Upcoming flight cancellations

[brentm77]

Delta is treating this as a very temporary interruption right now, with impacted travel dates currently listed as November 7–9. Delta likely only wants to deal with limited changes right now and will just roll the date forward as necessary, so I am not reading too much into this.

I remain hopeful and hope all of you get to your cruises with the least amount of interruption possible. I am personally considering booking some fully refundable airline tickets for our cruise in December as backup.

 

[SirDuff]

This is wrong

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/passenger-rights/air/index_en.htm

EU air passenger rights apply:
If your flight is within the EU and is operated either by an EU or a non-EU airline
If your flight arrives in the EU from outside the EU and is operated by an EU airline
If your flight departs from the EU to a non-EU country operated by an EU or a non-EU airline

EU means the 27 EU countries, including Guadeloupe, French Guiana, Martinique, Mayotte, Réunion, Saint Barthélemy, Saint-Martin (French Antilles), the Azores, Madeira and the Canary Islands, but not the Faeroe Islands. EU rules also apply to flights to and from Iceland, Norway and Switzerland.

EC 261 most definitely does cover United, American, Jet Blue transatlantic flights.

You actually just backed up the previous poster. If it is not an EU airline, you are NOT covered on a flight from the US to the EU.

It seems you have such a strong need to tell someone that they are wrong, that you literally change their sentence in order to do so. The sentence you misquoted said:

EC 261 will NOT cover non European based airlines (United, American, Jet Blue, etc. ) flying TO the EU

You changed the meaning by cutting off the last four words.

 

[SirDuff]

The long hauls at Denver are once per day maximum and impact 300+ people, they aren't covered by other routes. The short flight I'm talking about is a 60-minute drive and can be traveled by public bus, uber, etc (airlines have actually bused people between them before when there were issues). I imagine they will prioritize larger planes with more people just due to the fact that having to reschedule or cancel 50 people is way cheaper and easier for any airline than 400 people.

On the other hand, while there may be more people on the plane, over a 24-hour period, the flight to Europe will take no more than two trips, so, using your 300 number, that's 600 people affected. In a 24-hour period, a regional plane might make 20+ trips, assuming even only 50 people per flight, that's 1,000 people.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

a regional plane might make 20+ trips, assuming even only 50 people per flight, that's 1,000 people.

That's a broad and presumption of what a "regional" plane would do/comprise of.

I get what you're getting at but a plane only carrying 50 people would that even have 20 flights in a day? It's a lot of fuel, gate fees, crew, etc being eaten up there. Much less knowing that that occurs for all the airlines and airports being affected here.

I think the basic point is typically speaking long-hauls which don't just include international but to Hawaii as well a on a generous definition coast to coast at a flight time of 5 1/2hrs or so (aviation standard seems to be around the 6 hour mark) carry more passengers with less ability to reconfigure alternatives not to mention typically a lot more revenue and more disruption to re-accommodate those passengers most especially if you're talking about partner airlines in the mix. A less-used route or a very regional flight on a small plane can be less of an overall disruption especially if as what we know at the moment the only directive is that flights are being reduced at specified airports not "flights with passengers over X amount" for example with the airlines being left to figure out how they want to do it.

Using the person's example of 300 people that is 300 people all at once needing accommodation. In this rare instance you may have people canceling ahead of time because some airlines are allowing it but yeah. Or you could have 1,2, maybe 3 flights with only 50 people cancelled in one day and have that effect (which using the example is half of the people of the long-haul) spread out on accommodation. More or less it just takes a lot more of a small passenger plane cancellations to get up to the net effect of canceling even just 1 several hundred passenger plane. In the instance of our British Airways flight (granted it was coming from England back to the U.S.) it was a 500 passenger plane.

It doesn't mean that long-hauls wouldn't be impacted but it seems they are heavily concentrated on domestic travel (which has the most FAA burden if you're bouncing between U.S. airports).

 

[lowlight]

Just a heads up, sorry to everyone who had planned trips

If you are thinking about a trip...I would wait

The current administration has no problem making us suffer and things will only get worst and even if the people are blaming them, the government is trying to push this on the side with less power.

So I think this will last into December if not longer

Sir, this is a Wendy’s.

 

[Kwami]

Delta is treating this as a very temporary interruption right now, with impacted travel dates currently listed as November 7–9. Delta likely only wants to deal with limited changes right now and will just roll the date forward as necessary, so I am not reading too much into this.

I remain hopeful and hope all of you get to your cruises with the least amount of interruption possible. I am personally considering booking some fully refundable airline tickets for our cruise in December as backup.

United, too. They've posted their schedule changes for tomorrow and Saturday.

 

[Genie+]

So far I’m only seeing one cancelled flight EWR to MCO tomorrow.



And so far no cancellations for MCO-EWR tomorrow.

This is ‘Jersey Week’ and it would be nice if things don’t get too bad for folks coming home this weekend, or for anybody else traveling soon.

I’m hoping United was able to get those passengers on other flights