New Security Measures At The Parks

The information being published by many including The Orlando Sentinel is that Disney, at this time, is saying no more costumes for adults at MNSSHP. This could be deal breaker for us.

This could change a million times by September but for now they claim they are saying no more. Also some are trying to get clarification on RunDisney events.

Can you share that article by the Orlando Sentinel. The only article I read from them, said nothing about MNSSHP. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...-metal-detectors-security-20151217-story.html
 
Can you share that article by the Orlando Sentinel. The only article I read from them, said nothing about MNSSHP. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...-metal-detectors-security-20151217-story.html

Here is the link and a screenshot I took. It was also posted by Touring Plans that MK GR confirmed no costumes tonight at Christmas Party and another poster on here, a CM, went to her meeting this morning and was told plan now is no costumes at MNSSHP but they will re-evaluate as they get closer.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...-metal-detectors-security-20151217-story.html

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What is funny about all this is that some folks actually think metal detectors and private security guards are the answer to all our problems. Smoke and mirrors! Metal detectors are ancient technology my friends. Further, do you really think that a terrorist is going to wait in line to be screened? If a dedicated terrorist has their mind set on destruction all you can do is hope to minimize the damage. Instead of metal detectors and wannabe cops, Disney should hire more actual police officers. How about restricting all bags larger than a small purse? How about eliminating strollers being brought into the parks?

From reading the articles it sounds like these screenings are random? How exactly are they picking who gets the metal detector treatment? Sounds like the start of a discrimination lawsuit to me. It has to be everyone or no one.

I have a graduate degree in emergency management. I constantly look at places and situations that are vulnerable to attacks. A determined attacker could cause mass casualties on Disney property and not even come close to a gate.
 
I must be in the minority because I think this is a great idea. I'd rather spend an extra minute or two and walk through the detector than to think that something may happen when we're at one of the parks.

It's the world we live in today - I get to experience this first-hand tomorrow when we arrive for our vacation. I was involved with an active shooter scare on Tuesday night at my college campus during finals. So really - bring this one. Give me peace of mind because I'm still a bit shaken after that craziness.
So sorry you had to experience that. I would like everyone to go through a metal detector at WDW. Paranoid no, realistic, yes.
 

I'm in agreement on no toy guns or costumes. I live in Lee County,FL. We had Zombiecon were toy guns and costumes were allowed. This year a nut job with a real gun showed up and started firing his gun. He wounded 8 and killed a 20 yr old college student. The police are having a hard time finding him thru the security cameras because there were several with "guns"....it's hard to tell which are real and fake in the pictures.
 
It's not just WDW. Apparently Universal and SeaWorld also chose today to beef up their security:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi...-metal-detectors-security-20151217-story.html

Walt Disney World placed walk-through metal detectors in front of all four of its theme parks. Universal Orlando began using wand-style metal detectors in an area leading into its parks and nightlife district. SeaWorld Orlando also began using wand-style detectors.

The safety measures extend outside Orlando. Disneyland and Universal Studios in Hollywood, Calif., are also using the devices.

The Sentinel interviewed a professor of hospitality who claims it's a just a coordinated "destination statement" by all the parks, assuring travellers that they are providing the safest environment possible. I'm curious, though, if anyone saw them doing this yesterday:

On Wednesday night, police dogs checked the outside of monorail trains before the doors closed and left the Transportation and Ticket Center.

That seems like a wee bit more than a "statement". ;)
 
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I hate the argument of "anything can happen, anywhere at anytime so why bother to do all of this extra screening". Like it or not, a lot of security precautions that many people complain about every day have probably saved lives in the last 15 years. It's impossible to quantify but even if it saved one, isn't that enough?

These are the same people that will be the first to cry incompetence and lack of preparedness if, heaven forbid, something were to happen.
 
Also, metal detectors are not 100% reliable. Pat downs may not catch 100% of everything. But, they are detourants. A locked door won't stop someone from breaking into your house either but it is more of a detourant to a criminal than an unlocked door. If given the choice, which house do you think a criminal would try to break in to? A well lit house with the doors locked or a dark house with the doors unlocked?
 
OMG. This is what lead to internment camps on US soil in WWII, let alone why my grandfathers refused to talk about their service abroad during that time. They liberated death camps across Europe.
Ridiculous...it's not even close. If it is determined that hiding ones face is not in the best interest of public safety, it should not be allowed. Period.
 
Just out of curiosity, where is the one at IG located? I've been reading that most of them are placed between bag check and the tapstiles, but there is very little space at IG to do that. Did they move bag check out toward the ticket booths and put it where bag check used to be? Or did they place it to the side where they usually have the unused bag check tables? Just trying to visualize it in my head.

I don't really have a problem with metal detectors, but I hope the area where we place our belongings is secure because I would have an issue with my wallet and iPhone walking off . . .
Just to the left of the bag check area. My husband did not have a bag. He was selected to go through metal detector.
 
Honestly, I think the number of niqab wearing women visiting Disney is SO minuscule, this really is a red herring and not worth getting worked up about.

Here in Canada we had to endure months of debate over whether niqab wearers should be forced to unveil in order to take the citizenship oath. How many women wanted to wear their niqab in a citizenship ceremony? Exactly two. And for those two women our previous government implemented a ban. Which then went to the Supreme court, and was ultimately struck down, wasting tons of taxpayer monies and getting everyone all stirred up about "those people".

It's divisive and not worthy of us.

If, by some chance, a single niqab wearing woman visits with her family, I am quite sure Disney security is capable of making whatever determination they need to make, regarding any possible threat she might pose to the rest of us. If they decide she's allowed to enter the park, that's between her and them. It's none of my business. She deserves just as much of my courtesy and kindness as any other park guest.

Edit: As it happens, on the bus in our hometown, our way to the airport to fly to Disney this past November, my husband and I chatted with a lovely - and very friendly - young lady wearing a niqab. She was a foreign student from Saudi Arabia and happened to be studying at the same university as our daughter. It was interesting - after a few minutes of talk, I realized that I could see more expression and emotion and individuality in her eyes, than I could ever see in a person wearing sunglasses, even if the rest of their face was uncovered.

(My son calls them "authority glasses" when cops wear them. ;))
 
I am waiting for them to not allowed outside food and only small bags in the parks (no more back packs).

Seriously though by doing away some fun things (adults wearing costumes at the parties), the terrorist wins.

I have no issue with anyone wearing whatever their religion dictates. WDW cannot ban them and if they did, I am not sure I would want to visit the parks. If they are concerned about what is under their attire, that is what detectors are for. ISIS wants the west to isolate Muslims so the can recruit more followers.

I have a friend who is Muslim and she stopped wearing her hijab because was afraid for her own safety. That is sad and is not right.
 
Fear, fear and more fear. The terrorists have truly won already.
I agree one hundred percent. And as far as the 'guns' being sold at WDW, the ones they had in Frontier land used to be toy models of muzzle loaders. How in the name of all the gods could anyone mistake that for a real gun? Sheeiss!! Stop being afraid of shadows!
 
I am rethinking my summer trip...I am very worried about transportation to and from the parks..glad they are worried about the parks once you get in...how about how you get there
 
The one or two flimsy metal detectors do absolutely nothing to satisfy any of my concerns, especially if there was a specific threat issued, which is likely based on the multi-park coordination. It would possibly be different if everyone was forced to walk through a detector. But I've seen how these "random" screenings work at airports and such. Little old ladies and moms with disabled children are the ones pulled out of line, while able-bodied middle eastern men are allowed a free pass due to fears of claims of racial profiling and discrimination.

This does zero to make me feel safer, and I'd rather they not bother at all if they are going to do it this way.
 
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