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What? They haven't started yet? Damn... I wonder if Cameron is a little over-confident regarding the ''guaranteed'' success of the sequel.
He's been writing the script. He's changed the script numerous times.
 

He's been writing the script. He's changed the script numerous times.

Actually he's not writing the scripts. He has three different writers writing each of the three sequels. He is involved heavily in story, but I am not sure he's going to have a writing credit.

One has to wonder how this is all going to turn out. While the movie was a massive hit, it's kind of hard to find someone that actually likes it. Don't get me wrong, I am excited for Pandora in DAK, and I love James Cameron, but I am not fully convinced on this one.
 
Actually he's not writing the scripts. He has three different writers writing each of the three sequels. He is involved heavily in story, but I am not sure he's going to have a writing credit.

One has to wonder how this is all going to turn out. While the movie was a massive hit, it's kind of hard to find someone that actually likes it. Don't get me wrong, I am excited for Pandora in DAK, and I love James Cameron, but I am not fully convinced on this one.

There are plenty of people who like _Avatar,_ they're just not passionate about it the way the people who hated it are. Hardly uncommon. Now whether the concept extends to three more movies, I'm not sure. But on the other hand Cameron's track record shouldn't be dismissed. If the scripts are decent I think it will do fine, though any scifi that comes out after Star Wars is probably going to be seen as a "failure" from a box office perspective.

I've actually never seen it so I have no horse in the race and besides people who get so upset about movies that they literally will them to fail make me laugh anyway.
 
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Actually he's not writing the scripts. He has three different writers writing each of the three sequels. He is involved heavily in story, but I am not sure he's going to have a writing credit.

One has to wonder how this is all going to turn out. While the movie was a massive hit, it's kind of hard to find someone that actually likes it. Don't get me wrong, I am excited for Pandora in DAK, and I love James Cameron, but I am not fully convinced on this one.
Well I know he has at least turned down the script forcing a rewrite. I agree though that I'm not convinced either.
 
There are plenty of people who like _Avatar,_ they're just not passionate about it the way the people who hated it are. Hardly uncommon. Now whether the concept extends to three more movies, I'm not sure. But on the other hand Cameron's track record shouldn't be dismissed. If the scripts are decent I think it will do fine, though any scifi that comes out after Star Wars is probably going to be seen as a "failure" from a box office perspective.

I've actually never seen it so I have no horse in the race and besides people who get so upset about movies that they literally will them to fail make me laugh anyway.
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never understood why people take this stuff so personally
 
Well, if the second script gets the same treatment as the first one did, may the Pandora spirits be in Cameron's favor. The film is heavily criticized for its resemblance to both Disney's Pocahontas and Atlantis. Perhaps a little bit too much. It'll be a visual delight, though.
 
Well, if the second script gets the same treatment as the first one did, may the Pandora spirits be in Cameron's favor. The film is heavily criticized for its resemblance to both Disney's Pocahontas and Atlantis. Perhaps a little bit too much. It'll be a visual delight, though.

The Pocahontas thing is just typical internet snark. It's not like the story was original for Pocahontas either. Simplify a story enough and you can match it up with anything.

Young peasant is befriended by mysterious wizard and given a magic sword... Sound familiar?
 
The Pocahontas thing is just typical internet snark. It's not like the story was original for Pocahontas either. Simplify a story enough and you can match it up with anything.

Young peasant is befriended by mysterious wizard and given a magic sword... Sound familiar?
or evil person has ultimate weapon and plans to destroy world
 
The Pocahontas thing is just typical internet snark. It's not like the story was original for Pocahontas either. Simplify a story enough and you can match it up with anything.

Young peasant is befriended by mysterious wizard and given a magic sword... Sound familiar?

There are quite a lot of similarities beyond the regular character archetypes and story arcs. As you say, Avatar could perfectly be based on the actual historical Pocahontas and be perfectly fine, but if you combine that with Atlantis: The Lost Empire, you then have the final Avatar film. Avatar's most flawed element is its story, in my opinion. Regardless of its similarities to other stories, in my opinion it shows lack of creative input in the story department. I wouldn't be harsh towards it if it wasn't because Avatar is the most successful film of all time and they spent 10 years working on it.

I still recognize its achievements in the visual department, though.


I'm actually happy with this. These shorts are really well crafted. It's not brand new footage, but I appreciate them more than Captain EO at this point.
 
Well, if the second script gets the same treatment as the first one did, may the Pandora spirits be in Cameron's favor. The film is heavily criticized for its resemblance to both Disney's Pocahontas and Atlantis. Perhaps a little bit too much. It'll be a visual delight, though.

It's funny - while I get those - I always thought it much more derivative of Dances With Wolves. Of course every movie is a combination of ideas from other movies pretty much.
 
It's funny - while I get those - I always thought it much more derivative of Dances With Wolves. Of course every movie is a combination of ideas from other movies pretty much.

That's true, I remember that comparison as well. It's fine, I guess. As you guys say, you can only come up with a number of combinations of story plots and characters. Just saying I would've expected more from the highest grossing film of all time.
 
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