Need your thoughts, teacher related UPDATE

[Mellie2162]

Here's the story:

Today DD15 came home today upset. Apparently, according to her, while in English today the girl sitting next to her told the teacher's assistant Mrs. E, that she forgot to bring in her homework and would do it now if she could. Mrs. E, said to her "oh you dont have time for that, here take C's (my dd) homework and just copy it. This was done while teacher was out of class. Mrs. E did not ask dd, just took it from her.

Upon teacher's return she found said girl copying off DD's paper, went over to them and said out loud you two are cheaters. Snatched the papers away and said to the whole class "you're both getting a 0 for being cheaters." Mrs. E then went to teacher's desk and spoke to her to which teacher loudly replied "I don't want to hear it, they cheated, they are getting a 0."

Mrs. E then comes back to my dd and says it's ok, I will take care of this. Don't say anything to her. I will get your grade changed and if she won't do it I will go in and do it myself.

I checked her grades online and apparently she got a 50 for her homework, she should have received a 100 as they went over the answers in class and she got them all right, teacher made a point of saying that. So I e-mailed teacher and asked her to contact me by phone to discuss this, no call yet. I don't think my kid is at fault here, am I wrong? Should I ask teacher to apologize to my kid for calling her a cheater in front of the class and embarrassing her? Im really ticked because she has carried an A in English and this dropped her to a B.

 

[Magic Mom]

Here's the story:

Today DD15 came home today upset. Apparently, according to her, while in English today the girl sitting next to her told the teacher's assistant Mrs. E, that she forgot to bring in her homework and would do it now if she could. Mrs. E, said to her "oh you dont have time for that, here take C's (my dd) homework and just copy it. This was done while teacher was out of class. Mrs. E did not ask dd, just took it from her.

Upon teacher's return she found said girl copying off DD's paper, went over to them and said out loud you two are cheaters. Snatched the papers away and said to the whole class "you're both getting a 0 for being cheaters." Mrs. E then went to teacher's desk and spoke to her to which teacher loudly replied "I don't want to hear it, they cheated, they are getting a 0."

Mrs. E then comes back to my dd and says it's ok, I will take care of this. Don't say anything to her. I will get your grade changed and if she won't do it I will go in and do it myself.

I checked her grades online and apparently she got a 50 for her homework, she should have received a 100 as they went over the answers in class and she got them all right, teacher made a point of saying that. So I e-mailed teacher and asked her to contact me by phone to discuss this, no call yet. I don't think my kid is at fault here, am I wrong? Should I ask teacher to apologize to my kid for calling her a cheater in front of the class and embarrassing her? Im really ticked because she has carried an A in English and this dropped her to a B.

Before you demand an apology, I would find out the other side of the story. They might not match up completely.

 

[Tinijocaro]

yes, find out the other side and then, if it lines up, let her know that you expect an apology. I am a teacher.

 

[golfgal]

I would make sure you get BOTH sides of this story before you say anything to the teacher. I certainly HOPE your school doesn't employ aids that encourage cheering and IF this is truly what happened, obviously something needs to be done about the aid. Not that your daughter is lying, the story is somewhat far fetched, honestly.

 

[taylor3297]

Give the teacher a day or two to call back. If she does not call back, call again. When you do speak to her tell her that you are concerned with an incident your child told you about that happened in class. Then give the teacher an opportunity to respond. Also, you might want to speak with the teaching assistant also since from what your child has told you, the assistant has helped to create the situation.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

I once had a teacher give me a 0 because I checked my own test in class. It was my first week at a new school and the other kids were playing a joke on me - wouldn't exchange papers with me to check the test in class. I wouldn't accept the grade and had to be taken to the principle's office. I refused to go back to my desk until I was taken to the principle by the teacher. I got my 100 (the score that I earned) and then got my parents to move me to a different teacher's classroom.

Any teacher that will not allow a student to talk in explanation of their actions should be removed from the classroom. You cannot treat your students like they are animals and get away with it...

 

[Mellie2162]

I would make sure you get BOTH sides of this story before you say anything to the teacher. I certainly HOPE your school doesn't employ aids that encourage cheering and IF this is truly what happened, obviously something needs to be done about the aid. Not that your daughter is lying, the story is somewhat far fetched, honestly.

I agree that it's far fetched, however, I believe DD. She usually is very honest and in the past has had issues with not wanting friends to cheat off her, so I really don't think she just let the girl do it. I just cant believe the aid would encourage this kind of behavior. I do intend to get the teacher's side which is why I asked her to call me and discuss it. I just hate that this has happened because now im afraid that even if she does give her the earned grade and apologize there will be animosity there towards my dd.

 

[agnes!]

You need to have a sit-down with Mrs. E., if the events happened the way your DD said they did. It sounds like the assistant is trying to cover her own butt. AND she is probably NOT authorized to go in and CHANGE students' grades on her own say-so.

THIS IS A MESS, get it fixed ASAP, find out what the story is according to the teacher and according to the assistant. I am SERIOUS, the other girl needs to have her grade protected too, she was following the assistant's directions...maybe not the smartest thing to do in hindsight, but is a student even allowed to refuse the adult-in-charge's directions during class?

agnes!

 

[a1tinkfans]

yes, find out the other side and then, if it lines up, let her know that you expect an apology. I am a teacher.

 

[curious3069]

You need to have a sit-down with Mrs. E., if the events happened the way your DD said they did. It sounds like the assistant is trying to cover her own butt. AND she is probably NOT authorized to go in and CHANGE students' grades on her own say-so.

THIS IS A MESS, get it fixed ASAP, find out what the story is according to the teacher and according to the assistant. I am SERIOUS, the other girl needs to have her grade protected too, she was following the assistant's directions...maybe not the smartest thing to do in hindsight, but is a student even allowed to refuse the adult-in-charge's directions during class?

agnes!

All the way this! This assistant is putting students into a baaad position..the school should definitely know about it.

 

[Mrs.Reese]

I work with two teacher aides. It sounds as though this one completely overstepped her authority. You need to speak with the teacher about this. There is a hierarchy in schools. Teachers run the classroom not the aide. If this is the whole story, then the aide made a HUGE mistake. The teacher needs to know this. I have worked with many an aide who think that they know more than the teacher and that they can do whatever they want until they get caught.

 

[Mellie2162]

Teacher called and basically said she came into the class and started collecting homework when she found the girl had my dd's paper. She said she did call them cheaters and said they were getting a 0. She did say it was later explained to her what happened by the aide. She was very irritated and said that the aide and the kids all know her policy on cheating and that she would be handling the situation. She said she could not hold my dd responsible as she was told to do this by an authority.

Today she apologized to my daughter for calling her a cheater and said she will be correcting her grade to reflect what she actually got.

 

[DisneyBamaFan]

Teacher called and basically said she came into the class and started collecting homework when she found the girl had my dd's paper. She said she did call them cheaters and said they were getting a 0. She did say it was later explained to her what happened by the aide. She was very irritated and said that the aide and the kids all know her policy on cheating and that she would be handling the situation. She said she could not hold my dd responsible as she was told to do this by an authority.

Today she apologized to my daughter for calling her a cheater and said she will be correcting her grade to reflect what she actually got.

Glad to hear that she will be apologizing to your daughter...

 

[KPeveler]

Wow, i hope that teacher's aide gets fired!! Or moved to a classroom where she has less influence. All she was doing was telling students it is ok to cheat as long as no one catches them (i.e. the teacher was not in the room). ug! no wonder things are bad in schools today!

 

[laurie31]

Wow, this is a great update!! I'm so happy the teacher found out the truth, that your DD will be getting an apology, and the aide will be getting what she has coming as well.

What's sad is the other girl was WILLING to do the homework (she didn't intend to cheat either!); it was the aide who said not to bother, just cheat.

 

[Mellie2162]

Thanks. I know Im so irritated that the aide caused all this frustration. My dd really didnt want us to do anything, just drop it and I said no way in heck. Its so not fair to her when she spent her time doing her homework to just have someone be able to take it and copy it. Im so glad the teacher came through on this though.

 

[luvmy3]

Wow, this is a great update!! I'm so happy the teacher found out the truth, that your DD will be getting an apology, and the aide will be getting what she has coming as well.

What's sad is the other girl was WILLING to do the homework (she didn't intend to cheat either!); it was the aide who said not to bother, just cheat.

I was thinking the very same thing. This situation is wrong on so many levels, that aide should be dismissed.

 

[okeydokey]

Teacher called and basically said she came into the class and started collecting homework when she found the girl had my dd's paper. She said she did call them cheaters and said they were getting a 0. She did say it was later explained to her what happened by the aide. She was very irritated and said that the aide and the kids all know her policy on cheating and that she would be handling the situation. She said she could not hold my dd responsible as she was told to do this by an authority.

Today she apologized to my daughter for calling her a cheater and said she will be correcting her grade to reflect what she actually got.

That's great that she handled it appropriately but i think the aide is the one who owes the apology.

 

[Mellie2162]

That's great that she handled it appropriately but i think the aide is the one who owes the apology.

She did apologize. She did it that day and the next day as well.

 

[C.Ann]

Glad it all worked out well, but I have to say - I would not want this "aide" in my DD's classroom.. Shame on her!