Upcoming flight cancellations

I’m confused will flights be cancelled at these? Shut right down? My husband thinks he read it won’t affect International flights which we are from Canada.
 
EC 261 will NOT cover non European based airlines (United, American, Jet Blue, etc. )

This is wrong

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/passenger-rights/air/index_en.htm

EU air passenger rights apply:
If your flight is within the EU and is operated either by an EU or a non-EU airline
If your flight arrives in the EU from outside the EU and is operated by an EU airline
If your flight departs from the EU to a non-EU country operated by an EU or a non-EU airline

EU means the 27 EU countries, including Guadeloupe, French Guiana, Martinique, Mayotte, Réunion, Saint Barthélemy, Saint-Martin (French Antilles), the Azores, Madeira and the Canary Islands, but not the Faeroe Islands. EU rules also apply to flights to and from Iceland, Norway and Switzerland.

EC 261 most definitely does cover United, American, Jet Blue transatlantic flights.
 
“If your flight arrives in the EU from outside the EU and is operated by an EU airline”

I am saying that if your flight arrives in the EU from outside the EU but is NOT operated by an EU based airline, EC261 will not apply.

United is not an EU based airline. It’s a US based airline.


  • If you are traveling from a European Union airport on any airline
  • If you are traveling to a European Union airport on a European Union-based airline
In other words:

  • If you’re flying from Frankfurt to Newark, EC261 would apply regardless of whether you’re traveling with Lufthansa or United
  • If you’re flying from Newark to Frankfurt, EC261 would only apply on Lufthansa, and not on United (since United isn’t a European Union-based airline)”
It really doesn’t matter at the moment. The Fantasy is headed back to the US si at least no DCL cruises in Europe in the near future.
 
I’m confused will flights be cancelled at these? Shut right down? My husband thinks he read it won’t affect International flights which we are from Canada.
My understanding is that they will have their air traffic cut by 10% at these airports. I can't say if that means just incoming flights, just outgoing flights or a combination of the two on how they get to the reduced number. The changes should start on Friday and are to be phased in, with the full 10% reduction reached by next week (again don't know by when next week).

I would expect this to affect international and domestic flights.

Psy
 

This is wrong
You didn't pick up @Girl of the South 's full quote, you cut off the last 4 words:
EC 261 will NOT cover non European based airlines (United, American, Jet Blue, etc. ) flying TO the EU.

United, American, JetBlue are only covered by EC261 if the flight originates in the EU. Flights on these airlines into the EU are not covered. And the "extraordinary circumstances" clause is quite likely to be invoked.
 
I’m confused will flights be cancelled at these? Shut right down? My husband thinks he read it won’t affect International flights which we are from Canada.

Based on the self reported airline info I'm seeing, international flights won't be affected (yet). But the only way to reduce volume is to cancel flights.

OP: I think the airlines will try to walk the tightrope between proactively cancelling and hoping the issue resolves itself.
 
You didn't pick up @Girl of the South 's full quote, you cut off the last 4 words:


United, American, JetBlue are only covered by EC261 if the flight originates in the EU. Flights on these airlines into the EU are not covered. And the "extraordinary circumstances" clause is quite likely to be invoked.
I'm not sure why this would even matter. Great you get a refund, but your still not getting where you want to go if your flight cancels.
 
Based on the self reported airline info I'm seeing, international flights won't be affected (yet). But the only way to reduce volume is to cancel flights.

OP: I think the airlines will try to walk the tightrope between proactively cancelling and hoping the issue resolves itself.
You would hope long haul flights would get priority. They carry more people and they don't have other options. They can't drive, take a train etc.
 

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