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[Pluto 2]

excellent post. i agree with you 100 percent that they need to crack down.

 

[sz9144]

I would not like to see renting done away with- we bought into dvc with the intention of traveling ourselves- 4 mos after buying in, we had all our trips reserved, and hubby loses job- out of work for 4 mos, then has to accept contract/temp work- low pay, no benefits and no vacation time- so bye bye vacations. so we rented out the points since we can not use them for any time in the near future.

 

[icydog]

Here is a typical add on E-bay. This I think is a joke and I can't beleive Disney looks the other way. They obviously condone renting as a form of income or else this would never be allowed. I guess if these are your home resorts and you can't get a reservation, you can blame this guy. You might as well bank into next year and rent from them. It sickens me.


I have additional days and
I also have other dates available
in July, Aug, Sept, Oct, Nov & Dec. including;

a Studio 8/10 -10/13 at the BC,
a Studio 8/13-10/18 at the BC,
a Studio 9/29-10/3 at the BC,
2 Studios 10/7-10/14 at the BW,
a Studio 10/18-10/24 at the BC,
a Studio 10/20 or 10/22 - 10/27 BC,
a Studio 10/28 or 10/29 - 11/3 or 4 or 5 at the BC,
2 Preferred View Studios 10/28 or 10/29 - 11/3 or 4 at the BW,
a 2-BR 10/28 or 10/29 - 11/3 or 4 or 5 at OKW,
a Studio 10/30-11/3 at the BC with 10/29 wait-listed,
a Studio 11/17 or 18 or 19 -11/24 or 25 at the BC,
a Boardwalk View Studio 11/19-11/23 at the BW,
a Studio Christmas Week 12/24-12/29 & 12/29-12/31 at the BW & BC,
a 2-BR Christmas Week 12/24-12/29 at the BW!

I may have;
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Check out my other auctions or email me if you don't
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Member Profile: disdvcer

NO wonder there is a sell out at the BCV and BWV after the 11 month window. Did you notice that all the holidays are covered? It's his choice to rent his points out, but perhaps it would behoove him to make reservations when a a customer of his needs them like the rest of us folks, and not tie the points up in case there might be a buyer!

 

[icydog]

I would not like to see renting done away with- we bought into dvc with the intention of traveling ourselves- 4 mos after buying in, we had all our trips reserved, and hubby loses job- out of work for 4 mos, then has to accept contract/temp work- low pay, no benefits and no vacation time- so bye bye vacations. so we rented out the points since we can not use them for any time in the near future.

I am very sorry this happened to you and your family. I hope the future will be much brighter. I honestly hope that your husband finds a good job and that you can start planning your next Disney World Vacation.

 

[Bill K]

Yes I also agree.

 

[OneMoreTry]

....Sadly, innocent members are being burdened with restrictions and intimidated by threats. ....

I'm an innocent member. (Aren't we all?)

I don't feel burdened with restrictions and intimidated by threats.

I can rent out my points if I want. Rent others' points for myself. Transfer points out or in. I wasn't deceived in any way by DVC.

I might feel burdened if I had to juggle 4 contracts at different resorts. That's why I don't have 4 contracts at different resorts. Hassles increase exponentially as resorts are added.

I realize that some ARE restricted, but want to point out not ALL are. In fact I weigh in with those that are glad the established rules I agreed to abide by are being enforced for others.

 

[OneMoreTry]

... In fact, I was booking in January 2005 for a weekend in November 2005 and could not get anything other than at Saratoga Springs. ....

This could either mean:

You called in January to reserve accomodations for November. BUT If you own at BWV that would be impossible and therefore not believable.

OR

You called in November to reserve a room for January. In that case you only called 2 months in advance and thus this doesn't support your case for not being able to book at the 7 month window.

I support your cause. Just be accurate on your facts, please.

 

[dcal]

Bravo! To the point!

One of the best features, as a DVC member, is the opportunity to sample or stay at any and all of the resorts! The old catch phrase "buy where you want to stay" may have less meaning in the near future, AND LET'S HOPE SO!

PS: Yes I plan to stay at all the resorts. There all great!

The new rule rules!!!!!

 

[bpmorley]

The old catch phrase "buy where you want to stay" may have less meaning in the near future, AND LET'S HOPE SO!

I don't get it. Members still have the 11 month window at their home resorts.

 

[joepoe]

I don't have a comment, I felt this just had to be repeated.

I have a comment. I think people are getting all bent out of shape about a problem that is not that big. It costs a BOATLOAD of points to book at peak times. And then to offer just Sun thurs nights is not attractive to a lot of vacationers. I cant see "commercial renters" making very much money, if any on renting their Disney points.

You see these big bids on EBay. How do you know the buyer is actually paying up? Then EBay takes its cut. Then you have to worry the buyer is not a deadbeat. I am sorry. We all have trouble getting more than 7 or 8 bucks a point when renting and then we turn around and believe people are making big bucks. I just do not buy it. Someone show me the numbers. If there are 5,000 or 10,000 members trying for Christmas and only 2,000 can stay, a lot of people are going to be disappointed, THAT is a fact.

 

[Dean]

One of the best features, as a DVC member, is the opportunity to sample or stay at any and all of the resorts! The old catch phrase "buy where you want to stay" may have less meaning in the near future, AND LET'S HOPE SO!

PS: Yes I plan to stay at all the resorts. There all great!

The new rule rules!!!!!

Doubtful. Any shift in availability in favor of those at other resorts would be negative for members who own and plan to stay at that resort. Something I find unlikely to happen and actually quite the contrary as owners at certain resorts learn they really need to plan and reserve in advance. DVC could not take the home resort advantage away the most they could do would be to make it 11/10, which I don't see happening.

 

[Tom and Jen]

ok, questions... and sorry if it has been asked and answered, my head is spinning with all these multi paged threads........

A transfer is from one owner to another correct? Not banking or borrowing.

They are also not limiting the number of reservations you can make or cancel through the year. That is a good thing, not that I approve of abuse, but with individual families, plans can change.

Now I have had situations where I might have needed a couple of points to finish a reservation. I am fortunate enough to have a few close friends, of whom we 'turned on' the DVC idea to, offer points to us if needed. Are we now unable to pass a couple points to each other if needed?

I am still trying to figure out why, at 5 months out, am I unable to book a room at a home resort on points but can go online and book 3 of the exact rooms I am looking for in cash..... non (DVC) discounted.

...and DVC is considering going to an online based reservation system.....talk about abuse and frustration!

T.

 

[dianeschlicht]

I am still trying to figure out why, at 5 months out, am I unable to book a room at a home resort on points but can go online and book 3 of the exact rooms I am looking for in cash..... non (DVC) discounted.

That's an easy one to tell you about, but sometimes a difficult one to understand. The two inventories are seperate. Point inventory is a finite number for each home resort. About 4% of that inventory is held back by Disney for rentals through CRO or for breakage/maintenance. That way, if a unit comes out for maintenance, there is still a unit left over to fill it's place.

Now the inventory that is NOT point based and owned by Disney is one reason you can find CRO rentals when you can not find point stays available, but a bigger reason is when folks have traded out DVC points to use in the Disney Collection (either hotels or cruise), those "points" now become reservation status rooms that are only available to CRO. They have been given to CRO's inventory because some DVC member has given them up to use points at a non/DVC resort or cruise. Those rooms are still available to rent through CRO, but are no longer DVC based inventory, so not available for point usage or member discounts.

 

[LisaS]

A transfer is from one owner to another correct? Not banking or borrowing.

Correct.

Now I have had situations where I might have needed a couple of points to finish a reservation. I am fortunate enough to have a few close friends, of whom we 'turned on' the DVC idea to, offer points to us if needed. Are we now unable to pass a couple points to each other if needed?

You get one transfer per Use Year so you can transfer points in OR out (not both) in each Use Year. So, yes, you can still transfer points to another member once per Use Year or receive points from another member once per Use Year.

 

[joepoe]

So it would seem.

Sadly, innocent members are being burdened with restrictions and intimidated by threats. However, for the actual "violators" Disney claims are responsible for such changes, it's still business as usual.

The apologists on here need to wake up and smell the Starbucks.

Out of all those listings, 3 holiday listings. How many ebay posters have such accomodations? 1,000? 1% of total members? Sorry, it does not faze me.