NEW Rejected Offers Thread

If you look at the average increase over the life Aulani has not increased more than other resorts. So we don’t know for sure that SUB will end up being more than all others. This was an outlier year for dues to date. BLT has increased % much more than Aulani has.
I get nervous that taxes in Hawaii are likely to go up quicker than in Florida and then all of a sudden the dues start to look bad. The state definitely looks towards all aspects of tourism to finance itself.
 
I get nervous that taxes in Hawaii are likely to go up quicker than in Florida and then all of a sudden the dues start to look bad. The state definitely looks towards all aspects of tourism to finance itself.
It’s possible. Anything is possible.
 

My opinion/experience only...

Someone would need to be very desperate and/or ill-informed to accept those CCV offers, especially since these are not stripped contracts. Average selling range is probably 133ish to 145ish. That's the range, certainly I'm sure there are outliers. But probably not below $130, $125 would be a steal IMO.

As a seller, I tell my broker not to waste time on lowball offers. I always give them a cutoff when to engage on my behalf. As a buyer, I'm always frustrated when they don't respond to my offer 8-)
 
Just my opinion FWIW (what you paid for it :-)) but those are some pretty low offers on CCV. I offered $120/point on a 200 point contract a few months ago, and I fully expected when I made it to be posting here on the rejected offers thread, but instead, ended up on the ROFR thread. That said, you never know when someone will accept an incredibly low offer, so if you've got the time, you can always keep going for it.
Apparently they are, however I use the ROFR pricing tool from one of the members here that accounts for all the variables e.g. use year, points remaining, closing costs, etc. and comes up with a "normalized" value then compares accepted offers from the previous 90 days with a minimum of 35 data points. I target a little below the "suggested" price leaving some room for negotiating (<$5). Remember too that the 2 rejected offers were stripped and they had tapped into 2026 points.
I spot check it with accepted offers that I cull from this board and it's not far off. I'm in no hurry and this would be my third contract that will initially cover a shortage for a large family trip in 2027. I may give BWV a closer look but I already have 165 points there that I paid a lot less than what they are going for now so it's a tough pill to swallow when I expected the prices for the 2042 resorts to be more stable for a few more years. I'm also keeping LSL open for more direct points as I have used RIV and CFW and expect to again.
 
Apparently they are, however I use the ROFR pricing tool from one of the members here that accounts for all the variables e.g. use year, points remaining, closing costs, etc. and comes up with a "normalized" value then compares accepted offers from the previous 90 days with a minimum of 35 data points. I target a little below the "suggested" price leaving some room for negotiating (<$5). Remember too that the 2 rejected offers were stripped and they had tapped into 2026 points.
I spot check it with accepted offers that I cull from this board and it's not far off. I'm in no hurry and this would be my third contract that will initially cover a shortage for a large family trip in 2027. I may give BWV a closer look but I already have 165 points there that I paid a lot less than what they are going for now so it's a tough pill to swallow when I expected the prices for the 2042 resorts to be more stable for a few more years. I'm also keeping LSL open for more direct points as I have used RIV and CFW and expect to again.
Yeah, I’m guessing you mean the tool on dvcrofr.com - it is a great tool. Don’t disagree with those thoughts at all. You never know when you’ll find someone at least willing to engage on those offers and there have been some CCV that have gone for under $120, as I recall. I do think an informed CCV seller might have a little more resistance to low offers given the current round of dues increases, but it is also the lesser informed sellers most likely to engage in a low offer too. Good luck!
 
Last edited:
My opinion/experience only...

Someone would need to be very desperate and/or ill-informed to accept those CCV offers, especially since these are not stripped contracts. Average selling range is probably 133ish to 145ish. That's the range, certainly I'm sure there are outliers. But probably not below $130, $125 would be a steal IMO.

As a seller, I tell my broker not to waste time on lowball offers. I always give them a cutoff when to engage on my behalf. As a buyer, I'm always frustrated when they don't respond to my offer 8-)
This is a screen shot of recent contracts at CCV. There may be some other variables that I'm unaware but apparently there are plenty below $125.
CCV.JPG
 
Yeah, I’m guessing you mean the tool on dvcrofr.com - it is a great tool. Don’t disagree with those thoughts at all. You never know when you’ll find someone at least willing to engage on those offers and there have been some CCV that have gone for under $120, as I recall. I do think an informed CCV seller might have a little more resistance to low offers given the current round of dues increases, but an it is also the lesser informed sellers most likely to engage in a low offer too. Good luck!
Agreed, I'm also thinking that CCV will compare even more favorably once LSL opens up especially if restricted. As that gets closer, I'll have to get more aggressive if nothing takes before then.
I was awaiting a closing for a CCV contract about 4 years ago that went for ~$150 but it fell through as the seller neglected to tell the Broker that they had a tax lien and the closing would be delayed beyond the terms so I walked away.
 
This is a screen shot of recent contracts at CCV. There may be some other variables that I'm unaware but apparently there are plenty below $125.
View attachment 1029603
I would expect the lower end to be larger contracts (250+) and/or those that are stripped, but I don't have any data to provide to backup my theory.

My thoughts are based on the range for the contracts you bid on 175-200. And I should also make it clear of my buyer mentality, I am a firm believer that it only takes 1 person to accept. My seller hat doesn't have time for someone hoping that I'm that desperate. :crazy:
 
60 Points at BLT in my use year, with 125 points in 2026, listed at $150/Point - $9000
I offered $8000, and it was rejected.
Seller did counter with $8500.
I just submitted another counter-offer at $136/Point - $8160.

Hoping sellers are motivated to get contracts signed prior to Dec.31, so as to avoid dealing with the new $500 CAF. At this date, I think sellers would be just as motivated by this as potential buyers.
🤞🤞🤞
 
60 Points at BLT in my use year, with 125 points in 2026, listed at $150/Point - $9000
I offered $8000, and it was rejected.
Seller did counter with $8500.
I just submitted another counter-offer at $136/Point - $8160.

Hoping sellers are motivated to get contracts signed prior to Dec.31, so as to avoid dealing with the new $500 CAF. At this date, I think sellers would be just as motivated by this as potential buyers.
🤞🤞🤞
Merry Christmas to ME !
Seller accepted my $8160 counter.
I will post details in the ROFR thread.
Broker told me they are getting slammed with contracts right now. I guess my theory was right / sellers also motivated to sell prior to 1/1/26. Don’t think $136 for BLT is an Excellent deal but, considering it’s loaded with double points for 2026 and it gets in before the new $500 Fee, I’m feeling pretty good about it.
Funny thing is - we got our first BLT reservation coming up in February. (Got it at 7 Months out). & We planned to consider adding on there if we like our stay. The $500 CAF motivated me to jump on this one. I really hope we like it there🤣
Been wanting an MK resort to complete our portfolio.
 
60 Points at BLT in my use year, with 125 points in 2026, listed at $150/Point - $9000
I offered $8000, and it was rejected.
Seller did counter with $8500.
I just submitted another counter-offer at $136/Point - $8160.

Hoping sellers are motivated to get contracts signed prior to Dec.31, so as to avoid dealing with the new $500 CAF. At this date, I think sellers would be just as motivated by this as potential buyers.
🤞🤞🤞
we bid $7500 ...$125 per point, buyer pays closing and 2026 Dues, seller pays 2025 dues and admin fee, rejected, no counter. if you really want it, hope they accept your $8160, good luck.
....read next message, they accepted !!! congrats, you didn't mention the admin fee, so your price per point is either $139.75 or $136 :)
 
I feel for the last week of 2025, if the type of contract (resort & size) is abundant, it’s definitely buyer’s market, meaning seller might accept lower offers.
However, if the type of contract is rare (like only one available in the market), then it’s seller’s market since buyers don’t want to pay the extra fee later.
 











DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest DIS Tiktok DIS Twitter

Back
Top Bottom