probably what Disney wants!

 

[sretav]

YES, YES, YES, I've been saying this for a while!!
If I paid a regular day's admission expecting to use the park til 10pm, with the normal crowds, then I would be very upset!
I feel sorry for the regular admission guests who see the barrage of DAH guests entering enmass at 7pm to greatly overcrowd the already crowded park.
I forsee a lot of very angry guests who feel, rightly so, that their regular admission was sabotaged by this early entry.
If Disney wants to do this DAH, then please, please just do it from l0pm to 1 or 2am! I have not problem with that at all.
But people want the most for their money, so you can bet it will be crowded at 7pm, making a miserable evening for regular admission guests.
So, I'm with you on this one, JimmyV.
I was at the MK on a party day last year, and they let the masses in at 4pm. It was miserable, huge waits on rides, crowded walkways, everything was severely overcrowded. We left early, which is probably what Disney wants!

But don't party guests for the other parties also get in 3 hours early (4 pm for a 7 pm park close/party start)? And the park closes 3 hours earlier than it should. I'd be more annoyed paying full price for a park ticket and getting kicked out 3 hours early.

 

[disneyseniors]

But don't party guests for the other parties also get in 3 hours early (4 pm for a 7 pm park close/party start)? And the park closes 3 hours earlier than it should. I'd be more annoyed paying full price for a park ticket and getting kicked out 3 hours early.

Yes, like I've said, I went to a party night when the flood gates opened at 4pm and it was miserable. I just wish they would let the party guests in at the hours they have stated, so these would not interfere with other guests regular admission hours. I know, I know, you can just check first and not go those dates.
That would be lovely in a perfect world. But what about those families who only have that day for MK, or those multitude of guests who have no clue about any of this? Just wish it would be more fair, but it's not a fair world

 

[Mikie]

I really think this is all an experiment to see where the ceiling is on the pricing for MNSSHP and MVMCP.

Hadn't thought of that. Possibly trying to calculate how to combat complaints about overcrowded parties? Test to see just how much someone will pay for "limited crowds" and see whether they could benefit from reducing #of party tickets if they raise prices enough. Not sure whether this test would give very good data, though, because of the lack of special features.

But don't party guests for the other parties also get in 3 hours early (4 pm for a 7 pm park close/party start)? And the park closes 3 hours earlier than it should. I'd be more annoyed paying full price for a park ticket and getting kicked out 3 hours early.

Yes, they do, and it often sucks for non party goers during those overlap hours. A risk we take traveling that time of year with lowish crowds and better weather.

 

[ITALIANNYC]

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[jhaig]

Disney will continue to offer ridiculously priced "special" events as long as people continue to buy tickets for them.

At this point they could offer a special limited time event featuring exclusive access to the Rapunzel bathrooms for 50 bucks an hour after park closing and they would sell out.

As long as people think there is something special or exclusive involved, they will pay.

Baa baa baa we are sheep......

 

[jhaig]

I really think this is all an experiment to see where the ceiling is on the pricing for MNSSHP and MVMCP.

Perhaps, but they would really need to limit the number of tickets sold considering most parties last year were oversold, sweaty disasters. Hence marking up tickets and selling less of them sort of makes sense.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I suspect this is a test for something. Same for the Early Morning Event.

I wouldn't expect a price drop, they will just kill it rather than do that. Something similar happened with the Illuminations Dessert Party...they just decided to reduce the days it was offered rather than lower the price.

 

[Ladyfish77]

For anyone who attends tonight, please look and see if they put up the "Sold Out" event signs. I feel like they might do this to ramp up the enthusiasm and make people wish they had bought a ticket earlier. It's false advertising in my mind, though.

 

[mom2rtk]

I suspect this is a test for something. Same for the Early Morning Event.

I wouldn't expect a price drop, they will just kill it rather than do that. Something similar happened with the Illuminations Dessert Party...they just decided to reduce the days it was offered rather than lower the price.

I agree they won't drop the price.

And my suspicion is that they are testing out special events to use with the new Epcot and/or DHS offerings (maybe even AK with ROL) when they open.

How much is it worth not to have to spend your limited FPs on these new attractions without tiers?

 

[tlmadden73]

I agree they won't drop the price.

And my suspicion is that they are testing out special events to use with the new Epcot and/or DHS offerings (maybe even AK with ROL) when they open.

How much is it worth not to have to spend your limited FPs on these new attractions without tiers?

This ..

My guess is if this works out it will expand.

Think of everyone wanting "exclusive" or "limited" access to the new Frozen ride .. Pandora at AK AND the new Star Wars Lands and Toy Story Lands.

I know I personally would pay for an early morning or late night event to experience those new lands at DHS without a ton of crowds ... at least once.

 

[Mikie]

This ..

My guess is if this works out it will expand.

Think of everyone wanting "exclusive" or "limited" access to the new Frozen ride .. Pandora at AK AND the new Star Wars Lands and Toy Story Lands.

I know I personally would pay for an early morning or late night event to experience those new lands at DHS without a ton of crowds ... at least once.

Thinking of this as a scientific experiment, I just think it's too different to give relevant results. MK is a totally different park from any other, would a test here really tell you anything conclusive about how well an event would do in Epcot?

However, in trying to answer "how much will people pay for early/easy access to the current in-demand attraction?" I guess there's no better alternative to testing with 7 dwarfs.

 

[ashleyrm]

We arrive tomorrow, so I went ahead and signed up. Will report back!!

Did the email say you could bring non-DVC guests?

 

[bbjunkie]

Did the email say you could bring non-DVC guests?

I read that tickets were allocated for 6000 which put it way too big a crowd for the price for me. And I am one of the few who actually prefer paying for these events as long as you don't have to queue as that's the whole point of it to me.

I used to love those e-ride nights as quite a few times you could stay on the ride as many times as you liked as there was no one else waiting to ride it. I must have been on space mountain about 6 times in a row before starting to feel a bit sick. Now that experience is well worth paying for.

I also hope that they do keep offering free tickets to DVC members even though I am not a member as they have taken away a lot of perks from them over the years.

I'm not the poster you are referencing. But, if there are only very select restaurants open and a few less rides that 6000 might seem bigger than you would think. How many people at a given time during the day are eating or standing in line to eat? Or waiting for a parade or waiting for characters?

We went to an awesome emh til 2 am about 5 or 6 yrs ago. Place was empty and that was great, but they had no where to eat at all. I think they said Casey's is open this time...that was probably it when we went. So everyone there is all about the rides. You don't have as much shopping, dining, parades, shows eating up some of the people. Or characters (are there any characters at this event?) That sucks up a lot of people too.

Edited: looks like they have the princesses...but not sure if any other charachters

YES, YES, YES, I've been saying this for a while!!
If I paid a regular day's admission expecting to use the park til 10pm, with the normal crowds, then I would be very upset!
I feel sorry for the regular admission guests who see the barrage of DAH guests entering enmass at 7pm to greatly overcrowd the already crowded park.
I forsee a lot of very angry guests who feel, rightly so, that their regular admission was sabotaged by this early entry.
If Disney wants to do this DAH, then please, please just do it from l0pm to 1 or 2am! I have not problem with that at all.
But people want the most for their money, so you can bet it will be crowded at 7pm, making a miserable evening for regular admission guests.
So, I'm with you on this one, JimmyV.
I was at the MK on a party day last year, and they let the masses in at 4pm. It was miserable, huge waits on rides, crowded walkways, everything was severely overcrowded. We left early, which is probably what Disney wants!

I think 6,000 guests will feel like a drop in the bucket and the park will feel empty. While it's likely that people will be drawn toward specific rides, there are several and they load 100 people per 5 minutes. Not everyone is going to 7DMT. You'll see most (probably) at all 3 mountains, 7DMT, Haunted Mansion, Peter Pan, Princesses, and probably Buzz. Others will disperse amongst the other open attractions. It will feel like there is no one there.

Also, yes, they get in at 7:00, but at least for right now, it is not comparable to the crowd let in early for a party. The parties have 5-6 times as many people holding tickets. That is noticeable. 6,000 people walking in at 7:00 on a low-crowd day will, again, not be particularly noticeable to the people already in the park.

 

[Ladyfish77]

Also it's interesting that a DVC member said they tried to get free tickets and that they were all gone. Yet tonight's event is still available for purchase on MDE. Makes one wonder just how few tickets have been sold and how many DVC free tickets were offered.

 

[Misha72683]

Yes, like I've said, I went to a party night when the flood gates opened at 4pm and it was miserable. I just wish they would let the party guests in at the hours they have stated, so these would not interfere with other guests regular admission hours. I know, I know, you can just check first and not go those dates.
That would be lovely in a perfect world. But what about those families who only have that day for MK, or those multitude of guests who have no clue about any of this? Just wish it would be more fair, but it's not a fair world

There is a big difference between 30,000 people at a Halloween party and the 6,000 or so that's been throwing around for EMH. Makes a big difference for crowds.

 

[Sevey13]

Disney will continue to offer ridiculously priced "special" events as long as people continue to buy tickets for them.

At this point they could offer a special limited time event featuring exclusive access to the Rapunzel bathrooms for 50 bucks an hour after park closing and they would sell out.

As long as people think there is something special or exclusive involved, they will pay.

Baa baa baa we are sheep......

All due respect, you really don't seem to want to engage in the conversation here. All the talk on this thread is about how this event clearly ISN'T selling out, and you come and drop hyperbole about the Tangled toilets.

 

[ashleyrm]

Did the email say you could bring non-DVC guests?

I found out from a friend that DVC members were allowed to bring 3 guests. That's a lot of non-DVC people getting into an event that a lot of people paid $149+ to attend. I'd be a bit peeved if I had paid for it.

 

[HopperFan]

I really think this is all an experiment to see where the ceiling is on the pricing for MNSSHP and MVMCP.

At it's core I think it's an experiment to see if guests will pay for EMH .... but I do think the prices for the parties have not been released until they see how this event is received. 2 for 1

 

[HopperFan]

There is a big difference between 30,000 people at a Halloween party and the 6,000 or so that's been throwing around for EMH. Makes a big difference for crowds.

I have been to a MNSSHP that only sold 9000 tickets and it was as if we had booked the park for a private party. It was AWESOME! This After Hours PM party has great potential.