News Round Up 2016

[Iowamomof4]

Most definitely Muppets. For once Disney is moving fast on a project.

My thoughts exactly!

 

[Indybill]

NEWS

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/0...s-it-purged-a-favorite-son.html?referer=&_r=0

 

[rteetz]

NEWS

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/0...s-it-purged-a-favorite-son.html?referer=&_r=0

I put that in the Staggs thread

 

[DisMommyTX]

Rumor

The new Star Wars fireworks show starts June 5th

Any word on if the current fireworks will be extended through May? Five weeks without fireworks would be disappointing, particularly in light of the ROL delay.

 

[rteetz]

Any word on if the current fireworks will be extended through May? Five weeks without fireworks would be disappointing, particularly in light of the ROL delay.

Rumor is they will continue until June 3rd. June 4th will have no fireworks and then the 5th will debut the new.

 

[Mouse of Mystery]

I love the Muppets, but whoooboy do I not want to see them in Liberty Square. It's a pretty small area and I just love the way it feels now. When I step into that land and see the tree, the bell, the architecture, and then the HM in the background it... just feels right. I think it can be done tastefully and still fit into the surrounding area okay -- it just worries me a bit.

Warner Brothers is working on their own Jungle book movie that is coming out in 2018

My reaction to this was similar to my reaction upon first seeing the Rogue One teaser. Will this not be a little confusing for the general public?

The two Jungle Book movies are sure to be linked in the minds of the casual moviegoer. And at the same time, Disney is introducing a brand new Star Wars movie series with a seemingly similar story to the current one. How many people are going to arrive at the theater expecting to see Leia, Rey, and R2-D2 (or insert your favorite character from the last movie)?

If anything, I would have gone out of my way to be sure these two movies feel distinct. They are introducing a new series and the public is not yet used to the idea of overlapping Star Wars movie storylines, and the underdog female lead seems similar to TFA upon first glance.

Now, who knows? Maybe things won't feel so murky once the blitz of media begins to arrive later this year. And I absolutely had the same thoughts about how many probably wouldn't have batted an eye had there been male leads in both movies. It's a product of the status quo to which we are accustomed. It's wrong, but you can just about bet that it will happen.

 

[Travis B]

Photo Update

Reign of kong update

http://www.orlandoparksnews.com/2016/04/reign-of-kong-update-testing-fire.html

I'm really curious to see if this is anything more than another screen-based attraction with a nice facade.

 

[mikepizzo]

My reaction to this was similar to my reaction upon first seeing the Rogue One teaser. Will this not be a little confusing for the general public?

"Twin Films" (which are two similar movies being released around the same time by different studios) is not something new. There are quite a few reasons for this. The screenplay getting shopped around to different studios, one studio hearing about another studios plans and trying to take a piece of the "market", a film that deals with something topical, or my personal favorite; industrial espionage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_films

 

[Eoghann]

"Twin Films" (which are two similar movies being released around the same time by different studios) is not something new. There are quite a few reasons for this. The screenplay getting shopped around to different studios, one studio hearing about another studios plans and trying to take a piece of the "market", a film that deals with something topical, or my personal favorite; industrial espionage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_films

Robin Hood/Robin Hood Prince of Theives, Bugs Life/Antz, Olympus Has Fallen/Whitehouse Down, Snow White and th Huntsman / Mirror Mirror

Just some of the more recent ones. Generally when this happens there's a clear box office winner between the two because the public isn't interested in seeing the same thing twice.

I don't see any comparison with Rogue One though. If we eliminated all action films featuring an underdog protagonist with a chip on their shoulder we'd have... none?

 

[CamilaGS]

Rumor is they will continue until June 3rd. June 4th will have no fireworks and then the 5th will debut the new.

Really? Those are great news! I thought they wouldn´t extend through May and then I would get no fireworks night in DHS... I hope the rumor is true!

 

[rteetz]

I'm really curious to see if this is anything more than another screen-based attraction with a nice facade.

From what I've heard yes it's more than screens.

 

[MommaBerd]

And if you saw two movies in a row with a male lead, would you have the same reaction?

It was definitely my husband's first reaction: back-to-back movies with similar looking and acting female leads? I had a similar reaction to Chris Pratt playing in Jurassic World after being in GotG. Really? You're a smart-mouthed, cocky hero in both movies? Same basic character, different movies? So, not exactly apples-to-apples, but I think it makes the point. If the new lead role's character wasn't so similar (seemingly) to Rey's character people wouldn't have the same reaction.

But then again, maybe it's on purpose. Maybe there's something to PP's theory that she's Rey's mom.

I, however, am not so quick to jump on the "you wouldn't think twice if it were a man" bandwagon.

 

[Eoghann]

It was definitely my husband's first reaction: back-to-back movies with similar looking and acting female leads? I had a similar reaction to Chris Pratt playing in Jurassic World after being in GotG. Really? You're a smart-mouthed, cocky hero in both movies? Same basic character, different movies? So, not exactly apples-to-apples, but I think it makes the point. If the new lead role's character wasn't so similar (seemingly) to Rey's character people wouldn't have the same reaction.

But then again, maybe it's on purpose. Maybe there's something to PP's theory that she's Rey's mom.

I, however, am not so quick to jump on the "you wouldn't think twice if it were a man" bandwagon.

And again I ask that someone point me to an action movie where we don't have a smart-mouthed cocky lead character with a chip on their shoulder? It's the archetype of the genre.

Yet I don't see widespread complaints about it when men play that character. So yes I think it's a clear double standard.

 

[sachilles]

My wild guess is that Rogue One accomplishes a few things. It will provides back story for the franchise. It also provides IP linking the new/young fanbase with the death star and the original three movies. Then your mythical phase 3 at DHS becomes the echo lake area, using the classic star wars IP to theme it, making star tours and the Jedi training area fit in quite nicely. LMA and streets of America area are free to be themed to whatever (star wars universe) world they want that gives and immersive environment similar to how Avatarland is being setup.
It also allows for the spin off to generate new characters and plot lines.

 

[eXo]

I, however, am not so quick to jump on the "you wouldn't think twice if it were a man" bandwagon.

Ya, that is just silly. People criticize movies all the time for being too similar to their predecessor. Heck, even though Rey was a female there was still grumbling about her similarities to Luke. Had Rey's character been male, there would have been headlines calling her a direct Luke ripoff.

The only reason gender is entering into the discussion is because there is a concerted effort by movie studios to inject females and minorities into lead roles. So now we have two things happening - movies directly ripping off prior characters AND throwing in convenient gender/ethnicity changes along the way. The latest Rocky (and Karate Kid a few years back) focused on a african-american actor. The latest Ghostbusters went all female. There is a difference between finding excellent women to play excellent roles, and just ham fisting Melissa McCarthy into every fat comedic role they can find and calling it a day.

 

[eXo]

And again I ask that someone point me to an action movie where we don't have a smart-mouthed cocky lead character with a chip on their shoulder? It's the archetype of the genre.

Yet I don't see widespread complaints about it when men play that character. So yes I think it's a clear double standard.

If Ghostbusters had been 4 guys, each clearly patterned after the original 4 archetypes, then yes - there would have been complaints. The complaint would have been, why not get the original actors (or at least the three surviving ones). Your trying to link the whole-sale replacement AND the fact they gender swapped into the same issue.

If they wanted to gender swap the cast, then that is totally fine - but they took SPECIFIC traits and character styles and copied them. This isn't as simple as "muscly guy with a chip on his shoulder". This is, nerdy outcast who does lots of crazy experiments, token black person with sassy lines "OH NOOOO THEY DIDN'T", comedic character Akroyd/McCarthy (but one relied on humor and the other relies on pratt falls, and the straight man/women. Comparing the total replacement of those 4 to "any generic action movie" is a total cop out and it undermines just how ridiculous the forced casting was. They should have written a movie that actually had 4 unique female actors, instead of writing a sequel that feels like they gender swapped at the last second just for the hell of it.

Yes, people do complain when an older movie gets remade and they just copy-cat a character. But you hear that PLUS a different type of complaint when they do that AND they swap gender for no apparent reason other than it is fashionable to do so currently.

 

[skier_pete]

The two Jungle Book movies are sure to be linked in the minds of the casual moviegoer. And at the same time, Disney is introducing a brand new Star Wars movie series with a seemingly similar story to the current one. How many people are going to arrive at the theater expecting to see Leia, Rey, and R2-D2 (or insert your favorite character from the last movie)?

Based on the fact that (a) none of those characters are in the trailers and (b) they will market the heck out of it as a separate story.

Were people confused watching Iron Man III why Captain America wasn't in it?

I had a similar reaction to Chris Pratt playing in Jurassic World after being in GotG. Really? You're a smart-mouthed, cocky hero in both movies? Same basic character, different movies?

So your saying this is the reason that Jurrasic World failed so spectacularly at the box office?

 

[Ursula's Apprentice]

How many people are going to arrive at the theater expecting to see Leia, Rey, and R2-D2 (or insert your favorite character from the last movie)?

I'll be completely honest, I thought we were going to see a continuation of TFA, so the Rogue One trailer confused me a bit. I've seen all the movies, but I'm not a Star Wars Fanatic by any means. So maybe that's why I didn't get it?

Don't get me wrong, it looks great, and I'm excited to see it, I guess I just assumed it would be a continuation like the rest were? That might be on me just not knowing, not that they haven't put it out there.

 

[MommaBerd]

NEWS

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/04/0...s-it-purged-a-favorite-son.html?referer=&_r=0

From the article:
Mr. Staggs’s contract provides for a six-month period as a consultant. He will not be present on June 16 for the gala opening of the Shanghai Disneyland Resort in China, his signature achievement during his tenure at Disney.

Regardless of how you feel about him, this is just sad to me...to not be there to celebrate all the hard work poured into a project? Tough pill to swallow.

 

[skier_pete]

From the article:
Mr. Staggs’s contract provides for a six-month period as a consultant. He will not be present on June 16 for the gala opening of the Shanghai Disneyland Resort in China, his signature achievement during his tenure at Disney.

Regardless of how you feel about him, this is just sad to me...to not be there to celebrate all the hard work poured into a project? Tough pill to swallow.

I don't know - kind of nice to know that large corporations not only treat their little employees badly, they sometimes treat there big employees badly. In other words, no matter how big you are, the corporation just doesn't care about you personally.