No the Magic isn’t gone but it’s at 25%

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I feel a support group coming together I still owe you a butterbeer I think - so I have no problem having our first meeting in Hogsmeade!

You missed the opportunity last month but that would have been great!



Sure was delicious though, aww now I wanna go back

 

[john7994]

You missed the opportunity last month but that would have been great!

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Sure was delicious though, aww now I wanna go back

I feel the pain, and the addiction these parks create - those butterbeer dole whip pushers! I am trying so hard to work in a Universal Day so bad on one of these next trips - but always outnumbered.

 

[leiaorgana]

If people don't speak with their wallets then expect nothing to change. You can complain all you want on a fan board, but if you continue to give them your money then you're accomplishing nothing. I went made the best of it and had a great time. I won't be going back until some improvements in genie plus are made, Tron is open, and room discounts return. It's not a hard decision to make. I'm not here to defend Disney, but I've never had a bad WDW vacation. There is a limit to what I am willing to spend though and I think I've hit my limit. A Disney ship is my happy place anyway.

I’ve being going since the early 90s and have never had a bad Disney vacation either and I’m hoping my one in two weeks time won’t be either. I’m not going there with a negative mindset and I fully intend to enjoy myself as much as possible whilst I’m there. I don’t stay onsite because it’s not worth it imo and my family have a timeshare in the area so they were never getting that money from me in the first place.

The two trips I’m taking this year were already booked and paid for in 2020 before the pandemic hit and have been rearranged multiple times due to border restrictions not being lifted in time so I’m going there regardless of how I feel about certain managerial decisions because I’m not losing thousands of pounds I’ve already spent over it. My flights to Florida are already booked for next year but whether I go to Disney or just do the other parks in the area on that trip all depends on how well these two trips go.

I think the discussion on here has been quite level headed so far compared to other places on the internet. Take one look at Twitter, TikTok or Reddit and you’ll see a lot more harsher and volatile criticism on those platforms from more diehard fans than I’ll ever be than has been voiced on here. The majority of them are Disney influencers in someway or another.

 

[Smugpugmug]

I think the discussion on here has been quite level headed so far compared to other places on the internet. Take one look at Twitter, TikTok or Reddit and you’ll see a lot more harsher and volatile criticism on those platforms from more diehard fans than I’ll ever be than has been voiced on here. The majority of them are Disney influencers in someway or another.

I agree. If anyone thinks the discussions on here are too negative, then don't join any Disney Facebook page. I'm on a WDW page and it's like a battlefield on there. The amount of toxicity is insane. The annual passholders ones are so bad I actually had to leave after joining one for less than 12 hours.

 

[wabbott]

I agree. If anyone thinks the discussions on here are too negative, then don't join any Disney Facebook page. I'm on a WDW page and it's like a battlefield on there. The amount of toxicity is insane. The annual passholders ones are so bad I actually had to leave after joining one for less than 12 hours.

Surely Chapek and the Powers That Be know of this discontent amongst the guests?

 

[mercuryvenus]

You missed the opportunity last month but that would have been great!

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Sure was delicious though, aww now I wanna go back

I got frozen butterbeer last week in Hogsmeade … it was SO GOOD!

 

[dez1978]

When you have kids you may sing a different tune. You have no idea what it costs to clothe and feed them on a daily basis much less what it costs to feed them at WDW. Maybe you are super rich and can do it, but most families can't afford Disney world as it is much less spend and an extra 2-3k on express passes.

I have 2 kids, and we just stayed at Hard rock becasue it included express passes. We stay Deluxe at Disney so I'd be glad if they went the same route.

 

[DCLMP]

I have 2 kids, and we just stayed at Hard rock becasue it included express passes. We stay Deluxe at Disney so I'd be glad if they went the same route.

Disney deluxes are at least double Universal. I doubt they would offer discounts if express passes were included. I’m not about to spend 800 a night for a resort. Like I said I’ve reached my limit on what I’m willing to spend at WDW. As much as I love it I’m not going to bankrupt or get angry over all the changes. The only reason we went so much the last two years were the deep discounts and Florida was open for business. The rest of the World is opening and international travel is coming back. I don‘t think we’re too far off from room discounts returning. My guess is under a year.

 

[Smugpugmug]

Surely Chapek and the Powers That Be know of this discontent amongst the guests?

Maybe they do but I doubt they care as long as these same people arguing are still giving them money. Right before checking back on here I just read an argument on one of these groups as to whether MK should serve hard liquor or not. People were really at each other's throats over alcohol in a theme park rather than discussing actual criticisms.

 

[dez1978]

Disney deluxes are at least double Universal. I doubt they would offer discounts if express passes were included. I’m not about to spend 800 a night for a resort. Like I said I’ve reached my limit on what I’m willing to spend at WDW. As much as I love it I’m not going to bankrupt or get angry over all the changes. The only reason we went so much the last two years were the deep discounts and Florida was open for business. The rest of the World is opening and international travel is coming back. I don‘t think we’re too far off from room discounts returning. My guess is under a year.

I spent $500/night at hard rock. You can get a room at WL or SSR for about that same price...

 

[twoplustwins]

Runaway Railway and Remy are both garbage. We were so disappointed. Rise and GOTG were fantastic.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I feel the pain, and the addiction these parks create - those butterbeer dole whip pushers! I am trying so hard to work in a Universal Day so bad on one of these next trips - but always outnumbered.

Oh come on! Did you have to mention dole whip Now I want one and be transported back to MK



Side note my DISer group of friends missed our park touring time so much we've planned a Silver Dollar City weekend trip for next month. For 4 of us it's around a 3 1/2 hour drive for the other 2 actually coming (we have like 9 of us total in our DISer group) they are coming from Orlando..but hey we went down there for their wedding last month soooo Sadly no Dole Whips or Butterbeers in sight for that trip but it'll do I suppose

 

[john7994]

Oh come on! Did you have to mention dole whip Now I want one and be transported back to MK

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Side note my DISer group of friends missed our park touring time so much we've planned a Silver Dollar City weekend trip for next month. For 4 of us it's around a 3 1/2 hour drive for the other 2 actually coming (we have like 9 of us total in our DISer group) they are coming from Orlando..but hey we went down there for their wedding last month soooo Sadly no Dole Whips or Butterbeers in sight for that trip but it'll do I suppose

That should be a fun trip, I have only 49 more days left, to the next trip!
I think we found the where the 25% of the magic went.

 

[DCLMP]

I spent $500/night at hard rock. You can get a room at WL or SSR for about that same price...

That’s very unusual. I paid 325.00 at PBH last month. In August I paid about the same for club level at Hardrock. Universal discounts have been as scarce as Disneys this year, but considering the state of the economy I expect discounts to return next year.

In normal years Universal resorts have been considerably cheaper. The best way to get a good discount at Universal is to upgrade to an annual. It cost me 25.00 each to upgrade my 3 day park hoppers to seasonal annual passes..total steal.

 

[mercuryvenus]

Runaway Railway and Remy are both garbage. We were so disappointed. Rise and GOTG were fantastic.

They’re family rides for a family theme park.

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

Side note my DISer group of friends missed our park touring time so much we've planned a Silver Dollar City weekend trip for next month. For 4 of us it's around a 3 1/2 hour drive for the other 2 actually coming (we have like 9 of us total in our DISer group) they are coming from Orlando..but hey we went down there for their wedding last month soooo Sadly no Dole Whips or Butterbeers in sight for that trip but it'll do I suppose

Don’t miss the SDC cinnamon bread. It’s exceptional.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Don’t miss the SDC cinnamon bread. It’s exceptional.

It's been 15 years since I've been there, it's like it's all new again lol. I'll have to write that down as a make sure to get thing so thanks for that!

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

It's been 15 years since I've been there, it's like it's all new again lol. I'll have to write that down as a make sure to get thing so thanks for that!

Clara Belle’s Cinnamon Bread is very close to Mystic River Falls. Be prepared to wait in line 30-40 minutes on a busy day. It’s probably the most popular shop in the park.

 

[DCLMP]

They’re family rides for a family theme park.

My husband and nineteen-year-old rode them for the first time and enjoyed them. From what I understand the Remi ride was very popular in France that's why they brought it here. Different strokes for different folks I guess, but both rides are very popular.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Clara Belle’s Cinnamon Bread is very close to Mystic River Falls. Be prepared to wait in line 30-40 minutes on a busy day. It’s probably the most popular shop in the park.

Good to know!