New Owner - Direct vs. Resale

it's also possible that there will be additional resale restrictions on O14 contracts as well,

Like what? Take away the DVD library? They’ve pretty much taken everything they can from resale.

They could make structural changes, like a VGF surcharge or completely removing resorts, but that would be across the board, not just resale.
 
That's the point I'm making. If the point is to not get RIV because of the resale restrictions when you sell, it's also possible that there will be additional resale restrictions on O14 contracts as well, especially given that Disney HAS been introducing more and more restrictions on resale over the last few years. If Disney opted in the future to restrict all resale, you'd be in the same situation with any resort you tried to resell later on.
I'm not sure what else they can do. I guess they could make it so that resales at the original 14 could only stay at their home resort. That might cause a revolt though.
 
I'm not sure what else they can do. I guess they could make it so that resales at the original 14 could only stay at their home resort.

No. They can’t single out resale for this.

I’d argue they can’t do this at all, but they definitely can’t do it for only resale.
 
No. They can’t single out resale for this.

I’d argue they can’t do this at all, but they definitely can’t do it for only resale.

They can remove a resort from BVTC and then owners are stuck at their own resort. But, as you said, it can not be a resale vs direct restriction. The resort is either in or out.

So, say VB was taken out, all VB owners, direct included can not trade out and once removed, no one can trade in,

This is obviously a very unlikely thing to happen, other than I think near 2042 like I posted a few posts back, It could be a strategy in those last few years, especially for VB and HH which I don’t think will get redone and resold again.
 
So many hypotheticals and hand wringing about what ifs. To the original poster, don't worry about most of that noise. You are making a cash purchase and aren't (mistakenly) treating this as a real estate investment...buy the points at riviera direct and don't look back.
Even the point about "what if your heirs don't want it and now it's an albatross around their neck" doesn't hold water. If they don't want it, they set up an account with the timeshare store, have them rent out all the points all the time, and net a little profit for almost no effort for the duration of the contract.

Dont worry about what ifs (you've already made the decision to go into business with disney for 50 years so that bridge has already been crossed), and don't worry about your heirs not wanting the contracts "burden" (there is no burden...only profit or super cheap disney stays). It is all noise.
 
Even the point about "what if your heirs don't want it and now it's an albatross around their neck" doesn't hold water.

This is a real estate interest. If your estate has not planned to probate land in Florida, you aren’t ready to buy. There are a lot of reasons probating land in Florida could be a huge albatross, even if they want the timeshare.
 
Maybe, but I was pointing it out because many new people considering don’t realize that they get to trade because of it being included and that it can change...but it can’t become a resale vs direct change.

As far as 2042, I could see it for sure..20 years to go to find out! 😂😂😂

I'd guess a lot, maybe most, 2042 resort owners would be just fine with that. Suddenly it would be a 11-0 home resort booking window. They might even ask for it earlier which of course would tend to hurt the owners looking to trade in more than the other way around. :teeth:
 
I'd guess a lot, maybe most, 2042 resort owners would be just fine with that. Suddenly it would be a 11-0 home resort booking window. They might even ask for it earlier which of course would tend to hurt the owners looking to trade in more than the other way around. :teeth:

Nothing surprises me. In one way, it could be an alternative to limiting banking and borrowing for those resorts?

Only thing I just don’t see is some levels of extension like they did with OKW. I could see them increasing ROFR too.

Not to detail thread but just something to remember that no one really knows what DVD and DVCM will decide to do with the 2042 resorts come time or close to time of expiration
 
I have read all the comments on this thread. Every situation has plusses and minuses. In this situation, if you have the money to spend on RIV and don't care about possibly not being able to resell it later then absolutely do it and don't look back. We recently bought our first DVC contract at BCV. We bought resale after RIV was available. To us, the ability to stay at Riviera (and soon Reflections) didn't outweigh the restrictions DVC put on reselling Riviera.

Like most people on here, we have kids (two teenagers) and we don't have any plans to sell our contract down the road. We plan on having this contract until it expires. However, I am also smart enough to know that plans change. There is no telling what the future holds. Some things come up that are unexpected, unfortunately. We had the money to buy into Riviera direct, but knowing that it could be near impossible to sell later (if we or our children had to) made it very unappealing in our eyes.

And speaking of how uncertain the future is, we made our DVC decision based on current Disney circumstances. I have read many comments on this thread predicting how many future DVC resorts will open in the future. That is all speculation. What we know for absolute certain is that there is currently only plans for Reflections, and that reselling Riviera (or Reflections) later will be difficult to do because of the restrictions to prospective buyers. Speculating on what DVC may or may not do in the future is folly. And, like many others on this site, we don't know for certain what our kids will want to do. Gifting a timeshare to others can actually be a burden for them, given the costs associated with it. That's why BCV (as well as the other "original" resorts), to us, had the perfect amount of time left of those contracts. We will have many, many years of great memories with this contract and it will carry our kids well into adulthood. Then if they want to continue DVC via a new contract they can choose to do so. And if they don't want the burden of a timeshare, they won't be obligated to carry on the contract we bought.

We aren't Riviera "poo-pooers" by any means. Like I said to start this comment: if you have the money and don't care about possibly taking a big loss down the road then who cares? If there were guarantees of, say, 6-7 new DisneyWorld DVC resorts to open in the next 10 years then we probably would have bought into Riviera. But as we all saw in 2020, there are no guarantees. I, personally, only go by what I know when weighing decisions. No matter what decision anyone makes regarding their home resort (or buying direct vs resale), there will be years of happiness experienced either way. Good luck!!
 
I have read all the comments on this thread. Every situation has plusses and minuses. In this situation, if you have the money to spend on RIV and don't care about possibly not being able to resell it later then absolutely do it and don't look back.

Don't forget if they want to stay there the majority of the time. More and more we see home resort becoming important especially if the member want to stay in studios.
 

















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