NEW GREAT SWAP/SMILEY DEBATE(former "Pop Will .... Fridges For Swap?" thread)

[lisadr]

OK folks if she gets her way... Somebody open a new thread.
This is one of the reasons I object to allowing threads to be closed. This thread has not been a bashing negative thread, but because the OP doesn't LIKE the posts then she wants it closed?

There is NOTHING on this thread that is bad... You want bad start a thread on ANY of the following

1. Pool hopping
2. "My child is four but small, do I HAVE to buy him a ticket?"
3. "Can I put six people in my room for four at Pop?"
4. How long are refillable mugs good for?
5. Can I stay after the MK closes and just crash the MNSHHP (Or Christmas Party or Pirates and Pricesses?)


Lisa, when you start a thread you don't have to moderate it? I often just walk away from threads... it's not a personal thing, I don't know 99.9% of the people on the DIS... So I don't always agree with them? I am not inviting them to my house!!! I am just posting messages!

Dear CarolA,

I am walking away. How about this? I will change the name and and if the MOD sees fit to keep it open-then so be it. I don't want to close something so many people like. It's no biggie. Changing the name right now.......

 

[thelionqueen]

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Since you asked - yes, their medical equipment IS more important than your pins. Losing your pins won't kill you, and having them misplaced won't require a trip to the emergency room.

YES if they were lost it WOULD require a hospital room visit; obviously you don't know how much I've spent on our pins

Seriously though, since you brought it up, I wouldn't let anyone transfer my pins from resort to resort for me, as they are only safe when I am transporting them.

And, since you brought it up, the point that was being made, is that, no matter what the item is EVERY ITEM needs to be safeguarded, protected and held for every guest. An no other item (that is in luggage services) is more or less important that another.

If I had medically lifesaving equipment that I needed to live, you can be darn sure it wouldn't be in luggage services.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I think its wonderful that everyone is agreeing to disagree and respecting each other's viewpoints.

That's it! I was drawing a blank on the word 'respectful'! Thanks, msmayor!

And I disagree there is any debate going on in this thread. We're having a discussion. It's not even heated, the way some can get when participants don't agree. This is about the most respectful thread I've ever read with varying opinions!

 

[thelionqueen]

Then perhaps Katie we can refrain from using icons such as this

 

[kaytieeldr]

Yep - as soon as people stop thinking pins are more valuable than life

 

[maxiesmom]

Then perhaps Katie we can refrain from using icons such as this

Wow, what is the deal with censorship on this thread? First we are only supposed to post if we fit a certain criteria, and now we have to refrain from using certain smilies? Did everyone take their bossy pill today? Can't we all just agree that we have different viewpoints, and not try to tell each other what we can and can't post?

The mods here do a pretty darn good job. Relax and let them do it.

 

[CarolA]

YES if they were lost it WOULD require a hospital room visit; obviously you don't know how much I've spent on our pins

Seriously though, since you brought it up, I wouldn't let anyone transfer my pins from resort to resort for me, as they are only safe when I am transporting them.

And, since you brought it up, the point that was being made, is that, no matter what the item is EVERY ITEM needs to be safeguarded, protected and held for every guest. An no other item (that is in luggage services) is more or less important that another.

If I had medically lifesaving equipment that I needed to live, you can be darn sure it wouldn't be in luggage services.

Well that's an theory. I guess guests should just hang around the lobby all day waiting on a room rather then give their equipment to luggage services because the storeage space is full of refrigerators...

Lots of this type of equipment is too big to go to the parks with you. I think it's not irresponsible to give it to Disney to hold. But you are welcome to spend a day of your vacation babysitting your pins and equipment! Me I would give my equipment to luggage services. (I got over pins a long time ago. I now just give them away to get rid of them!)

I also think it's probably LESS likely to be "lost" then a fridge. Let's say I give it to them a 9 am and pick it up at 4. It's probably still near the "front" of the storeage.

If I give you my fridge on 10/1 and no one picks it up until 10/31 it's probably been moved 20 times as the "reorganize" etc. And the truth is that they probably think "it's lost why bother worrying about it" I mean it's been sitting there forever! (Granted most swaps only leave things a day or two, but I did do some looking and there are some LONG delays)

 

[CarolA]

Wow, what is the deal with censorship on this thread? First we are only supposed to post if we fit a certain criteria, and now we have to refrain from using certain smilies? Did everyone take their bossy pill today? Can't we all just agree that we have different viewpoints, and not try to tell each other what we can and can't post?

The mods here do a pretty darn good job. Relax and let them do it.

Wheres the applause little guy!

Good post.

 

[disneychrista]

The new title is a little misleading, anyone want to be the one to TURN this into a debate?

 

[thelionqueen]

It seems as if ideas and words are being lost and/or mixed up. To clarify my position, Katie stated that "This is about the most respectful thread I've ever read with varying opinions." Respectful, in my book, is not rolling your eyes over another posters comments, it has nothing to do with sensorship.

Secondly, I stated previously (way previously) that I had a huge box that INCLUDED my pins SHIPPED to the resort for them to hold until my arrival. When I get there, I take my box.

Thirdly, when an example is given by way of a comparison, it in no way means that I think material items are more important for life, for heavens sake. People, pay attention. When you see a ROFL, that means its a joke!

Let's all try to keep a sense of humor.

 

[kaytieeldr]

It seems as if ideas and words are being lost and/or mixed up. To clarify my position, Katie stated that "This is about the most respectful thread I've ever read with varying opinions." Respectful, in my book, is not rolling your eyes over another posters comments, it has nothing to do with sensorship.

PLEASE recheck that smiley. It is "SAD2", shaking his head and looking disappointed, aka, well, sad. Yeah, I just double-checked myself, and sure enough, I originally and again here post

This and this and are eye-rolling smilies.

I do not now and never did think your comments were deserving of rolled eyes. I did, and do, feel your statement, your comparison, is sad. And so the smiley I chose and which you quoted, signifies that.

 

[thelionqueen]

PLEASE recheck that smiley. It is "SAD2", shaking his head and looking disappointed, aka, well, sad. Yeah, I just double-checked myself, and sure enough, I originally and again here post

This and this and are eye-rolling smilies.

I do not now and never did think your comments were deserving of rolled eyes. I did, and do, feel your statement, your comparison, is sad. And so the smiley I chose and which you quoted, signifies that.

Wow, thanks for the clarification I now know my smilie designations. I will do my best to read what each smilie means rather than just throw a dangerous one out again. Is this one lauging my *** off?? Just making sure.

Just for the future flamers, I'm kidding, its a joke. I would use a smilie but don't want to be attacked...hehe

 

[kadesha]

This has turned ridiculious!

 

[aprilgail2]

The new title is a little misleading, anyone want to be the one to TURN this into a debate?

I think its funny that the OP had a temper tantrum stomped her feet, took her ball and went home when she couldn't get people to do or act like she wanted to and then she turns around and to make it even more childish she changes the title of the thread

 

[BostonRob]

PLEASE recheck that smiley. It is "SAD2", shaking his head and looking disappointed, aka, well, sad. Yeah, I just double-checked myself, and sure enough, I originally and again here post

This and this and are eye-rolling smilies.

I do not now and never did think your comments were deserving of rolled eyes. I did, and do, feel your statement, your comparison, is sad. And so the smiley I chose and which you quoted, signifies that.

For whatever its worth, I find a lot of smileys offensive. The disbards have rules that I try to follow. No personal attack, no sarcasm, stuff like that. It seems to me that a lot of people use smiley's to get around those rule - the rolliing the eyes smiley, the rolling on the floor laughing smileys, the sad shaking the head smiley - when people respond to me with those smileys, I often feel attacked. Maybe its just me, but I would think that if I feel that way, other people do too.

Here is an example:

Are the PPs who so strongly pointed out that this is a public forum and people were allowed to express their opinions-what ever they were-actually chiding ParkersMomma for her word choice? Hmmmm I guess it's only OK when it's their opinion

Interesting

Just my two cents.

 

[bavaria]

This and this and are eye-rolling smilies.

well, to be fair, this may be called 'rolleyes1' but it really is 'innocent'

HOWEVER

to get back to the topic of fridges and storage and what may happen in future and constructive advice, etc....

Disney has never been great at package handling. I said that I travel about 300 days a year; I ship packages worldwide to myself every week or two and do most of my shopping online. I am the queen of boxes and deliveries.

I have the worst track record with Disney; they have lost at least temporarily or turned away at least 60 percent of my deliveries, I would estimate (the majority of those are for work, and many were at the convention resorts, which actually have a package handling department) The worst I recall was when they shipped a box of my dirty laundry (which housekeeping had accidentally removed from my room) and it took two months to reach me back at WDW as they had mishandled it. Two month old dirty laundry does not smell nice!

My suggestion is to always add the day of arrival AND confirmation number to any label for any item being held in bell storage. This really helps them to trace who the package is for, and to determine if the package is 'left' ie if the guest has come and gone.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Wow, thanks for the clarification I now know my smilie designations. I will do my best to read what each smilie means rather than just throw a dangerous one out again.

Doesn't sarcasm refute the previous respectful tone of this thread? I was accused of rolling my eyes at an earlier statement; I did not (anyone doubting this statement can go back and see that the post in which I originally used the "sad2" smiley has not been edited), and I chose to clarify the emoticon I used.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Wow, thanks for the clarification I now know my smilie designations. I will do my best to read what each smilie means rather than just throw a dangerous one out again.

I can see your point - but in the post in question, I really WAS sad that anybody would feel that Disney pins are more important than medical equipment. Rather than try to express my severe disappointment at that time, and risk any type of DIS reprimand, I chose to use an emoticon provided by (and so I would think acceptable to) the DIS Administrators.

 

[disneymom3]

Hmm..... I went with the Marriott. Disney wasn't providing the value, service etc. However, I am not in the majority on here, they would have gone Pop because "it's Disney and it's got themeing etc" I rent a car either way so transports not really an issue.

As long as they keep the rooms full, they aren't adding things! They don't need to. Hotels add things to get guests to come, not because they love us! (They don't, they love our money!)

This is what baffles me when people gripe about Disney prices. Especially the whole "My family of 5 has to stay in a Deluxe thing" before the Value suites were an option. I have a family of 5. I very happily stay offsite in a two bedroom condo, with nice grounds, a living room and a REAL refridgerator. If you don't like the price for the amenties, vote with your wallet and stay somewhere else! It really is not that hard to drive to the parks folks!

Wow, what is the deal with censorship on this thread? First we are only supposed to post if we fit a certain criteria, and now we have to refrain from using certain smilies? Did everyone take their bossy pill today? Can't we all just agree that we have different viewpoints, and not try to tell each other what we can and can't post?

The mods here do a pretty darn good job. Relax and let them do it.

Now that is a funny statement/question. You need that as a tag. I might have to start using it on my kids.

Oh and the new title did work--piqued my interest anyway.

 

[thelionqueen]

Doesn't sarcasm refute the previous respectful tone of this thread? I was accused of rolling my eyes at an earlier statement; I did not (anyone doubting this statement can go back and see that the post in which I originally used the "sad2" smiley has not been edited), and I chose to clarify the emoticon I used.

To try to put this as simply as I possibly can, it was to be humorous as stated several posts before and now. I am not being sarcastic, it really is to be laughable. OK, I'm done clarifying
For anyone who may still be even remotely interested (I know I'm not) the comments I posted were done in humor, not to inflict pain or 10 replies to an OT post