No more smoking or vaping in the parks

[4evryoung]

Disney most likely has run the numbers of what it was going to cost them to alienate a small percentage of their visitors vs. encouraging non smokers to put Disney down on their bucket list. They have obviously decided that getting rid of smoking areas, ice, and wagons won't impact their bottom line and since the vast majority of people are non-smokers, may even enhance it with more people wanting to come to Disney if it is designated as "smoke-free."

-A former smoker.

Or, some Millennium child who has been over-promoted and has anti-smoking prejudice has made a decision that does not reflect the customer base requirements. I actually believe that this decision has been promoted by someone who hasn't a clue about how it will impact on park operations.

 

[RamblingMad]

Or, some Millennium child who has been over-promoted and has anti-smoking prejudice has made a decision that does not reflect the customer base requirements. I actually believe that this decision has been promoted by someone who hasn't a clue about how it will impact on park operations.

I expect it will have zero impact.

 

[4evryoung]

My daughter is also triggered by scents

My sister's asthma is also triggered by perfume, hair spray and spray deodorants. I am thinking of launching a Disney petition to establish a security check at park entrances to identify those using theses health threatening pollutants and to ban their use in the parks and at the Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique. Are you all with me?

 

[Hrhpd]

Or, some Millennium child who has been over-promoted and has anti-smoking prejudice has made a decision that does not reflect the customer base requirements. I actually believe that this decision has been promoted by someone who hasn't a clue about how it will impact on park operations.

You could make that argument except that in most parts of the country, big entertainment venues have either successfully moved the DSAs outside of their entrances or banned smoking on the property completely. It has not impacted their bottom line and in many, many cases, it has increased their revenue. The small % of smokers are far outweighed by the non-smokers that prefer a smoke free environment. It is purely a business decision.

 

[Hrhpd]

My sister's asthma is also triggered by perfume, hair spray and spray deodorants. I am thinking of launching a Disney petition to establish a security check at park entrances to identify those using theses health threatening pollutants and to ban their use in the parks and at the Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique. Are you all with me?

You smoke around your sister with all these allergies?

 

[Patience]

Or, some Millennium child who has been over-promoted and has anti-smoking prejudice has made a decision that does not reflect the customer base requirements. I actually believe that this decision has been promoted by someone who hasn't a clue about how it will impact on park operations.

I am thrilled about the new smoking rules at Disney. I know practically no one who smokes. And I am not a millenial. I am 53.

 

[Jennasis]

My sister's asthma is also triggered by perfume, hair spray and spray deodorants. I am thinking of launching a Disney petition to establish a security check at park entrances to identify those using theses health threatening pollutants and to ban their use in the parks and at the Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique. Are you all with me?

To be fair, I would be all in on a perfume/scent ban. It was out of control on our last trip. I didn't think I had an adverse reaction to heavy scents but it seems I do. Maybe things have changed as I have aged, but this was the first time I felt bombarded by personal scents. I cannot for the life of me understand why people are wearing perfume to a theme park. Frankly, perfume is beyond unnecessary since BATHING is a thing now.

As for smokers, you can still go to Disney. Just have to adjust the when and where you smoke.

 

[slpeters]

Or, some Millennium child who has been over-promoted and has anti-smoking prejudice has made a decision that does not reflect the customer base requirements. I actually believe that this decision has been promoted by someone who hasn't a clue about how it will impact on park operations.

47 here and not sure I even know anyone who still smokes. I hardly ever even see anyone smoking any more--part of that is likely because it's illegal in most public spaces here. Incidentally back when it was banned in most venues, including bars, most Millennials weren't old enough to vote or smoke yet.

 

[PollyannaMom]

I cannot for the life of me understand why people are wearing perfume to a theme park.

Because they're walking a long way in the Florida heat, and they would rather smell like perfume than sweat??

Of course bathing/showing is necessary (I agree with you!) - but the freshness doesn't last very long. (And I sweat in more places than just under my arms, so deodorant doesn't fix everything either.)

I'm certainly not saying I drown myself in perfume! But I get why people wear a little.

 

[Jennasis]

Because they're walking a long way in the Florida heat, and they would rather smell like perfume than sweat??

Of course bathing/showing is necessary (I agree with you!) - but the freshness doesn't last very long. (And I sweat in more places than just under my arms, so deodorant doesn't fix everything either.)

I'm certainly not saying I drown myself in perfume! But I get why people wear a little.

If I can smell someone as they walk by (for any reason...smoke, BO, perfume, hairspray, then they have failed at life).

 

[Colleen27]

You could make that argument except that in most parts of the country, big entertainment venues have either successfully moved the DSAs outside of their entrances or banned smoking on the property completely. It has not impacted their bottom line and in many, many cases, it has increased their revenue. The small % of smokers are far outweighed by the non-smokers that prefer a smoke free environment. It is purely a business decision.

But as has been pointed out several times, none of those venues are places you spent 12 hours at a stretch. So there's a lot less likelihood of those places alienating smokers. I don't doubt this was a deliberate business decision on Disney's part, but it isn't quite as simple for them as doing what stadiums and concert venues are doing. There's a reason most theme parks still allow smoking. Disney is banking on the demand for their brand/experience being strong enough to offset any minor loss of business this causes, not following a social trend.

To be fair, I would be all in on a perfume/scent ban. It was out of control on our last trip. I didn't think I had an adverse reaction to heavy scents but it seems I do. Maybe things have changed as I have aged, but this was the first time I felt bombarded by personal scents. I cannot for the life of me understand why people are wearing perfume to a theme park. Frankly, perfume is beyond unnecessary since BATHING is a thing now.

Probably for the same reason they wear makeup. Habit and/or personal preference.

 

[Colleen27]

If I can smell someone as they walk by (for any reason...smoke, BO, perfume, hairspray, then they have failed at life).

At Disney, the overwhelming smell I notice is one that is virtually unavoidable - eau de Coppertone. Any crowded situation smells like a sunscreen truck overturned on a sun-baked highway. But as a pasty-white redhead myself, I can't exactly fault anyone for that. I'm certainly doing more than my share to add to it.

 

[P'colaBeachBum]

To be fair, I would be all in on a perfume/scent ban. It was out of control on our last trip. I didn't think I had an adverse reaction to heavy scents but it seems I do. Maybe things have changed as I have aged, but this was the first time I felt bombarded by personal scents. I cannot for the life of me understand why people are wearing perfume to a theme park. Frankly, perfume is beyond unnecessary since BATHING is a thing now.

As for smokers, you can still go to Disney. Just have to adjust the when and where you smoke.

I think some of the smell is not perfume but sun screen. Which brings me to another complaint....people using spray sun screen at the parks. Why can't they put it on BEFORE going to the parks!

 

[cabanafrau]

Or, some Millennium child who has been over-promoted and has anti-smoking prejudice has made a decision that does not reflect the customer base requirements. I actually believe that this decision has been promoted by someone who hasn't a clue about how it will impact on park operations.

And the evidence for any of your statement?

IMO the heart of this is parks bursting to the seams and space being at a premium -- particularly at DLR. DLR has been in the process of undergoing what they call Project Stardust for months in preparation for GE opening. Once the decision was made that space for DSAs was no longer available the decision was made to enact the same policies at all domestic parks simultaneously.

It's simply not a smart business move for a business scrabbling for every square inch of space to accommodate their business operations to elect to leave some of that incredibly valuable space earmarked for activity that has no revenue stream, isn't utilized by the majority of customers and continues to incur expenses for maintenance and cleanup. It seems an actual child in a high school business course could work out the logic behind making that decision.

 

[theSurlyMermaid]

Yup, Dole Whip stinks on those who have consumed it. And if you have a pineapple allergy it can ruin your vacation.

Ridiculous. My son and I have life threatening allergies to pineapple and Dole Whips don’t do anything provided we don’t consume them. It’s not even close to an asthma attack from smoke which permeates everything.

Just stop it with the straw men.

 

[Jennasis]

At Disney, the overwhelming smell I notice is one that is virtually unavoidable - eau de Coppertone. Any crowded situation smells like a sunscreen truck overturned on a sun-baked highway. But as a pasty-white redhead myself, I can't exactly fault anyone for that. I'm certainly doing more than my share to add to it.

I think some of the smell is not perfume but sun screen. Which brings me to another complaint....people using spray sun screen at the parks. Why can't they put it on BEFORE going to the parks!

Sunscreen lotion doesn't bother me at all for some reason but the spray on stuff? It KILLS ME. I assume it's the propellant. I can't use it at all. It triggers a massive asthma attack instantly.

 

[Hikergirl]

Or, some Millennium child who has been over-promoted and has anti-smoking prejudice has made a decision that does not reflect the customer base requirements. I actually believe that this decision has been promoted by someone who hasn't a clue about how it will impact on park operations.

over promoted and has anti-smoking prejudice?

You must have missed that memo 30 years ago and all the years since that smoking is terrible for your health and for those who are exposed to it.
signed- a 45 year old ex-smoker who has anti-smoking prejudices

 

[Colleen27]

I think some of the smell is not perfume but sun screen. Which brings me to another complaint....people using spray sun screen at the parks. Why can't they put it on BEFORE going to the parks!

They probably do... but sunscreen needs to be reapplied during the day. I always try to find an out-of-the-way place to reapply so as not to be spraying it around too many other people (smoking areas were actually rather useful for that), but for my bunch of gingers there's no going all day without a second coat unless we want to end up slightly overcooked by day's end.

 

[P'colaBeachBum]

They probably do... but sunscreen needs to be reapplied during the day. I always try to find an out-of-the-way place to reapply so as not to be spraying it around too many other people (smoking areas were actually rather useful for that), but for my bunch of gingers there's no going all day without a second coat unless we want to end up slightly overcooked by day's end.

There are so many good lotion sunscreens out there that are far better than spray. The spray goes into the air and is wasted.

 

[rajak73]

Or, some Millennium child who has been over-promoted and has anti-smoking prejudice has made a decision that does not reflect the customer base requirements. I actually believe that this decision has been promoted by someone who hasn't a clue about how it will impact on park operations.

How is it going to impact park operations? As someone that smoked for 30 years, I've been through the airlines smoking sections, rows 1-10 non smoking, rows 11-15 smoking, LOL like it wouldn't go forward any. Also when I started you could smoke anywhere, in department stores, anywhere in restaurants, anywhere in Theme parks, then they started to restrict it, smoking or non-smoking in restaurants, no smoking in department stores, DSA in theme parks and other places. Well I adapted and like others threaten that I wouldn't go back to those places again that restricted me. Well guess what, I did go back to those places, they all went non-smoking and smoking was on the downturn and not cool anymore. Forward and gave it up 22 years ago. IF we still smoked, we would adapt to this new restriction too. Don't always agree to some of the new restrictions but have learned to adapt.