No more smoking or vaping in the parks

[luvsJack]

Setting aside the lack of logic in the idea that someone simply feeling a bias allows them to define a someone else's actions, intent or motive as being prejudicial or that a single executive made this policy change, how would that interpretation of the term prejudice apply in regards to an executive making the decision to remove all DSAs from inside the parks?

I don't think the poster was serious. chill. Unless you made the decision, no reason to take it personally. And the pp said "prejudice" not me. I was just thinking that maybe he was implying that a pimply faced kid who thinks all smokers are disgusting made the decision. Not saying that's what happened and I am sure the poster knows that isn't what happened. It was just a comment.

 

[luvsJack]

I'm sure posters are using some exaggeration however as long as there are smokers who feel that they don't need to abide by DSAs there will always be non smoking guests who have to deal with walking through smoke. Hopefully after May 1 that will become less of an issue for non-smokers.

Yes, its very obvious there is a whole lot of exaggeration going on.

 

[Hikergirl]

Yes, its very obvious there is a whole lot of exaggeration going on.

Here? On the DIS? Why, I never!

 

[kaytieeldr]

My mother-in-law prefers spray sunscreen...but she kinda doesn't look where she's spraying at and they go through it so frequently. We were on their boat one time and I had seconds to get out of her path....it's a boat for pete's sake. I can jump off into the water sure but do I have to to escape your spray lol.

Well, it is their boat

i don’t think this will be a big deal. You’re more likely to smoke if you’re lower income, and you’re more likely to smoke if you live in the south in the US.

You're most likely to smoke if you are a divorced/separated/widowed uninsured gay male non-Hispanic American Indian or Alaska Native, living in the Midwest or South, between 25 and 64, with a disability and have been under severe psychological stress, with a GED and an income under $35K.

Or if you live in West Virginia.

I hope that poster wasn't being serious, but on the chance they were I didn't read (the bolded above) that way. Anti-smoking prejudices were mentioned, nothing about smokers.

Likely not in this thread, but in other recent threads smokers have been attacked. Not specific smokers, the general population of.

 

[mummabear]

The ban may also have something to do with pot being legalised in Cali.

 

[cabanafrau]

I don't think the poster was being serious, but you do realize there is a difference in "smoking is bad for you and those around you" and "you are disgusting because you smoke". The latter is what many make smokers feel they are actually saying. And I think, maybe that's the "prejudices" the poster could have been alluding to.

I don't think the poster was serious. chill. Unless you made the decision, no reason to take it personally. And the pp said "prejudice" not me. I was just thinking that maybe he was implying that a pimply faced kid who thinks all smokers are disgusting made the decision. Not saying that's what happened and I am sure the poster knows that isn't what happened. It was just a comment.

I actually had no problem discerning the hyperbole in the other poster's comments. Yours were the words I was responding to, I've bolded them for you above. If smokers want to get overly sensitive because non smokers don't feel like dealing with the spillover of someone else's nasty habits they don't get to declare it a prejudice. Taking it the step further as you did and attempting to shoehorn that idea into the previous hyperbole as an explanation doesn't seem remotely plausible IMO.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Well, it is their boat

lol ahhh but I'm the one who found it for them online lol

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

The ban may also have something to do with pot being legalised in Cali.

Hasn't weed always been prohibited though? I thought it was.

Even legalizing it at the state level shouldn't impact the prohibiting of it inside the parks by means of moving the DSA outside of the parks since it wasn't allowed in the first place.

 

[P'colaBeachBum]

Sorry to hear about the skin cancer

Thanks, we didn't know back in the day that using baby oil w/ iodine was bad for skin.

i don’t think this will be a big deal. You’re more likely to smoke if you’re lower income, and you’re more likely to smoke if you live in the south in the US.

Given that Disney is pricing out lower incomes, I think, the actual impact will be small.

I do think that the change will have a bigger impact at WDW than DL. Smoking rates are low in CA, and DL tends to pull in more locals than WDW.

I think, the Disney koolaid is more powerful than tobacco.

I can't speak for all us Southerners but the majority of people that smoke in my FL neighborhood are not from the South.

 

[RamblingMad]

Sure must be a whole lot of poor people at Disney and Universal. Every time I go to either one, there are big groups in the DSAs. Like so many at times that we just move on to a different one.

I think its a little funny that on the one hand everyone is saying "NOBODY smokes any more. It won't be an impact because statistically its mostly low income people who smoke and they don't go to Disney" and on the other hand saying "Every time I turn around I am having to walk through smoke".

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/disparities/low-ses/index.htm#prevalence

I’m pretty sure people near the poverty line aren’t in the parks. However, it’s still about 1.5 in 10 that smoke over all.

 

[RamblingMad]

I can't speak for all us Southerners but the majority of people that smoke in my FL neighborhood are not from the South.

https://www.cdc.gov/statesystem/cigaretteuseadult.html

 

[cabanafrau]

The ban may also have something to do with pot being legalised in Cali.

Hasn't weed always been prohibited though? I thought it was.

Even legalizing it at the state level shouldn't impact the prohibiting of it inside the parks by means of moving the DSA outside of the parks since it wasn't allowed in the first place.

There may be some validity to that connection. It's a lot easier to police if there's simply no smoking at all allowed in the parks. Although, just the same as with cigarettes, it's going to depend a lot on the level of enforcement deployed and the complications vaping will add to the situation, as that's now a common way for people to partake in marijuana as well.

 

[P'colaBeachBum]

https://www.cdc.gov/statesystem/cigaretteuseadult.html

I don't doubt the stats. I can only speak from my experience being from FL and seeing more and more Northerners moving to the South. Of those that come here a good number are over 65 and not giving up the habit. It's taking a toll on our health system too. Cigarettes are much cheaper here than in NY.

 

[RamblingMad]

I don't doubt the stats. I can only speak from my experience being from FL and seeing more and more Northerners moving to the South. Of those that come here a good number are over 65 and not giving up the habit. It's taking a toll on our health system too. Cigarettes are much cheaper here than in NY.

Then they increase the smoking rates in FL.

At the end of the day, economically, I don’t see any negative impact on Disney from this change.

 

[Hikergirl]

Likely not in this thread, but in other recent threads smokers have been attacked. Not specific smokers, the general population of.

Um Ok. Feel free to discuss that on those threads then.

 

[P'colaBeachBum]

Then they increase the smoking rates in FL.

At the end of the day, economically, I don’t see any negative impact on Disney from this change.

I agree, I don't think there will be a significant impact on Disney due to the ban.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I don't doubt the stats. I can only speak from my experience being from FL and seeing more and more Northerners moving to the South. Of those that come here a good number are over 65 and not giving up the habit. It's taking a toll on our health system too. Cigarettes are much cheaper here than in NY.

Only 8.2% of people 65 and older smoke. The moves can't be having a substantially greater effect.

Um Ok. Feel free to discuss that on those threads then.

I had said likely not in this thread. I was wrong. Here are just a few of the negative or disparaging posts:
https://www.disboards.com/threads/n...ng-in-the-parks.3742242/page-16#post-60442379
https://www.disboards.com/threads/n...ng-in-the-parks.3742242/page-10#post-60438735
https://www.disboards.com/threads/n...ing-in-the-parks.3742242/page-9#post-60438511
https://www.disboards.com/threads/n...ng-in-the-parks.3742242/page-11#post-60439613

 

[luvnwdwgal]

It’ll be interesting to see how they enforce this smoking ban. Sure there will be some people who will use the DSA but I really think most people will sneak off someplace and smoke wherever they can and unfortunately that will probably be in the bathrooms. Are they going to have CM Smoking Monitors everywhere? I’m not a smoker but I’d rather have DSA’s easily available for use than to have people sneaking cigarettes anywhere they can find where they think they can smoke one real quick.

 

[RamblingMad]

It’ll be interesting to see how they enforce this smoking ban. Sure there will be some people who will use the DSA but I really think most people will sneak off someplace and smoke wherever they can and unfortunately that will probably be in the bathrooms. Are they going to have CM Smoking Monitors everywhere? I’m not a smoker but I’d rather have DSA’s easily available for use than to have people sneaking cigarettes anywhere they can find where they think they can smoke one real quick.

Don’t allow tobacco products into the park would be the easiest way.

 

[DeniseJH]

Don’t allow tobacco products into the park would be the easiest way.

They'd have to strip-search, and I don't think anybody wants that.