No Lie Disney Dream Review

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They have drastically cut the amount of smoking areas down to 1 for the most part and a second from 6 to 6. Deck 4 was cut due to joggers. There are things that are just unethical to do. Children immitate what they see. Parents that have their children handle alcohol/cigarettes are attrocious in my opinion. My daughter will make her own choices when she is of age.

So what you are saying is that you are OK with your children smoking? But not having one drink at dinner one night? Alcohol is not the killer. It is the stupid people that drink way to much and then decide to drive. Smoking immediately causes issues as soon as smoke enters ones lungs. CHECK YOU FACTS! pirate:
 
Being a blogger I see more than a good percentage of other bloggers posting "excellent" reviews which is why bloggers are legally bound to scrutiny, and most don't follow that either. Most that receive things to review do lie. I have worked with hundreds of companies, and my reviews arfe dead on. In regards to smoking/alcohol... In NJ kids cannot sit at bars where tables are present. At waves many parents allowed their kids to sit there. Smoking is what I would like my kid to do rather than drink if she ever does either. Alcohol is PROVEN to be a killer. Smoking is attributed to cancer, but nothing solid has ever been proven in all reality. Everything I write is fact. Disney has received many complaints about the pools. 4000 people and the pools are smaller than the Magic or the Wonder.
I spoke to many people to see their response and everyone said I was pretty darn close to the bullseye on my thoughts.
Here...in case anyone is upset about the SUGAR COATING statement... A real large amount of people have given false opinions about certain aspects of the ship. Maybe they didn't review things as thoroughly to give their impressions. If you are a travel agent then I say no more.

1) To what law are you referring? Could you please provide a citation? Since "everything you write is fact", I'm sure that there must be a law you can cite for this "legal obligation".

2) Great. Then when people are in NJ, they shouldn't allow their children into bars. Since the ship is NOT in NJ, that fact is entirely irrelevant.

3) Actually, alcohol (used in moderation), unlike smoking has been shown to have beneficial effects (heart disease for example). I take it you've never read the Doll paper? It is still held as one of the preeminent epidemiological papers and has a relative risk that has rarely been equaled (in other words, the strength of the excess risk of lung cancer in smokers compared to non smokers is one of the highest published).

I have no issue with your opinions (though I may, or may not, agree with them). I have issues with your "facts" which are blatantly wrong.
 
I don't think that the reviews of others are necessarily "sugar coated" just because they had a different experience than you did. I'm sure that my taste is a lot different than another's taste. So I might have thought the cruise on the Dream was out of this world while clearly other might not. I take any review, good or bad, just for what it is and prefer to make my own judgements.

As far as the smoking vs alcohol. I have a lot more opionions on that and I won't share those because I'm in disagreement with OP. For the most part, drinking alcohol goes right over the heads of little kids and they don't even realize that there is something different in their parent's drink than theirs and really, they probably don't even care. All they know is that you're ordering a drink with a fun name and it's pretty, and that they can order a fun, pretty drink as well (though non-alcoholic). That said, I wouldn't take my daughter to the bar with me just because it's not for me. I'm looking forward to our cruise and to forming my own opinions. I'm pretty easy going so I think I'll be just fine and enjoy myself, especially if something so trivial as taking your KTTW card to CC was an issue. I wouldn't think twice about that.
 
If you are looking for direct cause of death being attributed to something like someone getting drunk and wrapping their car around a tree, I will give you that I don't have that type of data for smoking. That said, I could produce, with minimal effort, that type of data for baseball, gymnastics, crossing the street and bathing. Are you really telling us that you would prefer your child to smoke a cigarette than take a bath just because of a direct correlation versus indirect?

Actually, if I really cared, I'm sure I could find stats for fires that killed people and were started by a cigarette/cigar/pipe.
 

AMEN... Someone finally understands...
The rest of them just can't understand what they are reading obviously.
Sorul... BTW you were on the 10th cruise...
Was I far off what I wrote as far as you saw? (I am not related, or personal friends with Sorul either...)

I think the OP is referring to paid bloggers. Someone may come here, cruisecritic, etc and give their "opinion" but they are really being paid to sugar coat something. :confused3
 
Read through a lot of the travel bloggers that have written about the Dream, and you will see that I speak the truth about untruthful bloggers.

Being a blogger I see more than a good percentage of other bloggers posting "excellent" reviews which is why bloggers are legally bound to scrutiny, and most don't follow that either. Most that receive things to review do lie. I have worked with hundreds of companies, and my reviews arfe dead on.

Here...in case anyone is upset about the SUGAR COATING statement... A real large amount of people have given false opinions about certain aspects of the ship. Maybe they didn't review things as thoroughly to give their impressions. If you are a travel agent then I say no more.

Would you care to share with all of us who these "unthruthful bloggers" are?

As a blogger, travel agent and a long-time DIS-member who has written many reviews on these boards, I have to laugh at some of your comments about other people's reviews. People write reviews based on their experience, which, obviously, can differ greatly from that of the experience of their next door neighbours on the ship. And here you are putting their reviews down, claiming only yours to be truthful and not sugar-coated?

And then you preach to your readers about how to be, in your opinion, a good parent?

Wow!

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They have drastically cut the amount of smoking areas down to 1 for the most part and a second from 6 to 6. Deck 4 was cut due to joggers. There are things that are just unethical to do. Children immitate what they see. Parents that have their children handle alcohol/cigarettes are attrocious in my opinion. My daughter will make her own choices when she is of age.

Hmm. Are you saying you'd rather have your daughter watch someone smoking on Deck 4 than jogging? In cutting smoking areas to make room for joggers, it seems Disney is trying to promote a more healthy lifestyle. So, if children immitate what they see....they'd be immitating people exercising rather than smoking. And--just curious--as you don't like children sitting at bars....do you take your daughter to the smoking areas when you smoke?:confused3
 
No... That is a bit twisted of a comment... bathing has no close relation.
Drunk driving, Alcohol poisoning, Kidney disease, and many other "PROVEN" medical issues with alcohol are why I don't want my child subject to alcohol. I know that in all reality there are people out there that have diseases (God bless you, and hope you are well.) But... There are others out there that point the blame finger in multiple directions, and that's a fact. The exhaust on your car can kill quicker than a drink, or a cigarette. This is a mute point obviously. Most parents that are alcoholics feel it is ok to "Influence" their innocent children. We don't smoke in the house, or around our child. There are so many things that are killing everyone these days that everyone needs to realize that it is our lives. I don't criticize alcoholics. I do speak my peace when companies take the money side of things over anything else. How about letting the alcoholics drink in a corner of the boat. Segregate them and we can talk.

Actually, if I really cared, I'm sure I could find stats for fires that killed people and were started by a cigarette/cigar/pipe.
 
We make her stay in visible sight, and not in the area.


Hmm. Are you saying you'd rather have your daughter watch someone smoking on Deck 4 than jogging? In cutting smoking areas to make room for joggers, it seems Disney is trying to promote a more healthy lifestyle. So, if children immitate what they see....they'd be immitating people exercising rather than smoking. And--just curious--as you don't like children sitting at bars....do you take your daughter to the smoking areas when you smoke?:confused3
 
AMEN... Someone finally understands...
The rest of them just can't understand what they are reading obviously.
Sorul... BTW you were on the 10th cruise...
Was I far off what I wrote as far as you saw? (I am not related, or personal friends with Sorul either...)

Food Critics also blog and give their 'non sugar coated' opinions on the meal. You seem to think this is some sort of unique gift bestowed on you alone.

You also seem to think the title "blogger "means that opinion should carry more weight than someone who is just a poster.

I hate to break it to you but ANYONE can have a blog. It doesn't mean that it will be followed or read....but still, it's not a great feat for someone to describe themselves as a "blogger".
 
OK..."Children under 12 must be accompanied by an adult." Reads the sign.
Parents don't supervise their children as they should because sometimes they are just as ignorant.

Thank You for your review.

I don't think I understand your comment about people with young children causing an "inconvenience" to other guest who want to swim with their older children.

My understanding is that as long as they are fully potty trained- they are permitted to use the pool (with exception of the adult only pool of course). Just because there is a splash area for them to use, it doesn't mean they aren't every just as bit as entitled to use the pools. That would be like saying that older kids or adults can't use them because they just should stick to the aqua-duck.
 
OK..."Children under 12 must be accompanied by an adult." Reads the sign.
Parents don't supervise their children as they should because sometimes they are just as ignorant.

I'm pretty sure that just means an adult needs to be in the pool area with children under 12 - not in the pool itself.

I rarely get in with my kids, but I keep an eye on them from the deck around the pool.
 
No... That is a bit twisted of a comment... bathing has no close relation.

What the heck does that mean??? For a blogger, you are VERY difficult to understand. Is your blogging done in a non-English language?

And you do know that MANY (actually most) cases of kidney disease have nothing to do with alcohol. So much for your PROVEN affects of alcohol.

And I think I've had about 10 drinks in my life, so no, I'm not trying to defend my alcoholic ways.

And it's MOOT point (not MUTE).
 
Food Critics also blog and give their 'non sugar coated' opinions on the meal. You seem to think this is some sort of unique gift bestowed on you alone.

You also seem to think the title "blogger "means that opinion should carry more weight than someone who is just a poster.

I hate to break it to you but ANYONE can have a blog. It doesn't mean that it will be followed or read....but still, it's not a great feat for someone to describe themselves as a "blogger".

Especially with someone hawking The Timeshare Store in their own DIS signature. Now let me bow down to the OP's obviously superior opinion because they were not paid to give it. :worship: :rolleyes:
 
Smoking is attributed to cancer, but nothing solid has ever been proven in all reality.

I don't think I could have come up with a better example of a "false opinion" if I tried.

As a new cruiser, I am always anxious to read veteran cruiser's TRs. That one sentence makes me disregard just about everything else he had to say. Sorry, I just can't take him seriously.
 
We are very big Disney people in my family. I wanted to take a trip on the Dream so that I could see for myself if half of the people that have reviewed the ship were either so blind, or if they were getting taken care of so well by Disney that they would never say anything bad. Keep reading to see my findings.
All in all we had an OK time in comparison to staying home. I probably would not do a cruise on the Disney Dream again unless the price was extremely discounted.
We started a 2 part cruise on April 10th, and concludes on April 17th. During this time we have made note, and will present you with our unbiased opinion/view of the Disney Dream.
I will be publishing a few segments with my review of the Disney Dream. Being that I am not affiliated with Disney, or Disney Cruise in any manor my review will be very candid in everything I write. I will not lie, or deceive anyone with a "Sugar-Coated" review. Read through a lot of the travel bloggers that have written about the Dream, and you will see that I speak the truth about untruthful bloggers. If you don't know what to believe at the end of this then cruise the Dream, and then cruise the Magic, or Wonder. I am sure you will agree.
This is all based on our views of things from the 1st of the 2 cruises. I will be further adding more information to a follow-up review after we return on the 17th.
This review is completely unbiased, and we were travelling on our expense. Hope this review is helpful for you in the future.
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Disney Dream - Arrival Review
Upon arrival at the port you turn your bags over, and are checked onto the property at the gate, and then sent on to the security area. After security you are sent into the actual terminal to process your papers, and get your keys. You are then given a group number that will eventually be called to board the ship. If you are a Platinum Castaway Club member you will get priority boarding. On back to back cruises you are required to get off the boat as normal, but you can board @ 1 hour later. (10:30am for our purposes.)
We got almost all of our luggage within 1 hour of boarding. One suitcase was completely damaged during transit to the room, and Disney decided they wanted to send the suitcase to their people to attempt repair. (We found this quite ridiculous because you can see the luggage was destroyed.) Two days later we were finally contacted, and told that they couldn't fix the luggage. The supervisor attempted to give us a smaller suitcase that we immediatelly refused. He came back with another, and we accepted it in exchange for the broken suitcase.
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Disney Dream - Swimming / Aquaduck Review
I have been on all of the currently existent Disney Cruise ships, and by far the Disney Dream seems to have a lot less swimming area than the others. The pools just seem much smaller than I remember the other ships having. Smaller children have their own area to play, and even a very shallow pool, but incredibly enough parents still seem to want to inconvenience the rest of the boat that would like to swim with their older children.
The Aquaduck was recently clocked by me at launching at @25-27 second intervals. The line to the Aquaduck can get very long, and at times the Aquaduck isn't worth trying to get on. On at least 2 occassions the Aquaduck was closed due to technical difficulties with the raft movement system that brings the rafts from the bottom back up to the top. On one occassion my daughter happened to notice a person going through the Aquaduck without a tube. Shortly thereafter we noticed crew members scrambling to address the issue.
I saw one parent get asked to take their very young child to the small childrens pool. This was correct. Then I further state that parents have no regard for signs stating "Under 12 years old must be adult supervised." I don't know how many times I saw the Family Whirlpool crowded with strictly children. It almost seemed like the staff enforces what they choose rather than everything.
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Disney Dream - Dining Review
I have noticed at breakfast that there are still no fresh made omellete station. This does exist on the other Disney ships. This is one touch that I think they should have added.
The next problem that we had occur was that we got up to get more food at Cabanas, and someone immediatelly cleaned off our table, and reissued it to another guest within about 4 minutes.
Next, Animators Palate is very nice, but the show is very distracting. Having people staring past you while they are trying to watch the screens can be very annoying.
Lastly, Our dining staff was very courteous. They were good enough to have us request them on the second part of this trip. No major complaints at this point.
The soda fountains on Deck 11 seem more watered down than I remember.
I have never gone to Palo, or Remy, but what amazes me is that Disney is usually infatuated with signage, and on the Dream I have never witnessed so many people getting lost getting to Remy, or Polo due to the lack of signage to get there.
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Disney Dream - Stateroom Review
The staterooms are fairly similar to the other Disney ships. The doors now open via waving your keycard in front of a sensor. Sometimes this does not work correctly. What I did not realize is that when the security lock is turned from inside the room that only one person on the ship can open the door, and it took @1 - 1 1/2 hours to get into our room because of a lack of understanding on the part of the guest services personell that we spoke to on the phone.
Disney has gotten very energy saving with this ship. When you enter your room you insert your keycard into a slot in order to keep the room lights on. Once you pull the keycard out the lights in the room go out shortly thereafter. This is very efficient.
Wavephones were great additions. There is one small issue that I find... There is no ringers, so if you aren't litterally watching the phone, or keeping it in your pocket then you will miss many calls. I guess Disney decided that they couldn't make money unless people lost, or broke the Wavephones. Bring your own 2 way radios if you don't want to take the risk of spending $250.
Drawer space is "EXTREMELY" limited. There are 3 small draws in the desk, and 2 very small draws next to the bed. (1 on each side.) There is 3 closet hanging areas that can be used. The last storage place in the room is the storage chest/table that sits in front of the couchbed that is in some rooms.
TV service is very slim for the most part. For most of the cruise there were only a few channels available in the staterooms.
Our room hostess was very nice, and very prompt about his work whenever he came by.
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Disney Dream - General Ship Review
While I am all for Disney trying to keep kids away from smoking I think Disney should honestly not be so shifty in their ways. I also firmly believe that if I had a choice of what influence I wanted my daughter to see then I would say SMOKING. Alcohol is a proven killer due to Kidney Diseases, Drunk Driving, and many other "Documented" issues. Smoking is still not documented as well as alcohol so keep this in mind.
Smoking sections are not like they used to be. You are able to smoke on the one side of Deck 4 from 6pm till 6am because the joggers were complaining too much. You are also able to smoke on one side of the Waves Bar. You are still able to smoke on your verandah, but that is even a fine gray line as far as I can see it. The room next door may be against this, and as such will complain, and cause issues.
Another thing that I find extremely amazing is that only due to being in International waters children can freely grab a seat at a bar by their parents, or whomever they are with. In the U.S. this would be seriously illegal. By Disney's standards they should not allow children to seat at, or in the vicinity of the bars/bar areas. And parents... You should really think about what your alcohol issues do to your kids. Would you take your kids to a bar in the U.S.? I think not because I am sure DYFS, or some other entity would be involved if you did. On top of that the establishment wouldn't allow it. Seriously... Disney won't let kids sit at bars in Disney World.
My wife and I personally watched a broken wine glass sit on the side of one of the bars as multiple workers passed it by. I believe it took at least an hour before it was taken away. This was a safety issue waiting for a little child to come by.
Elevators seem to take quite some time. If you only need to move one or two floors, then I suggest walking stairs.
At the Bahamas I can understand taking identification with you when leaving the ship. What i don't understand is that when you initially check in at the port your photo is taken, and attached to the computer system so that they can see your photo at any point. When you get off at Castaway Cay you are told to bring your id, and keycard. Why is this? Is my photo going to change that much while on your island? Not very brilliant.
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Disney Dream - Pirates Night Review
During the Pirates on Deck party they don't have the fireworks immediatelly following the deck show. On the Dream the fireworks were started at 10:30pm.
The 11th, and 12th decks get very packed during the nighttime Pirates fireworks show. To see the complete fireworks show I suggest getting there in advance, and get a good spot @ mid ship. (Going front to back, not port to starboard.)
On the Magic, and Wonder they had a huge spread of food out, but because of how they scheduled the show, and the fireworks at different times we were not able to partake in the deck food.
Many stairwells, and areas are closed due to fireworks, and other show related closures.
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Disney Dream - Conclusion Review
In general the ship is very nice to look at, and well maintaned. There just seems to be quite a few bugs in their system. We were initially very pleased with what we read, and saw on Youtube, but to our "Amazement" none of the reviews we saw seem very truthful.
I have seen quite a few ship employees complaining about some of the things that they are up against. In some respects I can almost see some of the displeasure in the employees based on how they act.
If you were looking to get on the Disney Dream because of all the hype like we fell for, then don't waste your time, or money. Stick with the Magic, or the Wonder. The ship is quite bigger, but bigger is not always better. We will now think much harder when we want to go on a Disney Cruise. I like the last two ships we have been on, but the Dream isn't all that.
Disney has recently announced many new cruises that are taking place. We are already looking into one, or two of them because of the newly announced port of departure.
I will go back to my roots, and sail the Wonder, or the Magic whenever possible. At least those ships weren't presented as cutting edge, and ending up being a big disappointment to us. Being this cruise was booked with DVC I have no way of receiving any customer service for the level of pleasure that we expected, but did not receive.
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I will be posting another wrap-up review of the things we found on the 3 night.

After reading about your experience on the Dream, I only have two things to say

1. Wow

2. Thank goodness my experience on the Dream was completely different.
 
No... That is a bit twisted of a comment... bathing has no close relation.
Drunk driving, Alcohol poisoning, Kidney disease, and many other "PROVEN" medical issues with alcohol are why I don't want my child subject to alcohol. I know that in all reality there are people out there that have diseases (God bless you, and hope you are well.) But... There are others out there that point the blame finger in multiple directions, and that's a fact. The exhaust on your car can kill quicker than a drink, or a cigarette. This is a mute point obviously. Most parents that are alcoholics feel it is ok to "Influence" their innocent children. We don't smoke in the house, or around our child. There are so many things that are killing everyone these days that everyone needs to realize that it is our lives. I don't criticize alcoholics. I do speak my peace when companies take the money side of things over anything else. How about letting the alcoholics drink in a corner of the boat. Segregate them and we can talk.

I think you're being very judgemental. I enjoy a drink or 2 daily on my cruises...and I am far from being anything close to an alcoholic. Segregating someone for having a drink that does no one else harm is being drastic. I have many friends and family who smoke, and have no problem if that's what they choose to do to themselves. However, they have the decency to not do it around others who don't smoke. In that respect, I'm glad Disney has designated smoking areas.
 
Let's hope she doesn't have the nerve to pick up a glass of champagne on her wedding day. :rolleyes1

IMO, the OP has taken a review of the ship and turned it into a platform for less drinking/more smoking. Maybe he would have had a better time if he could have filled his lungs with smoke more often on the cruise?

Personally, if I'm sitting 10 feet away from someone enjoying a beverage, it doesn't affect the quality of my cruise. If someone is smoking 10 feet away from me, it causes my eyes to water and nose get stuffy....same with my children.

I'm curious if perhaps the OP is a doctor? He seems to know a lot more than the general public about the effects of alcohol and smoking. :confused3

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What the heck does that mean??? For a blogger, you are VERY difficult to understand. Is your blogging done in a non-English language?

And you do know that MANY (actually most) cases of kidney disease have nothing to do with alcohol. So much for your PROVEN affects of alcohol.

And I think I've had about 10 drinks in my life, so no, I'm not trying to defend my alcoholic ways.

And it's MOOT point (not MUTE).

I think they meant liver disease but rather than correcting them it is more fun to just watch someone dig their own hole by looking more and more misinformed. ;)
 
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