NEW Rejected Offers Thread

If you look at the average increase over the life Aulani has not increased more than other resorts. So we don’t know for sure that SUB will end up being more than all others. This was an outlier year for dues to date. BLT has increased % much more than Aulani has.
I get nervous that taxes in Hawaii are likely to go up quicker than in Florida and then all of a sudden the dues start to look bad. The state definitely looks towards all aspects of tourism to finance itself.
 

My opinion/experience only...

Someone would need to be very desperate and/or ill-informed to accept those CCV offers, especially since these are not stripped contracts. Average selling range is probably 133ish to 145ish. That's the range, certainly I'm sure there are outliers. But probably not below $130, $125 would be a steal IMO.

As a seller, I tell my broker not to waste time on lowball offers. I always give them a cutoff when to engage on my behalf. As a buyer, I'm always frustrated when they don't respond to my offer 8-)
 
Just my opinion FWIW (what you paid for it :-)) but those are some pretty low offers on CCV. I offered $120/point on a 200 point contract a few months ago, and I fully expected when I made it to be posting here on the rejected offers thread, but instead, ended up on the ROFR thread. That said, you never know when someone will accept an incredibly low offer, so if you've got the time, you can always keep going for it.
Apparently they are, however I use the ROFR pricing tool from one of the members here that accounts for all the variables e.g. use year, points remaining, closing costs, etc. and comes up with a "normalized" value then compares accepted offers from the previous 90 days with a minimum of 35 data points. I target a little below the "suggested" price leaving some room for negotiating (<$5). Remember too that the 2 rejected offers were stripped and they had tapped into 2026 points.
I spot check it with accepted offers that I cull from this board and it's not far off. I'm in no hurry and this would be my third contract that will initially cover a shortage for a large family trip in 2027. I may give BWV a closer look but I already have 165 points there that I paid a lot less than what they are going for now so it's a tough pill to swallow when I expected the prices for the 2042 resorts to be more stable for a few more years. I'm also keeping LSL open for more direct points as I have used RIV and CFW and expect to again.
 
Apparently they are, however I use the ROFR pricing tool from one of the members here that accounts for all the variables e.g. use year, points remaining, closing costs, etc. and comes up with a "normalized" value then compares accepted offers from the previous 90 days with a minimum of 35 data points. I target a little below the "suggested" price leaving some room for negotiating (<$5). Remember too that the 2 rejected offers were stripped and they had tapped into 2026 points.
I spot check it with accepted offers that I cull from this board and it's not far off. I'm in no hurry and this would be my third contract that will initially cover a shortage for a large family trip in 2027. I may give BWV a closer look but I already have 165 points there that I paid a lot less than what they are going for now so it's a tough pill to swallow when I expected the prices for the 2042 resorts to be more stable for a few more years. I'm also keeping LSL open for more direct points as I have used RIV and CFW and expect to again.
Yeah, I’m guessing you mean the tool on dvcrofr.com - it is a great tool. Don’t disagree with those thoughts at all. You never know when you’ll find someone at least willing to engage on those offers and there have been some CCV that have gone for under $120, as I recall. I do think an informed CCV seller might have a little more resistance to low offers given the current round of dues increases, but it is also the lesser informed sellers most likely to engage in a low offer too. Good luck!
 
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My opinion/experience only...

Someone would need to be very desperate and/or ill-informed to accept those CCV offers, especially since these are not stripped contracts. Average selling range is probably 133ish to 145ish. That's the range, certainly I'm sure there are outliers. But probably not below $130, $125 would be a steal IMO.

As a seller, I tell my broker not to waste time on lowball offers. I always give them a cutoff when to engage on my behalf. As a buyer, I'm always frustrated when they don't respond to my offer 8-)
This is a screen shot of recent contracts at CCV. There may be some other variables that I'm unaware but apparently there are plenty below $125.
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Yeah, I’m guessing you mean the tool on dvcrofr.com - it is a great tool. Don’t disagree with those thoughts at all. You never know when you’ll find someone at least willing to engage on those offers and there have been some CCV that have gone for under $120, as I recall. I do think an informed CCV seller might have a little more resistance to low offers given the current round of dues increases, but an it is also the lesser informed sellers most likely to engage in a low offer too. Good luck!
Agreed, I'm also thinking that CCV will compare even more favorably once LSL opens up especially if restricted. As that gets closer, I'll have to get more aggressive if nothing takes before then.
I was awaiting a closing for a CCV contract about 4 years ago that went for ~$150 but it fell through as the seller neglected to tell the Broker that they had a tax lien and the closing would be delayed beyond the terms so I walked away.
 
This is a screen shot of recent contracts at CCV. There may be some other variables that I'm unaware but apparently there are plenty below $125.
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I would expect the lower end to be larger contracts (250+) and/or those that are stripped, but I don't have any data to provide to backup my theory.

My thoughts are based on the range for the contracts you bid on 175-200. And I should also make it clear of my buyer mentality, I am a firm believer that it only takes 1 person to accept. My seller hat doesn't have time for someone hoping that I'm that desperate. :crazy:
 
Resort: HH
Contract Size: 50
Asking: $73
Rejected Offer: $60
Resale broker called me back and said seller remains firm on $73.
 
They better hope they find a buyer before the $500 fee kicks in 1/1 and effectively raises the price about 15% higher.
I was surprised the seller didn’t at least counter - the contract has been listed for quite a long time…but in truth $60 was as high as I will go anyway.
 










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