New Security Measures At The Parks

[Magpie]

I only have an issue with not allowing costumes at the halloween party. We don't have children and that is one of my favorite things to do! We would prob not really go to the halloween party anymore either. I am also curious what constitutes a costume as I have star wars print dresses and a cinderella and Elsa dress from hot topic I just bought specifically for our trips to disney. I am hoping they don't count as they just look like dresses.

Honestly, I can't imagine print dresses would count!

I'm pretty sure it's going to work something like this...

 

[andyman8]

In my opinion, I don't think anyone needs a gun or pocketknife at Disney World. I don't care if you're a good guy, a bad guy, a citizen, or a cop, you don't need a gun or a pocketknife at Disney. Leave it at home or at the very least in your room. I have certainly found myself in situations in my life where I don't feel especially safe or protected and some sort of defense might have been a good idea just in case, but that has NEVER happened at WDW, and I've been frequently each year since the 90s. If you're still don't feel comfortable for some reason without your gun or knife, go somewhere else but don't break the rules in the name of "safety." In reality, you're more likely to be jeopardizing safety than enhancing it. I mean the urgency of setting up these metal detectors may have come from the man who got caught with his gun at WDW last week. Bottom line is when a place says no guns, it means no guns and that applies to everyone. Just as when they say "keep your hands, arms, and legs inside the vehicle", these rules apply to everyone. No exceptions.

As to them stopping toy gun sales, that seems to be more of a safety thing rather than anti-violence thing. Unfortunately, it's necessary in today's world, and while the internet always seems to supply us with an abundance of "experts" on "security theater," I think we all can agree that heaven forbid something were to happen without these metal detectors, people would be up in arms about Disney having too relaxed security procedures. Personally, I'll take the slight inconvenience if it means making the parks even slightly safer.

 

[Joe Blasek]

Since Disney is now using metal detectors we will NOT be coming to the parks again next year. We go to Disney to escape the real world not be confronted by it. For $105 a person they can figure out how to do security without inconveniencing us at all. Everyone should stop going to the park until these idiotic "security" rules are reversed. My son loves his Buzz Lightyear ping pong ball gun we got there last year. Listen up Mickey - your new "security" plan needs to go! No metal detectors, allow costumes, and sell toy guns then we will be back!

 

[Joe Blasek]

In my opinion, I don't think anyone needs a gun or pocketknife at Disney World. I don't care if you're a good guy, a bad guy, a citizen, or a cop, you don't need a gun or a pocketknife at Disney. Leave it at home or at the very least in your room. I have certainly found myself in situations in my life where I don't feel especially safe or protected and some sort of defense might have been a good idea just in case, but that has NEVER happened at WDW, and I've been frequently each year since the 90s. If you're still don't feel comfortable for some reason without your gun or knife, go somewhere else but don't break the rules in the name of "safety." In reality, you're more likely to be jeopardizing safety than enhancing it. I mean the urgency of setting up these metal detectors may have come from the man who got caught with his gun at WDW last week. Bottom line is when a place says no guns, it means no guns and that applies to everyone. Just as when they say "keep your hands, arms, and legs inside the vehicle", these rules apply to everyone. No exceptions.

As to them stopping toy gun sales, that seems to be more of a safety thing rather than anti-violence thing. Unfortunately, it's necessary in today's world, and while the internet always seems to supply us with an abundance of "experts" on "security theater," I think we all can agree that heaven forbid something were to happen without these metal detectors, people would be up in arms about Disney having too relaxed security procedures. Personally, I'll take the slight inconvenience if it means making the parks even slightly safer.

Drink the KoolAide and believe what they tell you. Ya right.

 

[Magpie]

Drink the KoolAide and believe what they tell you. Ya right.

It hasn't been nearly long enough yet...

It always makes the hair on the back of my head stand up because there was nothing about it that was a suicide. By the 900 people that were members of that cult, they were killed, they were murdered, they were massacred. You can’t tell me that an infant or a two-year-old child that was injected with cyanide does so voluntarily. And that horrible phrase now that is part of our language “drinking the Kool-aid” is always one that sends me into orbit because I think people so misunderstand what took place there.

http://speier.house.gov/index.php?o...bers-the-jonestown-massacre&catid=2&Itemid=15

 

[sets14]

Apparently I live with blinders on. Spent the day at MK, was there at 8:15 am for rope drop and didn't even see the metal detectors. No one in the pre-rope drop crowd gathered at the entrance was talking about them so they weren't too obtrusive. Glad I let my son buy the two Star Wars guns he was wanting when he saw them or he would be a sad little kid. Didn't even notice the guns and bubble blasters were gone. We are doing MK again tomorrow so I will pay more attention.

 

[slickpoetry]

It hasn't been nearly long enough yet...



http://speier.house.gov/index.php?o...bers-the-jonestown-massacre&catid=2&Itemid=15

 

[Daisytiff]

I can't even fathom how wearing a costume is more important than safety. I'm sorry. Just because a terrorist attack hasn't happened at Disney does NOT mean it won't. It should definitely be considered a possible attack spot given the amount of people in it daily.

Yes, the security measures may have some loopholes, and can still be improved upon, but i for one think they are GREAT. Why can't a kid play with something other than a gun? Why are toy guns so necessary these days anyway?

Costumes can make it easier for terrorists to hide things, and also for surveillance cameras to spot certain people. Yes, bulky jackets can hide things too, but it's rare people wear bulky jackets to the park, it would make it easier to spot them. Regardless, eliminating costumes will help law enforcement and security IMO.

The metal detectors are great but I do think everyone should go through them. But at least some people are. Unfortunately the world we live in has become more violent and Disney felt the need to further ensure their guests' safety, and I thank and applaud them. The terrorists do not win with increased security, and they do not win because I can't wear a costume, they will win if they have a successful attack. Period.

 

[slickpoetry]

The terrorists do not win with increased security, and they do not win because I can't wear a costume, they will win if they have a successful attack. Period.

Indeed.

And if there was a successful attack against a Disney park, people would be up in arms saying Disney didn't enact ENOUGH safety measures. You can't win.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I'm wondering if they just threw the costume thing in there while they were at it because they wanted to stop costumes in general.

 

[kittyab]

Enjoy them in your hotel.

Nope, I plan on wearing them at the party

 

[OhhBother]

Here today. Interestingly enough, there are about a million Star Wars fans (adults and kids) in full costume walking around Disney Springs as they gear up for tonight's premiere and after-party. I did notice there are metal detectors that have gone up at the AMC theater. Same deal -- staffed by people in yellow special event shirts.

I'll be terribly disappointed if the costume ban holds for Halloween parties. That's the biggest part of the fun.

 

[siskaren]

New security measures are needed in today's society. I'm so glad they're putting a stop to adults "dressing up" as the characters. The rule was always under 14 only until adults took the Halloween party to a daily event.

This is news to me.

 

[Jennasis]

Looks like less crowds coming up in the park. Woohoo!

Yeah...I went there.

 

[famy27]

I can't even fathom how wearing a costume is more important than safety. I'm sorry. Just because a terrorist attack hasn't happened at Disney does NOT mean it won't. It should definitely be considered a possible attack spot given the amount of people in it daily.

Yes, the security measures may have some loopholes, and can still be improved upon, but i for one think they are GREAT. Why can't a kid play with something other than a gun? Why are toy guns so necessary these days anyway?

Costumes can make it easier for terrorists to hide things, and also for surveillance cameras to spot certain people. Yes, bulky jackets can hide things too, but it's rare people wear bulky jackets to the park, it would make it easier to spot them. Regardless, eliminating costumes will help law enforcement and security IMO.

The metal detectors are great but I do think everyone should go through them. But at least some people are. Unfortunately the world we live in has become more violent and Disney felt the need to further ensure their guests' safety, and I thank and applaud them. The terrorists do not win with increased security, and they do not win because I can't wear a costume, they will win if they have a successful attack. Period.

I guess I just can't wrap my head around the idea of terrorist wearing Haunted Mansion-themed intricate, attention-grabbing costumes but not bulky coats in cold weather. Or bulky sweatshirts on a crisp day. It seems that someone who wanted to blend in and be under the radar wouldn't wear elaborate Halloween costumes at WDW.

 

[MinnieSweetheart]

Wow, you don't give law enforcement enough credit. They can tell difference between a Pirates gun and a real one.

I'm sure Tamir Rice's mom thought the same thing.....

 

[TwoMisfits]

It's failure PR theater. Gun-free "safe" zones have always been an oxymoron. I don't carry, but as former military, I'm thankful for the tens of thousands who quietly do. They protect us and make us harder targets. Making it harder for them to quietly be the "deterrent" in the parks is short-sighted. The safest public places are ones where terrorists don't know who has the ability to stop them and have to assume all can. When seconds matter, security is always minutes away - that's a fact of life (since we can't pay the prohibitive costs of having them be seconds away).

 

[wendyt_ca]

Honestly, I can't imagine print dresses would count!

I'm pretty sure it's going to work something like this...

This is what I am thinking as well.

 

[mummabear]

This is the equivalent of the woman in rural Mississippi being afraid the terrorists are gonna get her and her kids... When her town would be so down the list of an acceptable target that the likelihood is nil.

I don't agree.
I think there has been a specific threat that has given enough credit that has lead to these measures, for people who feel that western culture needs to be taken down, want to incite terror and want a high body count I cant think of a better/more terrible place.

 

[Magpie]

I don't agree.
I think there has been a specific threat that has given enough credit that has lead to these measures, for people who feel that western culture needs to be taken down, want to incite terror and want a high body count I cant think of a better/more terrible place.

I posted elsewhere that I didn't think there had been a specific threat, but on further reflection, you're right, it's entirely possible there was. In any case, if there was, Disney will probably never tell us.